i hate w10.

Any time you buy Windows 7 at 1/4 of the normal cost, you can pretty much figure it is a counterfeit.
People have been selling counterfeit Windows on eBay for years. When they are kicked off eBay they just start another account and start selling again.

Jack
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Any time you buy Windows 7 at 1/4 of the normal cost, you can pretty much figure it is a counterfeit.
People have been selling counterfeit Windows on eBay for years. When they are kicked off eBay they just start another account and start selling again.

Jack
EXCEPT as I already stated... I have clearly have LEGIT CDs(32bit and 64bit) and a COA Sticker so I don't know how they could still be "counterfeit" ..

for the first one that had already been used too many times.. ie I had spoken to a MS rep that time the key was legit but already used so I got a dud... :cry::mad:

but for the "[FONT=&quot]COA SLP product key[/FONT][FONT=&quot]" I [/FONT][FONT=&quot]received as the replacement key... not as legal as should be.. but a LEGIT key that worked... :(:sarc::confused:

as for the price... its possible the seller didn't know how much to sell them for and settled on [/FONT]$73.99
I am more concerned to pay a very high price like around $300 and get ripped off... :mad::cry: then a mid ranged price I did pay...

as for the COA Sticker I payed for... I don't have a camera or smart phone so I cannot do a photo for you to see...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    [Self-built](custom-build)(June 2020)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME X570-PRO
    Memory
    32GB, 2x G.Skill 16GB (PC3200)(DDR4-2137)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB XC3 model by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" DELL Gaming Monitor - G2422HS - DisplayPort used
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p at 165Hz (16:9 Aspect Ratio)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 870 EVO (SSD)

    NVMe 1TB
    -- OS(Win10 Pro x64),
    -- programs,
    -- programming(MS Visual Studios 2022 Community Ed.),
    -- music

    NV
    PSU
    Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER DPS G RGB Titanium Certified 1250Watt
    Case
    Corsair Graphite Series 780T Full Tower PC Case
    Cooling
    AMD Wraith cooler (stock) & 3x Corsair case fans
    Keyboard
    Alienware Low Profile RGB Mechanical USB Gaming Keyboard - A
    Mouse
    Redragon M602 RGB Wired USB Gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps Download, 350Mbps Upload
    Antivirus
    n/a aka "ABOVE TOP SECRET!" lol ;)
    Browser
    Firefox & Google Chrome
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition, model 5515
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H
    Motherboard
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5800H integrated AMD Radeon Graphics and Nvidia GeForce 3060 6GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3254 with Nahimic 3D Audio for Gamers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    DELL power brick.
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    laptop cooling
    Keyboard
    built-in
    Mouse
    Microsoft basic optical scroll mouse
    Internet Speed
    1000Mbps download, 20Mbps upload
    Browser
    Firefox & Waterfox Classic
Any time you buy Windows 7 at 1/4 of the normal cost, you can pretty much figure it is a counterfeit.
People have been selling counterfeit Windows on eBay for years. When they are kicked off eBay they just start another account and start selling again.

Jack

I've received two Windows 8 Pro sealed packages with both x64 and x86 media, and I've paid $60 for the first and later, $40 for the second copy. Both Legit and I've only activated the first. So it is possible to get.

To me (even though it is the retail cost), paying over $100.00 for a copy of Windows in horrendous.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP xw8600 Workstation
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Two Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
Motherboard
Proprietary
Memory
16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
Screen Resolution
1600x1200
Hard Drives
Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
PSU
Proprietary
Case
HP xw8600 Workstation Case
Cooling
Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
Keyboard
PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft USB Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
7 mbps
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Firefox ESR 102
Other Info
Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
I'm glad to be here, and will likely be back to Windows 7 Pro this weekend. It's not so much that I hate Win 10, as it is the lack of control I have over it. I'm a Win 7 gal, and frankly, I'm still in search of the newest, least intrusive OS, fully aware those days are gone.

I'm on 10 now, but only because I sent my laptop in for repairs (a new HD), and I think the tech thought he was doing me a favor by installing it, so I'm checking it out (I've since learned that any Win 8 install automatically gets updated when using Asurion warranty services). If I can't get Win 10 tricked up with the same freedom and ease as my husband experiences with his Ducati 750, I will be removing it this weekend.
Sure, it's pretty, but I have major issues with control, and if I pay for something - &*!%@#@ - I want it to do what I want it to do.There was a time when purchasing a product, you were asked if you wanted a particular feature. If you wanted it, you clicked or pressed something, giving permission. NOW, you have to commit to spending a month minimum finding and turning stuff off, and wondering whether what you press or click on actually does the opposite! (Yes, Margaret, there is no Santa Claus, and Microsoft does set up certain buttons/controls that totally ignore your permissions).
I just don't get how people are okay with the level of intrusiveness we've allowed these "Silicon Slut Monsters" to put on consumers, and what makes me really ill, is every company and institution has followed suit, because we've helped them prove time and time again, that we'll take anything if it's shoved down our throats often enough, long enough and with the impression of it being "free."

I've been rolling my eyes at Microsoft's messages that tell you what you stand to lose access to, if you "turn off, uninstall or delete" any app. A month ago, my friend was in a state of panic over whether to uninstall something that would limit her use of Skype. I asked her if she had Skype before Win 10, why would she now resign her account to be controlled by Win 10? She thought about it, uninstalled the app, and guess what? No flies are swarming around her house, there's no blood running out of her bathroom sink, and no one is spitting green goo across the room (Yes, Margaret, the demon in the film "The Exorcist" is a petulant child compared to the "Legion" of apps taunting me in Win 10).

I've been playing with Win 10 for two days now, and I'm already tired of it. To date, here's what I need to remove before deciding whether to keep it or not:
CORTANA
EDGE
DRMs (BAKED IN, ITUNE, AMAZON, ETC.)
INVOLUNTARY UPGRADES/UPDATES
WINDOWS STORE (It's where their updates come from,now that most of us have learned how to turn it off)
ANY AND ALL APPS THAT CANNOT BE REMOVED(I don't own or use an "Xbox," "Groove," and I don't play Microsoft's games. This means that there is no moat between the new laptop owner and the third-party seller partnering with Microsoft).

I don't know a lot about the inner workings of computers, but I do know when I'm being duped and dumped on by these guys, and I resent it almost as much as the people who love saying things like, "It's here, get used to it" "What's the big deal? Don't use it!" "I use it all the time, and it's makes things so much easier." Oh brother.

All I want is to get what I pay for, and if I have to take some 'bloat' to get it, fine, but once I purchase and take it home, I want to be able to take it off without worrying about sneaky attachments set to turn my laptop to a brick the moment I question its importance. So, I'm here to learn what exactly can or can't be down with this OS, because I've been on for two days now, and I'm already sick of it.
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Windows 7 Pro and Outlook 2010 Pro - Two programs I own that Microsoft will NEVER stop me from using.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion
OS
Windows 10 Home
I've received two Windows 8 Pro sealed packages with both x64 and x86 media, and I've paid $60 for the first and later, $40 for the second copy. Both Legit and I've only activated the first. So it is possible to get.

To me (even though it is the retail cost), paying over $100.00 for a copy of Windows in horrendous.

Jody, although windows 8 is not supported, Windows 8.1 is still fully supported, so there's no retro effect on prices ( it's now rare so let's charge more ;) ).

There is the other unfortunate factor with windows 8 that also has an effect on prices, Very few people got on with it when it was released and most only changed when it was re-launched as 8.1

I understand that you are "stuck" where you are due to hardware issues but 8, and even 8.1 never had the appeal that Win7 had / has
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Hey ItAintBroke, nice first post :D ooh that passion...

I took one look at Win10 one time while installing a favored game( Unreal Tournament 2004) on his new PC bought from BestBuy.. for a friend and was like ICK... Among those, crappy UI, and the loss of time worn features I had come to rely on and the location of said features... to the fat that said game would not fully load... do to Win10 being NEW with lack of support for a lot of older programming.. like DirectDraw which as I understand it is mostly no longer supported..


I will never use Win10, M$ could NOT pay me to UPGRADE TO IT! lol :p
so its Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 F.O.R.E.V.E.R.! lol :D

I understand that you are "stuck" where you are due to hardware issues but 8, and even 8.1 never had the appeal that Win7 had / has
yes appeal, M$ got something right with Win7
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    [Self-built](custom-build)(June 2020)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME X570-PRO
    Memory
    32GB, 2x G.Skill 16GB (PC3200)(DDR4-2137)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB XC3 model by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" DELL Gaming Monitor - G2422HS - DisplayPort used
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p at 165Hz (16:9 Aspect Ratio)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 870 EVO (SSD)

    NVMe 1TB
    -- OS(Win10 Pro x64),
    -- programs,
    -- programming(MS Visual Studios 2022 Community Ed.),
    -- music

    NV
    PSU
    Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER DPS G RGB Titanium Certified 1250Watt
    Case
    Corsair Graphite Series 780T Full Tower PC Case
    Cooling
    AMD Wraith cooler (stock) & 3x Corsair case fans
    Keyboard
    Alienware Low Profile RGB Mechanical USB Gaming Keyboard - A
    Mouse
    Redragon M602 RGB Wired USB Gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps Download, 350Mbps Upload
    Antivirus
    n/a aka "ABOVE TOP SECRET!" lol ;)
    Browser
    Firefox & Google Chrome
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition, model 5515
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H
    Motherboard
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5800H integrated AMD Radeon Graphics and Nvidia GeForce 3060 6GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3254 with Nahimic 3D Audio for Gamers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    DELL power brick.
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    laptop cooling
    Keyboard
    built-in
    Mouse
    Microsoft basic optical scroll mouse
    Internet Speed
    1000Mbps download, 20Mbps upload
    Browser
    Firefox & Waterfox Classic
Haven't used it for years, moved on :p
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Thanks Melchior! Consumer rights have been chipped away at an alarming speed since Steve Jobs showed the world that the consumer will take whatever's given to them. It's the nature of business, but now computer manufacturers have taken the idea of "supply and demand" to mean, "THEY" supply to the consumer what they deem necessary, and "THEY" demand we thank them for it. It's a tired topic, but I guess I come from a generation that's been watching this for a long time, and honestly, I'm not excited about the future.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion
OS
Windows 10 Home

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    [Self-built](custom-build)(June 2020)
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro (x64)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME X570-PRO
    Memory
    32GB, 2x G.Skill 16GB (PC3200)(DDR4-2137)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB XC3 model by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" DELL Gaming Monitor - G2422HS - DisplayPort used
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p at 165Hz (16:9 Aspect Ratio)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 980 Pro (NVMe)(SSD)
    2TB Samsung 870 EVO (SSD)

    NVMe 1TB
    -- OS(Win10 Pro x64),
    -- programs,
    -- programming(MS Visual Studios 2022 Community Ed.),
    -- music

    NV
    PSU
    Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER DPS G RGB Titanium Certified 1250Watt
    Case
    Corsair Graphite Series 780T Full Tower PC Case
    Cooling
    AMD Wraith cooler (stock) & 3x Corsair case fans
    Keyboard
    Alienware Low Profile RGB Mechanical USB Gaming Keyboard - A
    Mouse
    Redragon M602 RGB Wired USB Gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    2100Mbps Download, 350Mbps Upload
    Antivirus
    n/a aka "ABOVE TOP SECRET!" lol ;)
    Browser
    Firefox & Google Chrome
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition, model 5515
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H
    Motherboard
    DELL G15 Ryzen edition
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5800H integrated AMD Radeon Graphics and Nvidia GeForce 3060 6GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3254 with Nahimic 3D Audio for Gamers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    500GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    DELL power brick.
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    laptop cooling
    Keyboard
    built-in
    Mouse
    Microsoft basic optical scroll mouse
    Internet Speed
    1000Mbps download, 20Mbps upload
    Browser
    Firefox & Waterfox Classic
Hi,
Yep I doubt 8 or 8.1 ever saw 10% market share lol :)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Windows 1 Forever
Windows 2 Forever
Windows 3 Forever
Windows 3.1 Forever

I've seen this included in a couple of posts in this thread, and I must point out it is not historically accurate. For those of us building and running PCs in the '89 - '90s timeframe it was:


  • DOS 3.3 (33Meg Partition Size Limit, 1M of RAM was more than you would ever use and cost $400)
  • DOS 4.1 (Yay! I can use the whole 120Meg drive in a single-partition)
  • Windows 286
  • Windows 386
  • Windows 3.0 (Yes with Trumpet Winsock)
  • Windows 3.1 (Yes, still installed on 1.44M floppies, Word 1.0f came out here)
  • ...
There may have been something codenamed Windows1 or Windows2, but you didn't see those in boxes.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP 8760w
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
i7-2620m
Memory
8G
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Quadro 3000M
Hard Drives
Toshiba 128G SSD, HGST 1T
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE/Firefor 45.9esr
How strange that you use old calculator like the one in Windows 7 as an example. So this Windows 7 Calculator is "eye candy" to you:

View attachment 398955

... and this, Windows 10 Calculator is "generic vanilla - yuk":

View attachment 398956
(Screenshot shows native Windows 10 Calculator in build 16199.)

I have to say I totally disagree!

Kari

It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point (I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.

I can use either, one sits nicely in the corner and doesn't obscure what I need it for, the other takes up 25% of my screen forcing me to alt-tab back-and-forth to do the same thing. That goes directly to 'usability' and a lack of 'human-factors' understanding from an efficiency standpoint. That is what I hope is addressed in the future after this experiment in cross-platform UI design settles down. (and maybe thow some eye-candy for the window decore :p)
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP 8760w
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
i7-2620m
Memory
8G
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Quadro 3000M
Hard Drives
Toshiba 128G SSD, HGST 1T
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE/Firefor 45.9esr
Hi,
I use this calculator works great :)
Code:
http://www.moffsoft.com/downloads.htm
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 6100
Motherboard
Asus H110M-D
Memory
4GB (2x) @2133MHz DDR4 Dual Channel Ram
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 530
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2312HM
Screen Resolution
Full HD 1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz
PSU
Thermaltake Litepower 550w
Case
AVF Mid tower
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech
Antivirus
Malwarebytes 4.0
Browser
Firefox 64bit
Other Info
An old Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop ;OS Windows Vista Home Basic 32bit ; CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5250 @1.5GHz ;Memory 2GB (2 x 1048MB) 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM ;Graphics Card Intel Integrated Graphics media Accelerator X3100 ;Sound Card Integrated Stereo Sound ;Monitor(s) Displays 14.1 Widescreen WXGA Display with TrueLife ;Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 ;Hard Drives 160GB Sata Hard Drive
It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point.

You specifically used Calculator as an example of vanilla "yuk" looks:

But this is about the looks. Win10 is fine if your the type that doesn't mind every application looking like a generic vanilla web-page -- but yuk. just compare it calculator to previous releases is about as good an example as any. Don't get me wrong, I don't want form over function, but when we have had stunning form for over a decade in desktop look, Win10 is somewhat of a let down and feels like a big step backwards in user-interface design.


When I proved you wrong, you are trying with this one:

(I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.


That went wrong, too! If you want me to use Programmer mode Calculator as an example, here it is:

2017-05-25_19h45_17.jpg

Windows 7 Programmer Calculator on left, minimum size 164,124 pixels (423 * 388). Windows 10 Programmer Calculator on right, 160,000 pixels used (320 * 500). You lost again :)

BTW, as W10 Calculator in programmer mode is almost 25% narrower than W7 one, it sits much nicer on corner of small displays. With less "screen real-estate" used.

Trying to save you from one more embarrassing argument: please do not post now about how you meant unit conversion mode instead of programmer mode as in that mode the W7 Calculator loses even more:

2017-05-25_19h46_22.jpg

Kari
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
As they used to say on TV

Busted
 

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System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Tried Win 10 For One Week, Went Back to Win 7

I couldn't do it. It just pissed me off too much having Win 10 in my home, on my computer. I spent a whole week trying to modify the software to minimum invasiveness, but for every two things I uninstalled, there ten files that required even more research before determining its true function. I'm telling you, I've never seen so much bloat within a Windows program, not to mention the arrogance in some of the names they've used, reminding the user that they had no control over their intrusiveness.

Well, yesterday, while bingeing the 7th season of "The Walking Dead" I installed a home version of Win 7 (my version of Drano), went for a clean install, then upgraded to Win 7 Pro, and life has been good ever since. No, I don't trust Win10 recovery/reinstall settings. If they have become so bold as to hide their intrusiveness in plain sight, who knows what could be left behind when installed using their methods? It's insane. I will admit I have a much better handle on Microsoft's intrusion with Win7, but it does require staying on top of it. Saturdays are my days to do that.

I'm staying with Win7, because I am convinced there are too many people who are pushing back, and at some point Microsoft will have to make some choices, and so will the consumer. In the meantime, I don't my version of Windows on the internet. I know it's crazy, but I need to protect my content, and right now, their "Trusted Installer" seems to be working more for them and less for me.

It'd be real interesting to know how many of Microsoft's people actually hang out here, reading taking notes. Sure, they could be surveying for the purposes of making a better product, but with the consumer on one side of the fence, and Microsoft, Google and all the third-party peons on the other side, there's no question as to whom they're making a better product for, and to whom it will hurt in the long run.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion Notebook
OS
Win 7 Pro/64-bit
:sarc:

No it didn't, you did. You screwed it by dual-booting with Ubuntu which places the GRUB boot loader in a higher priority that the Windows loader. When you tried to roll back to Windows 7, it got confused about where to write the Windows boot loader. Thus you ended up with a corrupted master boot record - a classic 0x7E BSOD.

Next time to post a BSOD thread, read the instructions - that way you might get a quicker reply.

BSOD after downgrade. (0x0000007E) - Windows 7 Help Forums

I know this is a late reply. Sorry.

Not sure if you yourself read the BSOD posting instructions, but if you do you see it requires running a program. Tell me, how was I to do that if the system was unbootable? Not trying to be rude, just saying to pay a little more attention to small details.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo 20390
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz
Motherboard
LENOVO Lenovo B40-30
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
(1) Realtek Bluetooth A2dp Device (2) Realtek Bluetooth A2
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
ST320LT012-1DG14C ATA Device
Antivirus
Avast!
Browser
Google Chrome
I changed my device few years ago. I think that's a better solution
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 64
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