Internal HD housing exchange problem

Bernardus

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I recently bought a HD internal housing from Sharkoon SATA QuickPort Intern 1-Bay
This is hot swap-able.
However, if I change the drive, windows explorer displays the previous HD.
There is no way like an external USB to cast out the device.
Also Configuration disk management etc. show the same previous drive.
So I have to reboot before I have access to the new drive.
Wonder if there would be an option like an USB drive does?
The device seems to connect exactly like a real SATA drive.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
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ASRock G41MH/USB3.
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(1) Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (2) Intel(R) G41 Express
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My guess is you have the internal housing (also known as an internal hot swap bay or, more simply, hot swap bay or swap bay) connected to SATA ports that either do not have hot swap capability or the hot swap capability has not been turned on. Also, your SATA ports have to be set to AHCI before Hot Swap can be enabled (assuming the ports have that capability). All this has to be done from within the BIOS.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Thanks for your reply, have to figure that out.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASRock G41MH/USB3.
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (2) Intel(R) G41 Express
Sound Card
(1) VIA High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
S24B350 Samsung
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ST31000528AS ATA Device (2) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (3) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (4) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (5) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device
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What I found is an enabled enhanced option for SATA in the bios.
In the register I found some 20 strings related to AHCI. So I guess the drivers are installed.
However I don't know how to turn that on in windows yet?

Came to a possible solution.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci
Change the value to decimal 0
No Idea where the original value 3 stands for.
"Start"=dword:00000003

After that, reboot and than the BIOS shows the AHCI option.
It doesn't work quick. It takes considerable time before Windows detect the HD absent ans thrown out.
But indeed it finally disappears out of explorer and the new drive could be mounted.
Still it won't always show up?

It seems that the ACPI option is only available before the installation of Windows.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASRock G41MH/USB3.
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (2) Intel(R) G41 Express
Sound Card
(1) VIA High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
S24B350 Samsung
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ST31000528AS ATA Device (2) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (3) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (4) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (5) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device
Antivirus
ZoneAlarm Free Antivirus + Firewall version: 12.0.104.000 Vs
I looked up the manual for your motherboard and it's older than I originally thought. Apparently, it does not support hot swap. If it did, it would clearly have an option for enabling hot swap.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
One can use hot swap bays on a system without a bios hot swap.

BUT they can only be used properly by turning the computer off, add or remove the hot swap bay drive and reboot.
It just makes it easier to add and remove drives without going inside the computer tower. BUT one still has to power down first. It's a basic external Sata and power connection.

Even though both my systems are Hot Swap bios I still catch myself shutting down before adding or removing a Hot Swap drive.
Old habits are hard to break.

Jack
 

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Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
One can use hot swap bays on a system without a bios hot swap.

BUT they can only be used properly by turning the computer off, add or remove the hot swap bay drive and reboot.
It just makes it easier to add and remove drives without going inside the computer tower. BUT one still has to power down first. It's a basic external Sata and power connection.

Even though both my systems are Hot Swap bios I still catch myself shutting down before adding or removing a Hot Swap drive.
Old habits are hard to break.

Jack

You are absolutely correct! Thanks for clarifying my post.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Your right about that.
It's to messy to hot swap drives and the result is unpredictable.
So I reboot. I don't need much swapping.
The second HD runs most of the time idle, so why keep it mounted inside?
I take it out and use it only when necessary or for a backup.
Thanks for advice.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASRock G41MH/USB3.
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
(1) Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset (2) Intel(R) G41 Express
Sound Card
(1) VIA High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
S24B350 Samsung
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ST31000528AS ATA Device (2) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (3) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (4) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (5) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device
Antivirus
ZoneAlarm Free Antivirus + Firewall version: 12.0.104.000 Vs
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