Solved Java problem a MAJOR PITA (cannot disable updates)

[event3horizon]

I'm running 32bit Win 7 home premium w/sp1


I just installed the latest Java 6 update 32 through my admin account. After installation, i disabled updates via its own control panel and clicked apply.

I then login to my standard user account, and go to the java control panel, and it's STILL checked. I run as administrator, but it doesn't prompt me for a password, and opens, but the option to disable it is greyed out.

I've ran it as a different user, (as admin), and the java ctrl panel opens up but it seems to reflect exactly what I did under admin account (it is disabled and not greyed out)

Question is HOW can I ever disable auto updates for a standard user account if it will never let me disable it?

The only workaround is temporarily enabling the standard user account as admin account then settings it back, but this is a pain. Is there a NORMAL way to disable auto java updates?

If it helps, the UAC is completely off too.

 

[gigagiggles]

I had reached a point last year when I realized Oracle nee Sun would not fix this "bug". To compound this, when I encountered users and their HijackThis reports, their JavaRuntimeEnvironment were never up-to-date!!!

Then someone mentioned JRE is not really needed by W7, only by a few software. I removed the JRE and have not experienced any hiccups from its absence.

JRE is required for the database module of LibreOffice (which I use, just not the database module).

When I had JRE installed (which is now version 7r4), I would disable or remove the java updater in startup, taskscheduler and registry hive. I went as far as renaming update.* files. I also checked my firewall options for exclusion opportunities. But that was then.

 

[A Guy]

I believe just removing the jusched.exe from startup will do the trick. Java seems to insist of adding it, I just delete it with CCleaners Startup tool, or Winpatrol. You could also delete the exe from C:\program files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update

A Guy

 

[event3horizon]

Thanks, I'm sure that will be a fix... although it's a workaround and not a normal fix. I guess this is a stupid Java bug that never got fixed since I've ran into this with even older JRE's.

 

[karlsnooks]

event3horizon,

WIN | type MSCONFIG | ENTER | STARTUP tab
uncheck all entries you find for Java

REBOOT!

WIN=key with microsoft flag on top.

 

[event3horizon]

will do. Thanks for the assistance!

 

[Kuzan]

A guy what exe in the said folder do i need to delete
juacheck.exe
juareg.exe
jucheck.exe
jusched.exe

 

[A Guy]

A guy what exe in the said folder do i need to delete
juacheck.exe
juareg.exe
jucheck.exe
jusched.exe

Welcome to Seven Forums Kuzan.

I believe just removing the jusched.exe from startup will do the trick. Java seems to insist of adding it, I just delete it with CCleaners Startup tool, or Winpatrol. You could also delete the exe from C:\program files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update

A Guy

A Guy

 

[jhiker]

You need to give the Java Control Panel Admin rights.

Navigate to where Java is installed, usually something along these lines:

C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin

Then scroll down till you see:

javacpl.exe


Right click on javacpl.exe

Then select Run as administrator.

The control panel applet will open up and you can now permanently disable the auto update feature without forever granting javacpl.exe administrative rights.

 

[A Guy]

Welcome to Seven Forums jhiker. Thanks for the new info

A Guy

 

[Abdul69]

jhiker, you missed the point of the OP.

When you elevate the java control panel it edits the user settings associated with the user account that provides the elevation, not the standard user, so once you turn it off and then check the control panel applet again for the standard user, nothing has changed and the update reminders keep on coming.

As a standard user you cannot install Java updates (since admin rights are required) and you cannot disable the notifications! So Java insists on reminding you about something that you cannot do, and provides no native way of disabling the functionality. This is possibly one of the most annoying situations I have come across with a software updater in a long time. I'm here because it's even too much to handle for my 8 year old (who runs with a standard user account) and gets pestered day in, day out to install updates that she cannot install.

The one way I have found to disable this globally is by editing the following REG_DWORD reg key (Win7 x64).
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\JavaSoft\Java Update\Policy\EnableJavaUpdate to 0

This has the effect of removing the update tab from the Java control panel applet.

I am yet to see if this solution stands the test of time, but will update my post if it doesn't work.

 

[A Guy]

Welcome to Seven Forums Abdul69. Old thread, but new info

A Guy

 

[ICIT2LOL]

jhiker, you missed the point of the OP.

When you elevate the java control panel it edits the user settings associated with the user account that provides the elevation, not the standard user, so once you turn it off and then check the control panel applet again for the standard user, nothing has changed and the update reminders keep on coming.

As a standard user you cannot install Java updates (since admin rights are required) and you cannot disable the notifications! So Java insists on reminding you about something that you cannot do, and provides no native way of disabling the functionality. This is possibly one of the most annoying situations I have come across with a software updater in a long time. I'm here because it's even too much to handle for my 8 year old (who runs with a standard user account) and gets pestered day in, day out to install updates that she cannot install.

The one way I have found to disable this globally is by editing the following REG_DWORD reg key (Win7 x64).
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\JavaSoft\Java Update\Policy\EnableJavaUpdate to 0

This has the effect of removing the update tab from the Java control panel applet.

I am yet to see if this solution stands the test of time, but will update my post if it doesn't work.

Yes welcome Abdul I never mention these things in here cos you can put money on someone trying something similar and wrecking the machine but I always go for the jugular (HKEY) with the crap stuff in the way you outlined - eat your heart out AVG, Askbar and Symantec etc with your rubbish left overs

 

[event3horizon]

I solved this actually by going into C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update and renaming (or delete) jusched.exe. It will never check again! This should work on all Windows with java 7.

 

[A Guy]

Thought that's what it would take

A Guy

 

[Alejandro85]

Nice trick. Some time ago I've done something similar by replacing jusched.exe by a self-made exe that does absolutely nothing! So Java thinks it did something but actually nothing happens.

It's really annoying that it just tries to update when it feels like, and even more annoying (and suspecting) that an UAC prompt pop ups out of nowhere for me to approve the update.