Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 Beta?

[AlexT2889]

I've been using Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 since the day it was officially launched (Connect Beta Tester). I have been getting maybe 3 to 5 Updates daily if I manually checked for them but the updates would always be 5 hours behind from the time I checked for them to show up on Windows Update or through MSE Update mechanisms. The last Definitions Update I have received was on August 7th at 4:46PM (1.63.1134.0)...after that? NOTHING a whole day with NO updates and it is 1:02AM here now where a new Midnight Update is usually expected but still nothing. Is Microsoft readying the Release Candidate for MSE or something? I check Connect and I still get the Beta download.

What is the timeline for MSE anyway? June 2009 for Beta>RC?>RTM?:huh:

 

[Dinesh]

I guess that's normal. many AV updates itself 3-5 times a day. September was supposed to be the launch month.

 

[benstevensuk]

is it possible to get the beta in the uk yet? im still using free trials as im a paid user of onecare. there must be something for us to use on win 7 soon.

 

[Dinesh]

The beta has stopped for now. Wait for about a month or so, and the official launch will be near.

 

[AlexT2889]

I still haven't gotten any new updates since Aug 7th. What's going on? is anyone else still getting Definition Updates?

 

[swarfega]

Well Ive just had a 2nd questionnaire for testing:

Dear Beta User,
Thank you for joining the Microsoft® Security Essentials Beta. We hope you found Security Essentials to be easy to install and use.
As part of the Microsoft® Security Essentials Beta, we would like to hear about your overall experience regarding Security Essentials by taking a short survey at: https://connect.microsoft.com/securityessentials/Survey/Survey.aspx?SurveyID=9218

Thanks again for participating in the Microsoft Security Essentials Beta.
Best regards,
Microsoft Security Essentials Team

 

[Dorfdad]

While I was excited about this I have to say I removed it from my pc and ive never been happier!

Using this on X64 has caused more weird problems for me after multiple installations. Yes it's a beta but when operating with a new system and trying to work out the kinks adding another BETA on top of that especially one that touches everything is asking for madness.

I was getting lockups, crashes, and other little issues until I removed it. Now Im using ESET and im happy as a pig in mud..

 

[swarfega]

not had any issues myself.

 

[Kipper]

Seems to be updating for me.

 

[Jarhead57]

Seems to be updating for me.

Same here, still updating for me

 

[Lee]

My updated this morning (see picture).

 

[AlexT2889]

I've gotten 3 updates so far now, kinda weird when Microsoft pushes 5 updates a day at 3.2MB each, and suddenly stop for 2 days.

 

[johngalt]

lmfao - we're in America - we like our weekends off. You should know that - in some areas of the US it was a great weekend to go driving around....

 

[AlexT2889]

LOL yea, but I've been using MSE since Beta launch and never had a day go unchecked, sadly, I have no car and no insurance so, nothing better to do than tweak with Windows all day all night

 

[johngalt]

It was rather strange, I'll admit - I checked manually on Sat and Sun to be sure, but nothing showed, so I just shrugged and moved on....

 

[AlexT2889]

One thing Microsoft needs to fix is how Windows Update handles the new style of Definition Updates for MSE. Since they push 5 or less updates a day, Windows Update should automatically push and download/install them without manually checking every few hours. What's the point of using MSE if you're 4 layers of protection behind everyday until that time you specified in the settings?

 

[johngalt]

WU *does* notify me about the updates - all the time. However, I find that if I have M$SE active also, WU tends to butt heads with M$SE, to the point that if I see WU listing an update for M$SE I open M$SE and manually install.

TBH, I think that M$SE should not, in fact, use WU, but its own update engine - it can be based on WU, but not not actually using it. That way it is easier to configure checking for updates for M$SE separately 9and at an increased frequency) to allow the app to stay as up to date as possible, without causing your OS much havoc.

 

[AlexT2889]

Hmm, interesting, I never get the WU icon on taskbar for MSE updates.

I do know that MSE and WU buttheads with eachother, like I check for updates then it fails till I realize MSE is already downloading/updating then I recheck WU and it's completed.. .

MSE definitely should use it's own update engine, I wonder if that's what Microsoft has in store for the final version or not... hmmmm.

 

[Tews]

Absolutely flawless here... updated at 11:30am today for me...but Im using 32bit w7 .. if that makes a difference...

 

[darkassain]

WU *does* notify me about the updates - all the time. However, I find that if I have M$SE active also, WU tends to butt heads with M$SE, to the point that if I see WU listing an update for M$SE I open M$SE and manually install.

TBH, I think that M$SE should not, in fact, use WU, but its own update engine - it can be based on WU, but not not actually using it. That way it is easier to configure checking for updates for M$SE separately 9and at an increased frequency) to allow the app to stay as up to date as possible, without causing your OS much havoc.

while that is true remember this is based on the Forefront techonology which is also WUSUS based...
the difference though is that there is no server to manage the updates (which is how you can update them constantly without bugging the user about the those updates...)

Hmm, interesting, I never get the WU icon on taskbar for MSE updates.

I do know that MSE and WU buttheads with eachother, like I check for updates then it fails till I realize MSE is already downloading/updating then I recheck WU and it's completed.. .

MSE definitely should use it's own update engine, I wonder if that's what Microsoft has in store for the final version or not... hmmmm.

i think Microsoft wants to use the WUSUS instead of its own (look at its Antispyware and AntiMalware Agents, they all use in some form WUSUS...)
while you can in Forefront check for updates without opening WUSUS (you can also make sure it updates itself before scanning for anything (and that includes automatic scanning)...)

i do hope they do include a automatic update service (i haven't check Morro out enough to tell if updates Automatically every so often) and it really does not matter if it uses WUSUS or not as long as it updates often (although i can see it be a headache on Patch Tuesday....)