Solved Macrium

[whs]

USB3 is so new that there is probably no support yet - especially in the Linux recovery program. This is ashame because the USB3 would lend itself particularily well for imaging. But I am sure given time, we will get it.
But if I understand you right, the image was initially written to the USB3 disk - right?

Would be interesting to know whether Win7 imaging supports it. Maybe jmf knows.

 

[N2Abyss]

Yes Wolfgang, the drive has no problems saving the backup image through the 3.0 usb connection, Maybe its Linux that doesn't get along well with 3.0?
Bret

 

[whs]

Yes Wolfgang, the drive has no problems saving the backup image through the 3.0 usb connection, Maybe its Linux that doesn't get along well with 3.0?
Bret

I think you are right. Linux is behind the times. Next week I get a new laptop with USB3. I guess I will experiment - also with Windows imaging. They probably do not use Linux but their own scheme (maybe BartPE). From the recovery disk I could not figure it out.

 

[Maxxwire]

Next week I get a new laptop with USB3. I guess I will experiment - also with Windows imaging.

I'm very much looking forward to hearing about your experience Imaging with using USB3!

~Maxx~

 

[whs]

Next week I get a new laptop with USB3. I guess I will experiment - also with Windows imaging.

I'm very much looking forward to hearing about your experience Imaging with using USB3!

~Maxx~

Well, as Bret says, the imaging part (with Macrium) seems to work. It's the Linux recovery CD that gives. Maybe the BartPE would work. Maybe SIW2 knows.

 

[SIW2]

Linux o/s is not behind the times.

It is just that Paramount haven't built usb 3.0 support into the free boot disc yet.

They soon will.

 

[N2Abyss]

Good for me, that the new USB3 system I purchased is backward compatible!
Bret

 

[whs]

Linux o/s is not behind the times.

It is just that Paramount haven't built usb 3.0 support into the free boot disc yet.

They soon will.

Thanks Siw, that is good to know. So in the interim we will image with USB3 and restore with USB2. Progress is coming - slowly.

 

[Maxxwire]

Well, as Bret says, the imaging part (with Macrium) seems to work.

I'm also wondering if USB3 is as fast as eSATA when Imaging with Macrium Reflect...

~Maxx~

 

[whs]

I'm also wondering if USB3 is as fast as eSATA when Imaging with Macrium Reflect

USB 3 first benchmark – it’s here, and it’s fast | PC Pro blog

 

[Maxxwire]

whs- Thanks for the specs, but as we all know maximum R&W benchmark specs and the actual bandwidth that an interface operates at in use on a computer are much different. For example USB 2 has usually always operated at <1/3 of its rated bandwidth on my computer which is why I'd be interested in seeing an actual screenshot of an Image backup being made with Reflect while using USB 3.

~Maxx~

 

[whs]

I will make one in a couple of weeks when I have my new Laptop up and running. Remind me then.
Btw: those were real test figures.

 

[N2Abyss]

With my ASUS pcie usb3 card and the Iomega eGo usb3 drive, I'm getting an average transfer rate of 397.9 mb/s. with 37.1 gb of the C: drive data being imaged in around 5.5 minutes.
Which now leads me to believe the Macrium software is not utilizing the full potential of the backup media system?
Bret

 

[Maxxwire]

With my ASUS pcie usb3 card and the Iomega eGo usb3 drive, I'm getting an average transfer rate of 397.9 mb/s. with 37.1 gb of the C: drive data being imaged in around 5.5 minutes.
Which now leads me to believe the Macrium software is not utilizing the full potential of the backup media system?
Bret

Reflect only uses about 1/2 as much potential speed as my LaCie eSATA drive shows on benchmarks.

~Maxx~

 

[Golden]

Hi All,

Been following this topic with interest and decided to give Macrium a quick twirl. I have a few questions:

1. Im interested in imaging my C: drive - this contains my OS and Apps. When I select the drive, do I also need to select the 100MB System Reserved Partition? It appaers to be slightly greyed out, so I'm guessing (without actually trying it) that I can't actually select it, and don't need to?

2. Assuming I can successfully image my C: drive (and create a Linux boot disk), can I reintsall the image to a brand new SSD that has never been used? Is it better to install fresh to an SSD the long way, or does the image restoration do just as good a job : note, this is a brand new SSD, nothing has yet been installed on it.

As you can guess, Im moving from HDD's to SSD's, and wonder whether a fresh installation is the way to go, or whether image restoration is just as good. This is a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 system.

What say you?
Golden

 

[whs]

Hi All,

Been following this topic with interest and decided to give Macrium a quick twirl. I have a few questions:

1. Im interested in imaging my C: drive - this contains my OS and Apps. When I select the drive, do I also need to select the 100MB System Reserved Partition? It appaers to be slightly greyed out, so I'm guessing (without actually trying it) that I can't actually select it, and don't need to?

2. Assuming I can successfully image my C: drive (and create a Linux boot disk), can I reintsall the image to a brand new SSD that has never been used? Is it better to install fresh to an SSD the long way, or does the image restoration do just as good a job : note, this is a brand new SSD, nothing has yet been installed on it.

As you can guess, Im moving from HDD's to SSD's, and wonder whether a fresh installation is the way to go, or whether image restoration is just as good. This is a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 system.

What say you?
Golden

ad1) I suggest to image the 100MB partition only once and keep it in a seperate folder - just in case. That partition really never changes (unless you decide e.g. for a double boot) and need not be imaged every time.
But yes, you can image several partitions together but recover only one at a time (for good reason)

ad2) yes you can do that. But there are a few things you have to remember:

1. free Macrium can only recover to a partition of equal or larger size. So your imaged partition must have been equal or smaller in size thn the SSD - and I mean partition, not actual data or size of the image.
If you want to install an image of a big partition to a smaller SSD, you need Macrium Pro, but free Paragon can do that too

2. You first need to define a partition primary (for the active partition) on the SSD and align that. Here is how. When you do a fresh install of Win7, the installer does that for you. With the 100MB partition present, it gets a bit messy. It is a little easier with the Win7 imaging in that case because it drags the 100MB partition along. I am not sure though how Win7 imaging deals with recovery of a "large" partition to a "small" SSD.

Bottom line, it is easier if you did a fresh installation provided you have the installation disk. However, the imaging path is the best way to go if you have a preinstalled OEM operating system and no installation disk.

 

[SIW2]

Paragon sent me an app. called Migrate to ssd - haven't tried it yet, but it looks good.

Paragon Migrate OS to SSD - Overview

 

[whs]

Paragon sent me an app. called Migrate to ssd - haven't tried it yet, but it looks good.

Paragon Migrate OS to SSD - Overview

That looks good, but they want $20 for it. I wonder whether the Win7 native imaging would not do the same thing (because they drag the 10MB partition along). If it was not for the 100MB partition, any old imaging program should do.

 

[SIW2]

Not exactly, the Paragon app. will migrate to a smaller ssd or HD , and let you exclude folders, as well as aligning during the migration.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

SIW and WHS:

Is there an over-riding reason NOT to image from an HDD to an SSD when migrating to SSD technology---rather than doing a clean install to the SSD?

I will be facing this issue within months. I have an install disc and have always done clean installs, but if I can get by with imaging, why not?

I have seen people imply clean is preferred, but is imaging more problematic when the destination is SSD rather than HDD? Any problems other than possibly alignment--which I understand can be corrected after the fact?

I do NOT have the 100 MB system partition.

I would likely use Macrium Free, but have access to Acronis as well.