Ignore Windows 7, Stick with XP and It Will Cost You.

Long live 7...

Xp is dead and buried! Long live 7...:D
 

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The processing power of a new machine today compared to the last time machines cam preloaded woith Xp is INSANE.

There have been massive speed increases in processors in the last 4 years. Compare an i7 to a core 2 duo even an i5 compared to a core 2 duo, the hot new processor towards the end of XPs shelf life. Same goes for video cards. A new gaming rig today with W7 would blow doors off anything at any price 4 years ago running XP

This is the reason that Vista and Seven's performance is accepted and perceived as superior to XP by casual consumer computer users. When I returned to XP after using the newer operating systems (especially Vista) I found that XP ran smoother and quicker while doing my work. I realize that XP's days are numbered and I am not recommending it for everyone, but if you are a power user, play games, or work with video/3D animation you will likely to be surprised how well XP still performs on systems it was not even designed to work on.

The latest is not always greatest.
 

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Windows XP x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.67 GHz8GB DDR2NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP m9200t
OS
Windows XP x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.67 GHz
Motherboard
Asus IPIBL-LB
Memory
8GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Sound Card
Integrated Audio
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Companies generally don't upgrade their machines until the first patch is released for the OS in question. Many, if not all, companies are still using older versions such as XP, especially after the Vista was released. But while Win 7 is pretty mature to us here, for a company it is still very new. I don't blame them for waiting or choosing not to upgrade to Win 7 just yet, let MS iron out the "unknown bugs" before you put your workers computers and servers on the line.

Now for the general public, most people don't upgrade their OS on it's own. They will go out and buy a new computer when something goes wrong with their current machine, or they if they are buying the computer for something (school, work, etc.). Computer enthusiasts, such as many here, are much different from the general customers. While we feed on the latest builds, fastest processors, and latest computer components; the general population have the "as long as it does what I want it to do, I don't care" mind state-- Don't fix if it isn't broken, don't upgrade if it runs.
 

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Windows 7 x64Intel Core 2 Duo T66004GB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A505
OS
Windows 7 x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T6600
Memory
4GB
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
500GB
Companies generally don't upgrade their machines until the first patch is released for the OS in question. Many, if not all, companies are still using older versions such as XP, especially after the Vista was released. But while Win 7 is pretty mature to us here, for a company it is still very new. I don't blame them for waiting or choosing not to upgrade to Win 7 just yet, let MS iron out the "unknown bugs" before you put your workers computers and servers on the line.

Now for the general public, most people don't upgrade their OS on it's own. They will go out and buy a new computer when something goes wrong with their current machine, or they if they are buying the computer for something (school, work, etc.). Computer enthusiasts, such as many here, are much different from the general customers. While we feed on the latest builds, fastest processors, and latest computer components; the general population have the "as long as it does what I want it to do, I don't care" mind state-- Don't fix if it isn't broken, don't upgrade if it runs.

Very well put, Shade.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bitIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz2.50 GB RAMNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
This is the reason that Vista and Seven's performance is accepted and perceived as superior to XP by casual consumer computer users. When I returned to XP after using the newer operating systems (especially Vista) I found that XP ran smoother and quicker while doing my work. I realize that XP's days are numbered and I am not recommending it for everyone, but if you are a power user, play games, or work with video/3D animation you will likely to be surprised how well XP still performs on systems it was not even designed to work on.

The latest is not always greatest.

well duh.... Xp was designed in a time when PC's were much less powerful, it had to do more with less, of course its going to seem faster.... your pc looks at it and doesnt even break a sweat because instead of the software its designed to run, you give it a 10 year old OS that it doesnt even break a sweat over, thus allocating more resources to other stuff

to use the car analogy (again) its like taking a morris minor and sticking a V8 in it, then saying its faster than a modern ford focus
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz8GB 2133Mhz DDR4 (OEM supplied)Gygabyte Windforce GTX 1050Ti (Factory Overcl...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Medion Erazer (note to self: insert model number) - with custom additions
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
OEM supllied with PC
Memory
8GB 2133Mhz DDR4 (OEM supplied)
Graphics Card(s)
Gygabyte Windforce GTX 1050Ti (Factory Overclocked)
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Al1980 + HKC
Screen Resolution
1360*768(HKC) / 1280*1024(Acer)
Hard Drives
1TB Toshiba
1TB WD Caviar Green
120GB Samsung Evo 840
PSU
OEM supplied (no power rating on case)
Case
OEM Supplied
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless
Mouse
Logitect Wireless
Internet Speed
40Mb/s Down 10Mb/s Up
Antivirus
Defender
Browser
Firefox
to use the car analogy (again) its like taking a morris minor and sticking a V8 in it, then saying its faster than a modern ford focus

And, indeed, it would be. ;)
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bitIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz2.50 GB RAMNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
In my computer club we still teach "XP for beginners" - and there are a lot of takers. Mostly older ladies where the husband died and they are now faced to deal themselves with the PC they happen to have at home (that's Florida). Most of those ladies are not inclined to buy anything new - unless the PC drops dead. For their 5 emails per week it does the job.
 

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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
In my computer club we still teach "XP for beginners" - and there are a lot of takers. Mostly older ladies where the husband died and they are now faced to deal themselves with the PC they happen to have at home (that's Florida). Most of those ladies are not inclined to buy anything new - unless the PC drops dead. For their 5 emails per week it does the job.

And without a new learning curve.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bitIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz2.50 GB RAMNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
alternatively

I think maybe a lot of those clinging to XP simply are afraid of change.:)

Or perhaps like many of us retirees, can't afford to upgrade all our favorite software when we want....which is why I love my dual-boot. When I was working every proggie got renewed every year. Reality bites some times. Eventually I'll have use for only 7, but in the meantime I don't have to fork out $5400 worth for replacing older programs I use regularly and can't afford all in one chunk.:shock: So far I love 7, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
 

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Windows 7 ultimateIntel Core i5 quad-core20 GBonboard
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus p8h77 based home build
OS
Windows 7 ultimate
CPU
Intel Core i5 quad-core
Motherboard
Asus P8H77
Memory
20 GB
Graphics Card(s)
onboard
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Planar PL2210MW
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
1 TB internal
1 TB external My Passport
PSU
unsure
Case
Antac 300
Cooling
unsure
Keyboard
Logitech K350
Mouse
Logitech marble mouse (trackball)
Internet Speed
4G wireless usually 15mpbs
Antivirus
Avast with mail shield disabled
Browser
waterfox
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Attached old wacom iindigo pen and tablet from 2000
guess thats what they said about the model T ford.. People would love to get their hands on one.
 

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windows 73 gigon board
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
windows 7
Memory
3 gig
Graphics Card(s)
on board
Sound Card
?
Monitor(s) Displays
19" HP
Hard Drives
1 TB
Internet Speed
Average 6.8kbps
Other Info
32 bit/64 bit
Articles like this frustrate me personaly. they never see it as, some people like myself can not afford W7, I have Three computers in my home. Two desktops run XP and the lap top runs Linux. My wife could care less as long as iTunes works and she can sync her phone and check her e-mail, The laptop is for e-mail and quick searches from the den, Then there is my desktop. Again I can't afford W7 and Linux is NOT an option due to the fact that I do Home audio recording and my sound card is not compatible with any linux distro.

They make it seem that my life is useless and I am stupid for not upgrading. It just really frustrates me to hear how outdated and stupid I am for wanting to stay with XP. I disagree 100%!

I did read it and I do realize it is more for small buisness, but I have read comment after comment and article after article saying the same thing about home users. I do like W7 and my company is going to it, using it now as a tester for the company, but some people just can't afford it.
 
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Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Tri...AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 dual-core3 GBATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension E521
OS
Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
CPU
AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 dual-core
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB
Sound Card
M-Audio Mobile Pre USB External
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 1916W x2
Screen Resolution
1440X900
Hard Drives
250 GB internal main, 500 GB internal backup, 1TB External
PSU
300 Watt
Keyboard
Dell
I think maybe a lot of those clinging to XP simply are afraid of change.:)

That and older hardware. If it works, why change?

month ago i upgraded some important parts:

Athlon 64 3000+ -> Athlon II X4 630
old AGP board -> new PCI-E with onboard Radeon HD 4200 (it's DX 10.1 and i plan to get discrete DX11 card )
2 GB -> 4 GB RAM (plan to stick 4GB more)

XP simply can't properly use all this multicore awesomeness. plus 7's aero is sweeet.
 

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Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE12GB (Kingston 4GB & 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Kits)MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
12GB (Kingston 4GB & 8GB DDR3 1333MHz Kits)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II
Sound Card
ALC892, SB Audigy ES
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA II, Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB SATA III, Seagate Barracuda LP 2TB SATA II
PSU
Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Cooling
Zalman CNPS10X Performa, CM 230mm, Titan 140mm PWM
Keyboard
Logitech Illuminated
Mouse
Logitech G400 on SteelSeries 4HD
Other Info
M-Audio Oxygen 25, Xbox 360 Wired Controller
Articles like this frustrate me personaly. they never see it as, some people like myself can not afford W7, I have Three computers in my home. Two desktops run XP and the lap top runs Linux. My wife could care less as long as iTunes works and she can sync her phone and check her e-mail, The laptop is for e-mail and quick searches from the den, Then there is my desktop. Again I can't afford W7 and Linux is NOT an option due to the fact that I do Home audio recording and my sound card is not compatible with any linux distro.

They make it seem that my life is useless and I am stupid for not upgrading. It just really frustrates me to hear how outdated and stupid I am for wanting to stay with XP. I disagree 100%!

I did read it and I do realize it is more for small buisness, but I have read comment after comment and article after article saying the same thing about home users. I do like W7 and my company is going to it, using it now as a tester for the company, but some people just can't afford it.

I don't think that most people (article including) are saying that everyone needs to upgrade to W7 today on all machines. It's more that it's not smart to /avoid/ upgrading when you do need to replace hardware.

My main comment on the situation is that you use the OS that comes with the next computer upgrade. No you don't have to upgrade to W7 today. But when people do upgrade their machines then downgrade their OS to XP on the new hardware /that's/ when the points in this article really start to make make sense. You end up spending more time and money on maintaining old software on old OSes than you do by moving forward in a "timely" fasion. And for buisness that may be 3-4 years :P

If your personal machine does everything you need it to today and still does 5 years from now. Then there's really no problem, as long as the hardware lasts.
 

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Windows 7 x64 Ultimatei7 96012 Gig Corsair DominatorNvidia 480
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Scratch built
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
i7 960
Motherboard
Asus P6X58D
Memory
12 Gig Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 480
Sound Card
Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors
Screen Resolution
1920x1200 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode.
PSU
Corasair TX850
Case
Cooler Master HAF
Cooling
Corsair H50
Keyboard
Logitech G15 + N52 game pad
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
15kbs down 4.5kbps up
Other Info
WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7
Articles like this frustrate me personaly. they never see it as, some people like myself can not afford W7, I have Three computers in my home. Two desktops run XP and the lap top runs Linux. My wife could care less as long as iTunes works and she can sync her phone and check her e-mail, The laptop is for e-mail and quick searches from the den, Then there is my desktop. Again I can't afford W7 and Linux is NOT an option due to the fact that I do Home audio recording and my sound card is not compatible with any linux distro.

They make it seem that my life is useless and I am stupid for not upgrading. It just really frustrates me to hear how outdated and stupid I am for wanting to stay with XP. I disagree 100%!

I did read it and I do realize it is more for small buisness, but I have read comment after comment and article after article saying the same thing about home users. I do like W7 and my company is going to it, using it now as a tester for the company, but some people just can't afford it.

I don't think that most people (article including) are saying that everyone needs to upgrade to W7 today on all machines. It's more that it's not smart to /avoid/ upgrading when you do need to replace hardware.

My main comment on the situation is that you use the OS that comes with the next computer upgrade. No you don't have to upgrade to W7 today. But when people do upgrade their machines then downgrade their OS to XP on the new hardware /that's/ when the points in this article really start to make make sense. You end up spending more time and money on maintaining old software on old OSes than you do by moving forward in a "timely" fasion. And for buisness that may be 3-4 years :P

If your personal machine does everything you need it to today and still does 5 years from now. Then there's really no problem, as long as the hardware lasts.


Fair and balanced point. I see what is being said now. I can see that if I ever did buy a new computer, I certainly wouldn't downgrade to XP. Thanks for clearing that up :D
 

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Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Tri...AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 dual-core3 GBATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension E521
OS
Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
CPU
AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 dual-core
Memory
3 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350 1GB
Sound Card
M-Audio Mobile Pre USB External
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 1916W x2
Screen Resolution
1440X900
Hard Drives
250 GB internal main, 500 GB internal backup, 1TB External
PSU
300 Watt
Keyboard
Dell
I would still be on XP had I not received Seven as a gift - due to fixed income restraints.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bitIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz2.50 GB RAMNVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
Cooling
Fan based
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
Internet Speed
3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
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