memory leak problems,at least i think so

[hectic1]

ok so when i install something like a game or some programs
my memory usage is insane ,i got 2gb of ram,i had to use x64 version of windows 7 cause i play some games with gameguard
my cpu is e6750 oc'ed to 3,4ghz 8600gts graphics card
i usualy use 1gb of ram -1,3 1,5 while multitasking but when install a game i can't do anything else and it takes like 30 mins it uses all my ram if im lucky i got like 90 mb free...,same game that use to take me 5 min to install on win 7 build 7000 32bit
oh and even after i finally finish installing it takes a while for my ram to free up,IF that even happens,sometimes i have no choice but to reboot
this also happened while using opera's built in torrent feature,utorrent seams to work fine,but i still notice that after a period of time i have to restart that program cause my system becomes laggy
now i don't know what to do,i need 64bit cause i wana play games with gameguard but this problem is kinda messed up,im wondering if i'll still have it with build 7600 or should i just get it with 32 bit?
i don't know any reasons why this is happening to me,tried searching for this problem on the net and no luck
if there's any way to fix it or advice on what should i do,i very much appreciate,cause i really need some help over here
ill give any info you guys need

 

[zigzag3143]

ok so when i install something like a game or some programs
my memory usage is insane ,i got 2gb of ram,i had to use x64 version of windows 7 cause i play some games with gameguard
my cpu is e6750 oc'ed to 3,4ghz 8600gts graphics card
i usualy use 1gb of ram -1,3 1,5 while multitasking but when install a game i can't do anything else and it takes like 30 mins it uses all my ram if im lucky i got like 90 mb free...,same game that use to take me 5 min to install on win 7 build 7000 32bit
oh and even after i finally finish installing it takes a while for my ram to free up,IF that even happens,sometimes i have no choice but to reboot
this also happened while using opera's built in torrent feature,utorrent seams to work fine,but i still notice that after a period of time i have to restart that program cause my system becomes laggy
now i don't know what to do,i need 64bit cause i wana play games with gameguard but this problem is kinda messed up,im wondering if i'll still have it with build 7600 or should i just get it with 32 bit?
i don't know any reasons why this is happening to me,tried searching for this problem on the net and no luck
if there's any way to fix it or advice on what should i do,i very much appreciate,cause i really need some help over here
ill give any info you guys need

If you cannot upgrade your ram you really, really shouldn't be running 64 bit. Its the absolute minimum and will get eaten for breakfast if you do any gaming.

Opera's fine, Utorrent is fine, but without ram anything that runs for any period of time is going to become laggy.

If I were you I would run 64 and upgrade the ram

Ken

 

[hectic1]

yah but,it's not the programs using the ram,there's absolutely no proccess indicating use of that much ram,i can play anything on this machine.. cause i oc my stuff alot i even played gta4 on medium settings never ever got under 30 frames/sec while playing it,and it never used more than 1,7gb of ram no game or program ever used above that,but while installing the damn thing you wouldn't believe how slow my pc was,couldn't even move the freeking cursor right,i know i would need more ram normaly but it's not this problem i am having
edit: even if i had 6gb of ram same thing would happen,you know if i multitask and use all my ram as i am doing now to test it,my pc is not running that slow not even near that,something happens whit my cpu too i think

 

[zigzag3143]

yah but,it's not the programs using the ram,there's absolutely no proccess indicating use of that much ram,i can play anything on this machine.. cause i oc my stuff alot i even played gta4 on medium settings never ever got under 30 frames/sec while playing it,and it never used more than 1,7gb of ram no game or program ever used above that,but while installing the damn thing you wouldn't believe how slow my pc was,couldn't even move the freeking cursor right,i know i would need more ram normaly but it's not this problem i am having

OK so what problem are you having?

Ken

 

[hectic1]

that's just it i don't know,this never even happened to me on vista x64(i had it just to see how it is)
im thinking on trying to install the newer build on 64bit see if i still got that problem,if so ill go 32bit till i get more ram,

 

[zigzag3143]

that's just it i don't know,this never even happened to me on vista x64(i had it just to see how it is)
im thinking on trying to install the newer build on 64bit see if i still got that problem,if so ill go 32bit till i get more ram,

Certainly newer build will not use more ram, and there are less bugs and more drivers in it.

Ken

 

[hectic1]

or better yet i'm dual boot x64 and x86 then i'll be able to observe performance and decide on what to keep cause other than this win 7 is just better for me,i like it more than linux than xp or anything

 

[Zen00]

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between x64 and x86?

 

[zigzag3143]

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between x64 and x86?

Zen

64bit has double the memory path, is faster, and is the future. The down side to 64bit is more difficulty in drivers, more heat, and some apps are not yet written in 64 bit (like adobe). If I was a graphic artist I would want 64bit, as a fairly demanding home use I would enjoy its benifits, but alas my computer will not run it

Ken

 

[Zen00]

That works for me then, thanks. Was x86 the old 32-bit thing?

 

[smarteyeball]

x86 is x32 - the x86 is a reference to the old chip architecture naming (ie 086/286/386/486/586)

 

[zigzag3143]

That works for me then, thanks. Was x86 the old 32-bit thing?

Yep 86 as in 386, 486, etc

 

[Zen00]

Thanks guys, that kinda confused me. I've not run into it before, this is my first 64-bit machine.

 

[hectic1]

there are some downsides to having 64bits like what i noticed is more disk activity,i would wanna get a 10.000 rpm one along with more ram,even tough my hardisk is prob better than some old "faster" hardisks around

 

[zigzag3143]

there are some downsides to having 64bits like what i noticed is more disk activity,i would wanna get a 10.000 rpm one along with more ram,even tough my hardisk is prob better than some old "faster" hardisks around

While 64 bit does seem to do more disk activity it really isn't. In fact if you have enough ram you can virtually elimintate the page file

 

[hectic1]

i don't mean the pagefile tough it's moving larger chunks of data supperfetch or whatever it was called would make it slower,it's pretty cool that u can remove ur pagefile but that's if you have a lot of ram,like 6-8gb not 4 most pple don't have more than 4gb,or some buy cheap ass ram,thinking it's gonna make their pc faster and i can smoke their ass with 2gb
oh and on win 7 things are a bit diff than vista or xp,it doesn't use double the ram on 64bit apps,don't know how but mem usage is just alittle bigger

 

[Zen00]

Here's a question about RAM usage. Whenever I look at my performance monitor, it shows me using a little less than a gig of RAM at any given time. So, I have 4gb of RAM, what can I do with all that extra RAM that's not being used?

 

[chev65]

Here's a question about RAM usage. Whenever I look at my performance monitor, it shows me using a little less than a gig of RAM at any given time. So, I have 4gb of RAM, what can I do with all that extra RAM that's not being used?

Ram usage depends greatly on the application that is running. Some applications will use all your Ram others only need a little. Video editing or transcoding type of work will use all you have or can even use 8GB or more. Certain games and other apps don't use as much but still benifit from having the 3GB available when they are running.

That extra Ram saves your applications and programs from having to access the harddrive to retreive instructions over and over again. It's much faster to get the instructions from the Ram rather than having your system access the harddrive all the time.

 

[zigzag3143]

Here's a question about RAM usage. Whenever I look at my performance monitor, it shows me using a little less than a gig of RAM at any given time. So, I have 4gb of RAM, what can I do with all that extra RAM that's not being used?

Zen

Great question every one wants to know how to use less, and rightly you want to use more. You could play games, open double the apps, donate cpu cycles to some distributed computing app, or whatever you like

 

[chev65]

i don't mean the pagefile tough it's moving larger chunks of data supperfetch or whatever it was called would make it slower,it's pretty cool that u can remove ur pagefile but that's if you have a lot of ram,like 6-8gb not 4 most pple don't have more than 4gb,or some buy cheap ass ram,thinking it's gonna make their pc faster and i can smoke their ass with 2gb
oh and on win 7 things are a bit diff than vista or xp,it doesn't use double the ram on 64bit apps,don't know how but mem usage is just alittle bigger

Where I agree that cheap Ram is hardly worth buying using 4GB can speed up many programs and make life much easier on you. You ain't smokin me with your 2GB Ram LOL.

As for the advantages of using a 64 bit OP system. 64-bit deals with how your computer works with the data it is given, called words.

Words (which are composed of a piece of data, instructions to manipulate that data or both) are the key to computing. As such, the size of word that a computer's system allows can greatly alter how quickly it can process data and how accurate that data is - the larger the word, the more information that can be passed through a processor in every clock cycle, or the more transformations that can be performed on that data.