"lag" in online games with Windows 7

[denox]

I had same problem with you guys before and none of the tricks above work for me.
I moved back to wired connection and all problem are gone.
I guess that is the only option for me now.

 

[pinstripe]

So what happens when you disable your sound device entirely in device manager?

Still lagging.

Is that network latency or framerate drop? Honestly, your CPU may simply be too weak.

 

[kicken]

So what happens when you disable your sound device entirely in device manager?

Still lagging.

Is that network latency or framerate drop? Honestly, your CPU may simply be too weak.

Don't know the terms, so I don't acutally know what kind of lag it is. Well, I've run CS without any problems on this same computer with XP, so I really don't think it's the CPU as long as W7 doesn't take up all the CPU

 

[pinstripe]

I mean, with Windows 7 your CPU may be too weak. Are we talking about 1.6 or Source? My old laptop with a celeron (slightly slower than yours) had a hard time running even 1.6 on an XP machine.

 

[gunners]

Thought I might wade in here as well...

I seem to be getting random lag spikes in CSS, despite having tried the fix earlier in this thread. The game loads fine, I get good frame rates (about 180fps), have no loss and minimal choke (usually 0-2). Ping is about 50 on most servers I play on.

What is seriously annoying is that after playing for a couple of minutes, I get a wierd lag where I seem to be stuck for half a second, then warp forwards - also, after warping I get redistributed my guns and equipment (looks like I just picked them up). Seems like the game is dropping out briefly? The display from net_graph shows no particular spike in choke when this happens.

I've tried updating drivers - all are fresh as a daisy. Still no luck. Also, disabling the sound drivers makes no difference, I still get this problem. I have spent quite a few frustrating hours trying to rectify, but no luck! Any help would be mucho appreciated...

 

[raffael]

This problem is really annoying.

I have 2 PCs. One with Windows XP and second with Windows 7 x64 Pro. Few days ago I had Windows XP on both and everything was fine. Now I can't even play GTA2 on LAN (one PC through WiFi, one PC through cable) normally because of the lags. I've tried everything. Disabling the MMCSS, disabling sound devices (no influence), adding TcpAckFrequency like described here WoWAcker Main , disabling autotuning (netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disable) and still nothing.

Ping is between 70 and 100+ (sometimes even 150). On Windows XP it was 30 maximum. And that's even before the game, in the network game manager. I think during the game it gets even worse because I get some serious game hang-ups which are obviously network based. If anyone else know different method please inform me. If I won't find any solution I going back to Windows XP.

I'm using ATI Catalyst 9.12 & Realtek HD 2.39 drivers.

EDIT:

New thread started at http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/49546-lags-games-windows-7-x64-pro.html

 

[pinstripe]

if you disable your sound device and the problem persists, you are experiencing another issue and this fix will not work for you. i would suggest starting a new thread specific to your problem for the best results, this is not really a general lag thread.

 

[Ozirus]

I get alot of LAG when I play, "Left 4 Dead" and "Left 4 Dead 2".

I get a high ping on single player ~ 55 ms and alot of slow motion.

I installed Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit three days ago.

They both worked fine on Vista Home Premium 32-bit.

I guess I'm new at the whole 64-bit thing!

 

[qberty]

i registered just to help those who still have problems and dont wanna turn of MMCSS.

at The Bits 2.0 Disabling/Tweaking Vista’s Multimedia Class Scheduler that the thread makers linked to says "Double click on “NetworkThrottlingIndex“. To disable completely, enter FFFFFF with base hexadecimal." Thats 6 "F" not 8.


so it should say: 0x00ffffff


that worked for me!

 

[Ozirus]

Cool. I just tried that. What was the default value? I entered the 8 Fs yesterday, and can't remember seeing anything but the letter "a" before I changed it.

 

[qberty]

10 is the default value i think.

 

[gunners]

OK,after much head butting my lag seems to be all fixed.

Disabling network throttling did not help me, nor did disabling aero/other visuals in windows 7.

What did the trick for me was to open task manager, and set the Steam priority to low. So easy, yet so annoying when you don't know about it. After doing this, all lag in steam based games seems to have disappeared.

 

[PapaSmurf2413]

I actually made an account on this website to say how grateful I am that your method worked pinstripe. Seriously, great job figuring out the problem and I really appreciate being able to play my favorite game again. Thanks so much. Worked like a CHARM.

 

[pinstripe]

at The Bits 2.0 Disabling/Tweaking Vista’s Multimedia Class Scheduler that the thread makers linked to says "Double click on “NetworkThrottlingIndex“. To disable completely, enter FFFFFF with base hexadecimal." Thats 6 "F" not 8.

I'm glad that worked for you, but that article has a typo. Microsoft specifically mentions it is, in fact, 8 Fs. How to use the throttling mechanism to control network performance in Windows Vista. Thank you for noticing this, I will add this article to the OP and remove the one with the typo.

Thanks guys for the feedback that this is solving some problems!

 

[silverharrison]

Hi, I have the same problems that everyone else on here seems to be having, but I'm a bit nervous about editing my registry because my default hex value is a and my defualt decimal value is 10. which should i change?

 

[Ozirus]

Hi, I have the same problems that everyone else on here seems to be having, but I'm a bit nervous about editing my registry because my default hex value is a and my defualt decimal value is 10. which should i change?

The default HEX value is "a"? Are you 100% sure? I need to know so that I can restore mine back to default. Just in case.

None of these methods worked for me. Disabling my audio in device manager is the only thing that has worked.

I'm going to try the FFFFFFFF method again.

 

[qberty]

10 is default, it even says that in the How to use the throttling mechanism to control network performance in Windows Vista

anyway if 6 Fs is wrong, what did i then do? :O the The Bits 2.0 Disabling/Tweaking Vista’s Multimedia Class Scheduler also says that u can increase packets through per second from 10 (Default) to lets say 100 000. Dont know if that's a good thing though?

 

[silverharrison]

The default HEX value is "a"? Are you 100% sure? I need to know so that I can restore mine back to default. Just in case.
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The value i had for hex was "a" when i first opened the networkthrottleindex yeah.

 

[Ozirus]

The default HEX value is "a"? Are you 100% sure? I need to know so that I can restore mine back to default. Just in case.
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The value i had for hex was "a" when i first opened the networkthrottleindex yeah.

Cool. Thanks.

I still get LAG unless I disable my Audio in Device Manager.

 

[pinstripe]

"A" in hex is equal to 10 in decimal.

@qberty: I suspect you solved the problem by creating a really high limit of packets that could go through without being throttled.

@silverharrison: change the hex, that is the "a" you are seeing.

@Ozirus: Go back in and double check that there are 8 Fs in the registry entry, reboot. If there is still lag, try disabling the MMCSS service and see what happens.