is my system under powered?

[essenbe]

Go back into bios and set everything to optimized defaults (always after bios update). As far as trying prime95 again, it depends on how brave you are.

 

[kalelreturns]

crashed again.

 

[essenbe]

Sorry to hear that. Maybe we will hear from Jonathan King soon.

 

[kalelreturns]

Jonathan King I would appreciate it if you could look at these BSODs for me

2shared - download 072411-28860-01.zip
123101-14570-01.dmp.zip

 

[Britton30]

If you can edit the title of your post to mention BSOD, it will help.

 

[kalelreturns]

umm...I don't see anything where I can edit the title.

 

[Jonathan_King]

Really, there's not much we can learn with these dumps now. Every so often, the dump will blame something like the hard drive, or give a bugcheck pretty unique to CPU problems, but in most cases, the offending piece of hardware is identified with either a diagnostic tool or old-fashioned "replace and observe".

I'd say the problem is probably either the motherboard, RAM, CPU, or PSU. Remove all but one stick of RAM and see how the system runs (stably?). If it crashes, try just one other stick.

 

[Britton30]

Also here are a couple of PSUs to consider, and you should. From what I read your current one is a great 600W, but is supposed to be 750W, and you need enough to give all your components good, continuous, and clean power.
Newegg.com - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1050M 1050W ATX 12V v2.3 & SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-850M 850W ATX 12V v2.3 & SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply

 

[kalelreturns]

well, I swapped out my 750w for a corsair hx1050. I can breathe a little easier now, knowing that I won't have and power problems, but it didn't solve my issue.

 

[essenbe]

We can try to help you find out what the problem is, but be aware it is a long drawn out process. It basically involves eliminating one problem at a time. Let us know when you are ready. The easiest thing to start out with is to run in an elevated command prompt (start button-type cmd-right click cmd and select run as administrator) in the command window that opens, type sfc /scannow you can copy and paste that if you like, but notice the space between sfc and the / if you decide to type it. It is a system file checker that will verify all system files. If everything is OK it will eventually reply that it found no integrity errors.

Go to Asus website and make sure all drivers are updated and update your video card drivers. Go to AMD's website, they usually have the most updated drivers there.

Next, ram is usually the most likely suspect. read this tutorial and follow it, Test with Memtest86+ . That is quite time consuming, remember we are testing both the ram and the MB dimm slots. So, there is a lot of testing. each test needs to be run for 8 passes (usually 6-8 hours) you can stop if you get errors and go to the next step in the tutorial. Let us know how it comes out.

 

[kalelreturns]

I ran to the store and picked up a 3V battery for my mobo to see if that did anything, but it didnt

 

[kalelreturns]

We can try to help you find out what the problem is, but be aware it is a long drawn out process. It basically involves eliminating one problem at a time. Let us know when you are ready. The easiest thing to start out with is to run in an elevated command prompt (start button-type cmd-right click cmd and select run as administrator) in the command window that opens, type sfc /scannow you can copy and paste that if you like, but notice the space between sfc and the / if you decide to type it. It is a system file checker that will verify all system files. If everything is OK it will eventually reply that it found no integrity errors.

Go to Asus website and make sure all drivers are updated and update your video card drivers. Go to AMD's website, they usually have the most updated drivers there.

Next, ram is usually the most likely suspect. read this tutorial and follow it, Test with Memtest86+ . That is quite time consuming, remember we are testing both the ram and the MB dimm slots. So, there is a lot of testing. each test needs to be run for 8 passes (usually 6-8 hours) you can stop if you get errors and go to the next step in the tutorial. Let us know how it comes out.

would love to, but my computer wont even boot now. I have also noticed that the top leds on my ballistixs tracer sticks stopped lighting up, and just the leds on the bottom are on.

 

[essenbe]

Try reseating the ram. While you are inside the case, check all connections from your PSU. Make sure they are plugged in the right connections, in the correct orientation and are fully seated. It would also be a good time to ensure that there are no bare or frayed wires. The problem you describe sounds more like ram that is not completely seated or is getting insufficient power. Of course, the LEDs could be burnt out too. What happens when you turn the computer on? Do the lights and fans start running, do you see anything on the screen?

 

[essenbe]

Also, this may sound silly, but it happened to me once. Pay close attention to the 24 pin connection. The plug from the PSU is a 20+4 pin connection, meaning the 4 pin section can come loose from the 20 pin. When inserting it, the 4 pin can seperate and not fully seat.

 

[kalelreturns]

yeah, i had that problem with my 750w psu, the 4pin, kept coming loose, but this new corsair has really good connectors that sit pretty tight, and the 4 pin connector is pretty securely attached to the 20pin, so it won't come loose. as for the memory, I tried it in another system, and the memory worked fine, when I turned on the power, it did the exact same thing as what I have been experiencing, everything turns on, lights and all, but the monitor didn't turn on, and didn't hear any activity from the computer. tried reseating the ram, dont see any bare wiring. however, there was an extra 4 pin connector on my other PSU, that I connected my motherboard, by my cpu, but this new PSU doesn't have that extra 4 pin connector. Is that a problem?

 

[kalelreturns]

scratch that part about the 4 pin, connector, I overlooked my cables. windows started up fine. I'll try running that prime95 test again.

 

[essenbe]

If you only had 4 pin connector plugged into an 8 pin ATX +12V, that could be the problem. That connection supplys power to the CPU.

 

[kalelreturns]

i have a 4 pin on the mobo, but i didnt have the psu connected to it. silly me. I ran the prime95 test and it crashed again about a minute in at 48C. I hate to say this, but I'm starting to think that the mobo is the problem. I have read many reviews on newegg (Newegg.com - ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard) and many are experiencing the same problem, and there customer support is supposedly horrible. If this is the case, it looks like I just might have to trash this one and get another, but I'm not really sure, what good brands are out there.

 

[essenbe]

I am not aware of any of the mobo brands that have decent customer support. But, even if I bought a new mobo, I would RMA that one. Wouldn't hurt to have an extra around. And with an extra PSU now and another MOBO you have a good start on another system.

I would still try to run memtest on the ram though. A lot of issues are caused by ram problems, and I don't think it puts a lot of strain on the CPU.

 

[Dave76]

could someone tell me if my system is under powered?

phenom II x4 3.5ghz 970
Asus m4a78t-E motherboard
4GB crucial ballistix tracer ddr3 1600
seagate barracuda 1Tb 7200rpm
2x radeon hd 6850 in crossfire
blu-ray burner
cooler master gx 750w
razer lycosa
razer mamba
razer megalodon
2x 230mm led fans
2x 140mm led fans
2x 120mm led fans
cooler master gemeni II cpu cooler

I believe that is everything that runs off my power supply. nothing is overclocked

I have seen 1600MHz RAM frequency cause a lot of BSoDs on AMD CPUs.
Post the information requested below and we can change the settings and see if it will help your system become more stable.

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