Massive Heat

[Wiredsoul]

I have a very annoying issue my graphics display drivers always seem to fail when I run graphically intense games, games like Dawn of war soulstorm and basically any none graphically instense games I can run for a very long time no problem I've gone a full 8 hours without a problem, but when I play GTA 4 Dawn of 2 Crysis at full settings my graphics card gives out alot of heat, were talking heat coming out of the vents in my case like crazy, now I was just wondering I have an obsidian 800D and only have two case fans and the cpu is stock cooled, if I had some more fans would it remedy the situation or am I looking at a bigger problem?

 

[mickey megabyte]

ayou could increase case ventilation, but as you say, there's a deeper issue that really needs addressing and diagnosing, rather than simply masking up the symptoms by blowing the hot air away.

is this a new card, has it only started doing this, only after installing new drivers, for example?

is the fan working correctly on the gfx card itself?

 

[SlackerITGuy]

I have a very annoying issue my graphics display drivers always seem to fail when I run graphically intense games, games like Dawn of war soulstorm and basically any none graphically instense games I can run for a very long time no problem I've gone a full 8 hours without a problem, but when I play GTA 4 Dawn of 2 Crysis at full settings my graphics card gives out alot of heat, were talking heat coming out of the vents in my case like crazy, now I was just wondering I have an obsidian 800D and only have two case fans and the cpu is stock cooled, if I had some more fans would it remedy the situation or am I looking at a bigger problem?

Well, the heat part of your problem is nothing out of the ordinary to be quite honest.

The HD 5970 is supposed to run somewhat hot, getting up to ~80 Celsius with ease.

Now, the inability to run graphically intense games, that's the part I'd be worried about, it could be 3 things:

• PSU problem
• Faulty card
• Drivers (EVERY post/thread/etc I've ran into, about anything HD 5970 related, has said that 10.5a + latest CAP's = best combo for HD 5970, every other driver/CAP setup = fail).

 

[ccatlett1984]

i have no issues with my setup. What are your cpu temps when you start having issues?

 

[A Guy]

You can use ATI Tray Tools to stress test the GPU, and find a stable clock rate. Not sure if you can lower stock clocks, as I have nVidia myself.

ATI Tray Tools

You can also ask at their Forum

Make sure you monitor GPU temps while doing any testing.

A Guy

 

[Wiredsoul]

Alright, he is some more information I think it might be something with the drivers because I was playing battle forge and half way through the tutorial it just froze and sent me back to my desktop where i got an error message that said driver can no longer display and then it simply stopped. working completely, not sure if that is exactly what the error said, but it was defintely something about the drivers. Oh and my cpu temps are usually at aroudn 60~70 degrees C but I do plan on getting I much better cpu cooler thats for sure. About the graphics card it's an Asus ares and i would think that the double copper blocks would handle the heat better.:huh:

 

[Hopalong X]

It could be the drivers or the CPU getting hot or the graphics card.

Read the below. Make the report and post it on the Crashes and Debugging section. They can check the system and give you specific recommendations. I know you aren't having BSOD yet but it has info they can use to assess your system as the games are crashing.
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/96879-blue-screen-death-bsod-posting-instructions.html

 

[Wiredsoul]

Alright I think i got the problem down and as for the report I was alittle unclear how to run it, because when i type perfmon/ report only a blank search result, but well i found these to be every interesting my CPUTIN temps are at at 72C isn't that rather high?

 

[Wiredsoul]

quick update I noticed when I run a graphically intense game the CPUTIn goes up to 85~90 and that was on a not so intense battle, is this enough info for me to take it as a bad cpu fan?:huh:

 

[NeroDevil]

That sounds quite deadly...CPU's should normally be around 55-60 degrees when under load. Indeed it could be a fan aging but also it could indicate a faulty CPU. Also if this CPU is newly installed, did you apply the correct amount of Thermal Paste? (approx. the size of a grain of rice should suffice)

 

[LiquidSnak]

That's very vague, as rice goes from short grain to long grain. I always recommend a thin, even layer, avoiding all trapped air possible. That temperature is way too high, as on Intel's website, the max of the CPU case max temp is 67.9 °C, and the core max temp is 72.9°C.

 

[Hopalong X]

The CPU cooler is possibly full of dust.

There is too much paste between cooler and CPU. You barely need to see as thin as film as possible on one surface. I prefer doing the CPU. That is what needs a full layer. A single drop closer to the size of a BB than a green pea.

Fan is dying.

 

[Wiredsoul]

Oh, man that is definitely a problem, as when I was applying the thermal paste I placed alot on the cpu im talking full cover on the cpu surface. Is that cause for immediate action should I just shut down the pc till I get a better cooler? Right now my CPUtin is at 39 C degrees.

 

[Hopalong X]

You can take the CPU cooler off and redo the thermal compound.

Use kleenex or soft cloth to wipe off all old compound. Kleenex wipe off and toss when it gets 30-40% gray.
Very gentle on the CPU.
Might take 4 or 5 kleenex to do CPU.
I prefer kleenex over paper towels they are softer.
I never use alcohol. Yet if bad enough dampen the kleenex first then rub as in video.
Use a VERY small amount of alcohol as you go if needed.

Leave the CPU on the mobo to do this. Why take a chance bending the pins removing and replacing on mobo.

My speakers aren't hooked up so pay attention to video not audio.

 

[Hopalong X]

This is the best video I found for application. Jerky but the end result shot is a nice thin layer.
As you can see it takes a tiny amount to go a long way.
If you get done and it looks like too much wipe off a dab with a dry kleenex and respread what is left on CPU.

 

[LiquidSnak]

Decent video, not bad. I actually prefer for my electronics work, since cotton balls are the accepted standard, to use cotton squares, available anywhere that sells makeup and whatnot. They are made for removing nail polish, so they are resilient, but soft and comfy like a cotton ball.

 

[Hopalong X]

LS

Main thing no paper towels. LOL

Best I could find on You Tube.
Seemed like a video might help the most.
I watched about 20 to get these two.

Mike

 

[LiquidSnak]

Usually does. I used to create videos for people all the time, but my camera is dead, and I haven't bothered to replace it lol.

But yes, no paper towels.

 

[sygnus21]

Not a bad video. I myself prefer the spread method where you put a pea sized dab in the middle of the CPU and let the heatsink spread the paste.

I've actually tried various methods and found they all pretty much give the same results as long as you don't apply too much paste.

The other issue is to make sure the heatsink is properly installed. If you use those stock heatsinks with those plastic clips, make sure they're fully seated or they'll come lose!

 

[Hopalong X]

Large pea or small.
Even a petit pois pea is too much compound. Smaller than a pea but bigger than a BB.
Mike