Issues with USB3 SSD

koberulz

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Using it to capture HD video on a Win10 laptop and then transfer to a desktop running Win7, where I edit it.

I've been doing this for years, without issue. So EOL is not exactly relevant here. I did it last week without issue, even.

It connects fine to the laptop, where I'm using a USB3 cable, but kept dropping frames during the capture for some reason. Eventually got it to work though.

Plugged it into the desktop, with a USB3-to-USB2 cable, and nothing happened. Unplugged it, plugged it back in, rinse and repeat. Sometimes the light on the SSD enclosure came on, sometimes it didn't, but the OS never recognised that anything had been plugged in.

Then, eventually, it did...and insisted I had to format the drive before I could use it. Not happening; I'd just spent hours capturing video. Unplugged it again, plugged it into the laptop, everything was still there. Plugged it back into the desktop, and it worked.

But it was suuuuper slow. Normally I can scrub HD video in Premiere CS6 with no issues, but now I can't even play it back at full frame rate. Which I guess was also why I couldn't capture without dropping frames. Which means the issue crosses OS versions, again, definitely not an EOL thing.

When I did finally get it plugged in, I also got a message saying the device could perform faster if I plugged it into a USB3 thing, a message I've never seen before despite always plugging the drive into the same USB port.

For clarity, it's a WD Blue 2.5" SSD in an AKI 2.5" enclosure, because that was about $1000 cheaper than buying an external SSD.

And it keeps happening. I keep plugging and unplugging the drive and the desktop recognises it only a tiny fraction of the time. Sometimes the enclosure light comes on, sometimes it doesn't. And when it does work, on either machine, it's slower than it should be.

As of today, I can no longer get any response at all - not even a light - on the desktop using the rear USB ports - which work fine with the same cable if I plug my Google Pixel in. But if I plug it into the front ports, it works. But I'm not sure if those are even USB2...

But even the front port can't hang onto it for more than ten minutes, which is useless. I have no idea what to think. The drive gets picked up fine on the laptop, so it can't be the drive or enclosure, but other things work fine on the desktop, so it can't be my PC, and it was all working just fine two or three days ago so none of it makes any sense.
 

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Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
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NVIDIA GeForce 1060

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If it was the enclosure, you'd assume it would fail everywhere equally.

But it doesn't. It's always recognised on the laptop, and always recognised on my front USB ports before dropping out, and never recognised on my rear USB ports at all.

Makes no sense.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Well, I just tried it on two other laptops. One Win7, and one Win10.

The Win10 works fine. The Win7 gives a light on the enclosure, but nothing else. Plugging and unplugging it does refresh the Device Manager, although nothing changes.

Plugged it into my desktop again to see what happened in Device Manger there...and now it works perfectly, even running at a higher speed than before. Which...doesn't really solve anything, given how unexplained this all is.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Try to run chkdsk x: /f (repace X with the proper drive letter)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

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    PC/Desktop
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    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
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    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
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    TinyWall firewall
Clean.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
...and now it's working on my Win7 desktop quite reliably, and not being recognised at all (no enclosure light) on the Win10 laptop.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Is there any yellow alerts on device manager (laptop and / or desktop)?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Aaaand it's gone back to working on the laptop and failing on the desktop. This is...very weird.

Only one yellow alert on the desktop's Device Manager, the Teredo Tunnelling Pseudo Interface under Network Adapters, which I can't see being relevant.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Hmm. I may have found a solution, although it's not one that really explains anything.

It seems to work on the desktop when face down, but not when face up.

It seems to work on the laptop when face up, but not when face down.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Hmm. I may have found a solution, although it's not one that really explains anything.

It seems to work on the desktop when face down, but not when face up.

It seems to work on the laptop when face up, but not when face down.

You're joking, aren't you?


Check the USB contacts. Twist the cable while connected.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
I am, in fact, not joking.

Disconnecting the SSD from the USB cable, flipping it over, and plugging it back in - without removing the USB cable from the computer - has now successfully fixed the problem three times running, across both machines, using different USB cables (USB3-USB3 on the laptop, USB3-USB2 on the desktop).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
Well here we are a week later, and since figuring out that it had to be face-up on the laptop and face-down on the desktop I have had zero issues.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 1060
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