Ivy Bridge IHS

[essenbe]

Return Merchandise Authorization, believe me, I should know. However, Lady Fitzgerald is correct in her use of the abbreviation, but the Manufacturers' call it an RMA also.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hum well I just refer the darn things as Return To Manufacturer as about as basic as it could get I reckon there seems to be a lot of quibbling about a reference term.

The real issue in my mind is would you take out the gearbox of a new car disassemble it put it back together and expect it to work and if it didn't do you think for one moment the car maker is going to put in a new gearbox for free!! If one does then you must believe in the tooth fairy:sarc:

Nobody - they will know if the CPU has been tampered with simply because of all the compound you replaced as one detail that will not escape their notice, plus any marks you have inscribed on the surfaces of the heat spreader plate and the chip "board". Notwithstanding when we are talking about this sort of money they are not going to replace it in a million years. Can you imagine if they did that every time sometime took it upon themselves to attempt repairs like this on one of their CPU's how much it would cost them when those CPU's were returned.

To be absolutely frank that fellow in that video was irresponsible in the extreme to show what he does himself in private - in public on YouTube. It has left you in my tiny mind in a very unsavoury and vulnerable position and probably up for the cost of not only the CPU but also getting the board checked out.

I truly feel sorry for you and do hope you do get some satisfaction out of all this but I for one will not be holding my breath.

 

[Britton30]

I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.

That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.

I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)

I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.

 

[essenbe]

I would tend to agree Gary.

Nobody, when you delided the chip, did you happen to notice all the thick heavy glue used to glue the IHS down? That is the problem that causes the heat. The thermal paste Intel uses is good, the heavy glue keeps the IHS from making good contact with the actual CPU. That is the problem. You will notice in your video, he went to a lot of trouble to get it off and did not replace it. That was for a reason.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.

That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.

I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)

I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.

Yes Gary just about what I ranted about and I prefer the "generic" Return To Manufacturer (RTM) if if you are going to use acronyms all the time - I think quibbling about stuff like that is a bit of a nonsense.
At uni courses we used to quote the whole phrase and then enclosed the initials in brackets (as above) for further reference and to stop having to repeat oneself - well that was / is the accepted way of doing things where I have done any training and also in my day to day work.

 

[N0b0dy]

I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.

That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.

I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)

I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.

Yes Gary just about what I ranted about and I prefer the "generic" Return To Manufacturer (RTM) if if you are going to use acronyms all the time - I think quibbling about stuff like that is a bit of a nonsense.
At uni courses we used to quote the whole phrase and then enclosed the initials in brackets (as above) for further reference and to stop having to repeat oneself - well that was / is the accepted way of doing things where I have done any training and also in my day to day work.

Well i contacted Intel shipped my broken CPU back and they gave me a new one. Just got it today

 

[essenbe]

Great job, I know you feel better now.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Great job, I know you feel better now.

and I would add extremely lucky knowing mine I would have been sent to the old one back and told to buy new :sarc:

 

[Britton30]

Maybe Intel has realized they screwed up with the thermal stuff they put in the Ivy Bridge package.

 

[essenbe]

May be Gary. I know of someone else on OCN that had the same thing happen and Intel RMA'd it for him. I thought that was just a fluke, but maybe not.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

May be Gary. I know of someone else on OCN that had the same thing happen and Intel RMA'd it for him. I thought that was just a fluke, but maybe not.

Ye Steve would have been nice to see a pic of it when it was opened eh? even so I still reckon it was lucky.

 

[kbrady1979]

I wonder if that is why Intel implemented the $25 CPU OC'ing insurance? As far as I know, that started with Ivy Bridge.

 

[essenbe]

May be Gary. I know of someone else on OCN that had the same thing happen and Intel RMA'd it for him. I thought that was just a fluke, but maybe not.

Ye Steve would have been nice to see a pic of it when it was opened eh? even so I still reckon it was lucky.

Is this what you wanted John?

 

[DeaconFrost]

Two things amaze me about this thread. First...how or why anyone would ever decide to remove the IHS from a processor, especially an expensive, current one. I've made keychains out of old, dead processors...but I can't understand why anyone would do that.

As for RMA, why the argument over the word and it's usage? Acronyms don't need to be pronounceable words, and in fact, many are not. They are made up of the first letter of a longer title, for example, CIA. Does anyone actually try to pronounce that as a word?
Acronym - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, this is an internet forum. If proper English was a requirement, no site like this would exist anymore. If some want to use RMA as a verb to shorten the description of the process, why rant about it? Manufacturer's use it as a verb, so it isn't just computer forums. Intel and Patriot have both recently instructed me to RMA their products in trying to solve a major system issue.

Yes, I'm saying this mostly in jest, but I'm sure we can find something better to argue about, right?

 

[Britton30]

Two things amaze me about this thread. First...how or why anyone would ever decide to remove the IHS from a processor, especially an expensive, current one. I've made keychains out of old, dead processors...but I can't understand why anyone would do that.

As for RMA, why the argument over the word and it's usage? Acronyms don't need to be pronounceable words, and in fact, many are not. They are made up of the first letter of a longer title, for example, CIA. Does anyone actually try to pronounce that as a word?
Acronym - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, this is an internet forum. If proper English was a requirement, no site like this would exist anymore. If some want to use RMA as a verb to shorten the description of the process, why rant about it? Manufacturer's use it as a verb, so it isn't just computer forums. Intel and Patriot have both recently instructed me to RMA their products in trying to solve a major system issue.

Yes, I'm saying this mostly in jest, but I'm sure we can find something better to argue about, right?

Did, done, and over.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Two things amaze me about this thread. First...how or why anyone would ever decide to remove the IHS from a processor, especially an expensive, current one. I've made keychains out of old, dead processors...but I can't understand why anyone would do that.

As for RMA, why the argument over the word and it's usage? Acronyms don't need to be pronounceable words, and in fact, many are not. They are made up of the first letter of a longer title, for example, CIA. Does anyone actually try to pronounce that as a word?
Acronym - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, this is an internet forum. If proper English was a requirement, no site like this would exist anymore. If some want to use RMA as a verb to shorten the description of the process, why rant about it? Manufacturer's use it as a verb, so it isn't just computer forums. Intel and Patriot have both recently instructed me to RMA their products in trying to solve a major system issue.

Yes, I'm saying this mostly in jest, but I'm sure we can find something better to argue about, right?

And yet here you are arguing. And your link contradicts you.

 

[DeaconFrost]

And yet here you are arguing. And your link contradicts you.

My link confirms my point...just look at the examples. HTML is another. Acronyms aren't always said as words. If so, I'm going to walk into my bosses office today and refer to her as a cufo...since that must be the way to say CFO.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

And yet here you are arguing. And your link contradicts you.

My link confirms my point...just look at the examples. HTML is another. Acronyms aren't always said as words. If so, I'm going to walk into my bosses office today and refer to her as a cufo...since that must be the way to say CFO.

HTML isn't an acronym; it's an initialization.

 

[DeaconFrost]

If you insist on splitting hairs, fine, then so be it, if you really need to argue semantics to that level. However, I did go ask two of our PR writers, and both laughed at the question...yet both said there's really no differentiating...and to call something like HTML an acronym is no incorrect.

But then again, if you need to argue a point like this online, I'd suggest a hobby, a mate...something else to occupy your time.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

If you insist on splitting hairs, fine, then so be it, if you really need to argue semantics to that level. However, I did go ask two of our PR writers, and both laughed at the question...yet both said there's really no differentiating...and to call something like HTML an acronym is no incorrect.

But then again, if you need to argue a point like this online, I'd suggest a hobby, a mate...something else to occupy your time.

Pot, meet kettle.