Installed New Processor, No video, help!

[zomboromano]

I am no expert on processors.

In short:

Motherboard Specifications, IPIBL-LB (Benicia) HP Pavilion a6742p Desktop PC | HP® Support

There is my motherboard

And all of my info right there.

It gives me options to upgrade to and I'm just plain confused.

I bought a processor on Ebay: Intel Pentium D 960 SL9AP 3.60GHZ 4MB 800MHZ Socket LGA775 Dual-Core CPU

From what I saw on my processor through computer z it seemed to be the exact one just with more GHZ. But I'm no expert at ALL on processors.

In short: I would like help with 2 questions:

1: Why didn't I get a display when I installed the new processor? I updated the bios correctly and it booted corrrectly after I updated it. So does the processor just not fit my computer?

2: I see a list of processors that would but I don't understand it. I'm looking to spend between 50-100 to upgrade my processor. I have a 2.6 GHZ dual core and I'd like to get 3.6 or something around there at least. So you could give me some links, like newegg, etc. Or give me examples of what to search on ebay?

That's really all. Any advice is helpful.

Thanks!

Zach

 

[Mellon Head]

It looks as though the motherboard doesn't support your new processor. From the HP website you linked for your motherboard, it supports these processors:



I'm not much of an Intel guy, but I don't think that Pentium D you bought matches any of those. You'll have to look around for one of the processors listed in that picture.

 

[zomboromano]

That's mainly why the second question is so important.

I just need help. Finding some examples of processors that would be compatible or.good key words to search. Maybe some newegg links to some compatible quad cores.

Also I would like a recommendation. I have a Radeon 7970 3GB video card, and I'm looking to max some games but this processor is slowing me down

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Processors that are compatible with that motherboard are no longer being made.

Prepare to look on Ebay, Craig's list, or whatever.

"Core 2 Duo" or "Core 2 Quad core" would be the search terms. You need one of those mentioned by Mellon Head.

But we don't know what Core 2 processor you now have. Maybe you already have top of the line.

The strongest suitable would be something like a Core 2 Duo Quad Core 9650. I think it's about 3.0 GHz.

I'd plan on getting a new motherboard so I could get a more modern processor. You'd also have to get DDR3 RAM, rather than the DDR2 that you now have.

Somewhere around $300 on up for these 3 pieces: motherboard, CPU, RAM.

If you have to stay with your current motherboard for budget reasons, you need to lower your expectations.

Most would tell you upgrading that processor only is like buying oats for a dead horse. Not likely to be a rewarding experience.

 

[zomboromano]

I dont get why it wouldn't be rewarding. I know there should be a processor that would work, that would make it pretty quick. I'm just looking for the best cost effective way to improve my speed, which I'm guessing would be to get 8 GB of DDR2 and an improved processor (I have the processor listed on the link I gave you above, a Intel 2.6 ghz dual core)

 

[Britton30]

The top of the line CPU for that board, Intel Q6600 is only 2.4GHz.

It is on Amazon.com. Amazon.com: Intel Cpu Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz Fsb1066Mhz 8M Lga775 Tray: Electronics

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Well, you're entitled to define "rewarding" any way you want to.

The processors that are supported by that motherboard are listed in Mellon Head's post above.


I wouldn't expect more RAM to help in the least unless you have a specific reason to believe you are using all the RAM you have now.

 

[zomboromano]

Really fast, so that's the best possible processor at the best possible speed for my motherboard? I'm just unsure if a lower ghz would really be faster. I need some good advice with all this so I can learn

Great posts though. I really appreciate them.

Would I see a significant increase in speed from my 2.6 ghz pentium dual core?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

"Significant" is like "rewarding".

You get to define it.

By my definition, no. By yours, maybe.

Go to passmark.com and eyeball the CPU benchmark tables. You'll see dozens and dozens of cases where lower GHz quad cores hammer higher GHz dual cores.

 

[zomboromano]

I always heard dual core's were actually better for gaming.

My primary purpose is gaming, though I do multitask some on the side sometimes.

I mainly will play Elder Scrolls online, Diablo 3, and maybe Skyrim. My wife will probably get the Sims 4 when it comes out. I'm just looking to make this computer as fast as I can, specifically I want the highest frame rates I can get in games.

Are you sure there aren't any better processors that would work that are OVER 2.4 GHZ and also quad core?

Or would a dual core with a higher GHZ better serve my purpose? Again links and examples would help a lot.

I hope these questions don't annoy you all but I really just hate taking a couple general answers and assuming everything, when I really want to find the best thing for my purposes.

If I had a good deal lined up I would probably just sell this computer for $200 and maybe buy another for $350 with better ram and a better processor. But I just don't see a way to sell this easily and buy another computer easily.

Again my performance is almost where I want it. I feel a decent speed boost will make me more than content. I feel getting the best possible processor for what I like to do would help.

So any more ideas on the best possible processor? Best bang for your buck? And thoughts on dual core vs quad core with gaming?

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Process...id=1397380989&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+2+quad+q9

Like would this work? In the specifications it says I can upgrade up to: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9xxxxxx

 

[zomboromano]

And if it helps I currently have an Intel Pentium E5300 which is at 2.6 GHZ.

That's what I'm looking to improve on. And I'm just looking for just a few options (again, links help),

And looking to see what would actually be an improvement over it.

 

[badger906]

an intel core 2 quad q6600 would blow your pentium processor out of the water in terms of performance..

but it wont really blow your mind.. its a OLD processor and will still perform poorly in modern games. it will be great for games made in the same time as it 2008-2010~.

quad core is way better for gaming, regardless of how well optimised games are. some games will dedicated an entire core to just decoding audio, if youve only got 2 then thats one gone already. some games put AI on a separate core to, so more is better.

id stick with what youve got now and save up some pennies. you could build a decent gaming rig based on a quad core amd processor, something like an A10 7700k would be the difference between night and day compared to what you have now. for £200 inc mobo and ram youd have a complete new system able to play the latest games. (gpu dependant)

 

[zomboromano]

The processor you posted though is only around $40 used, and if the performance difference is in any way significant it will probably be exactly what I'm looking for. I already play most games I have on high settings with good fps. I'm just looking for a cheap way to make my pc faster and get me a little boost. Most Ganges I play are mmos, or skyrim, slightly older games or games with slightly less demanding graphics.

I have no idea how to replace a motherboard. I just scraped a computer with an amd processor recently because I didn't know the first thing about motherboards and installing them. It had ddr3 ram and all.

I don't have the time to learn about installing motherboards, what type I need, etc, and I don't have $200 plus dollars for upgrades.

Based on my knowledge and what you're saying, I think I can get pretty close by getting a $50 processor, and get what I want.

I just need to know if the processor you recommended is really the best I can get. And I would love if you could compare it to the processor where they said I could upgrade up to 9xxxx. Because the xxx`s make it very vague, but if my Amazon link I just posted is compatible I'd like to know if it's better

 

[andrew129260]

Another performance increase would be to look into getting a Solid State drive. It would speed up a older system easily, and the prices are falling more everyday. It is more expensive then a standard hard drive, but its really fast compared to HDD. If anything would blow your mind, I think a solid state drive would. Granted it won't help much for gaming compared to a new video card or processor...but everything you do will see a huge increase in speed.

Internal Solid-State Drives (SSD) - Newegg.com

Information about SSD:

Solid-state drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[badger906]

the core 2 quad q6600 go stepped was the best processor for the lga 775 socket set you have.
forget about the ghz number. the bigger the number no longer means the better performance.
its all about architecture and how well its coded for.
any of the core 2 range not just the quad will be an improvement over your pentium D they were always budget processors.

you could learn how to change a mobo and what cpu requires what socket in less time than it took to type that post
as a wise man one said "theres no excuse for refusing to learn knowledge other than a bad one"

 

[Britton30]

A link was posted giving compatible CPUs for your mobo, only one on the list will work, others may not even boot or could cause overheating.
There is no Q9xxx series on that list. You are trying to make a Ferarri from a Volkswagen, I don't think it's going to pan out the way you want and you will have wasted some hard-earned cash.

Even if you could sell yours and buy one in the $350 range, I suspect you'd have about equal performance. A decent entry level gaming rig would likely start in the $800 ballpark. Others may know more about that.

 

[zomboromano]

Well I got the q6600 for $50 bucks. Honestly I'm not too far away from where I want to be performance wise, especially for what I do.

I'll probably learn to overclock it, then I'll overclock it privacy around 2.7, just to have something safe. I'm guessing that would get me exactly what I'm looking for.

It might seem silly but it took me awhile to learn even Joe to install a processor. I've come so far in computer knowledge and I'm close to being able to build my own.

Since I'm close, I'll just install, overclock (I'll have to learn that), and if I need more performance I might learn about replacing the hard drive. Learning those things would also help me get closer to knowing what I need to know about rebuilding computers, but I wanna take it one affordable step at a time. And since In close to what I want, I think that $50 processor will do.

Thanks so much for the knowledge. It has been very helpful

 

[stormy13]

I'll probably learn to overclock it,

Not on a HP motherboard you won't. For starters all the necessary settings needed for overclocking aren't there.

 

[badger906]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlCqYyAQE_w

theres a video from one of my favourite youtubers. its not vastly long, but will teach you'll ever need to know about building a rig.. well not everything, but more than youll need to know for a first time build.

Back when i started.. i had to read a thing called a book!! and not much has changed

 

[stormy13]

Back when i started.. i had to read a thing called a book!! and not much has changed

I went one further and omitted the book. I stripped down an old Pentium 166 and put it back together. Gave it a good cleaning while I was at it, and it fired right back up after. Then realized just how easy it is to build a computer, and been building since then.

As far as tools needed to build a computer, a Philips screwdriver and maybe an anti-static wristband is all you need.