Solved Microsoft Security Essentials Acting Strange

[powderday]

Hello All,

I am running MSE on my Windows 7 machine - It has been working fine, up until two days ago -

The Icon is amber, as opposed to the usual green when everything is humming along nicely-

When I open it, the top banner says:
PC Status: Potentially Unprotected

However, the checks marks below affirm that 1) Real Time Protection is ON
and 2) Virus and spyware definitions are up to date -

I have run several Quick scans, and a Full scan last night (always scheduled for Sunday's at 1 am) :
>> The results of ALL of those scans say: No threats were detected on your PC during scan:
However, under that is a message that states:
You haven't run a scan on your PC for a while. This could put your PC at risk ( ???!!! - Really, I just ran several in the past 24 hours!!!)

Something is strange here: can anyone please enlighten me as to what the issue(s) may be?? -
It leaves me with an unsettled feeling, as you can appreciate, I am sure-

Thank you for all suggestions/help, I am grateful -

 

[michael diemer]

Sorry nobody has responded. I would try reinstalling MSE.

 

[Bree]

I am running MSE on my Windows 7 machine - It has been working fine, up until two days ago -
The Icon is amber, as opposed to the usual green when everything is humming along nicely-
...the checks marks below affirm that
1) Real Time Protection is ON and
2) Virus and spyware definitions are up to date

How up to date?

This may be just a coincidence, but neither Windows Update or checking for updates in MSE can find anything newer than 1.423.125.0 from three days ago.



Manually installing the latest definitions from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates gets this:

Definitions created on: 01/03/2025 at 10:21
Virus definition version: 1.423.180.0

 

[SIW2]

Windows Update or checking for updates in MSE can find anything newer than 1.423.125.0 from three days ago.

1.423.180 on mine. Is something wrong with your system?

 

[torchwood]

mines on 182

 

[michael diemer]

Just updated on my W7 to:
3/1/25, 11:51 am

Definitions: 1.423.184.0

MSE specs:

Clinet Version: 4.10.209.0

Engine: 1.1.25010.7

 

[Bree]

1.423.180 on mine. Is something wrong with your system?

It's a real puzzle. I have four Win7 machines, two are VMs and two are the laptops in my specs below. Of the four, three of them don't find any AV update beyond 1.423.125.0, while one of the laptops (System One) always finds the latest update. This when checking for updates in Windows Update and in MSE. The three can be manually updated though.

 

[michael diemer]

It's a real puzzle. I have four Win7 machines, two are VMs and two are the laptops in my specs below. Of the four, three of them don't find any AV update beyond 1.423.125.0, while one of the laptops (System One) always finds the latest update. This when checking for updates in Windows Update and in MSE. The three can be manually updated though.

I also have found that on some machines, only a manual update works, while on others MSE is still able to update itself.
fortunately, manual updating always works.

 

[Bree]

I also have found that on some machines, only a manual update works, while on others MSE is still able to update itself.
fortunately, manual updating always works.

Thanks, I was beginning to think it was just me

 

[andreaerdna]

I also have the same issue on Windows 7 Home 64bit

Versione client antimalware: 4.10.209.0Versione motore: 1.1.25010.7Definizione antivirus: 1.423.125.0Definizione antispyware: 1.423.125.0Versione motore Network Inspection System: 2.1.14600.4Versione definizione Network Inspection System: 119.0.0.0

Downloading and installing "Microsoft Security Essentials" 64-bit from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates updates the virus definitions.

Versione client antimalware: 4.10.209.0Versione motore: 1.1.25010.7Definizione antivirus: 1.423.242.0Definizione antispyware: 1.423.242.0Versione motore Network Inspection System: 2.1.14600.4Versione definizione Network Inspection System: 119.0.0.0

Does this mean I will always manually download the virus definition from now on?

Andrea

 

[Bree]

I also have the same issue on Windows 7 Home 64bit...
...Does this mean I will always manually download the virus definition from now on?

I'm afraid so, that's what I do now.

 

[michael diemer]

andreaerdna said:

"I also have the same issue on Windows 7 Home 64bit...

...Does this mean I will always manually download the virus definition from now on?"


It's worth it. Same definitions as Windows 10/11, for free.

 

[Willmarth]

Thanks Andrea

Thanks for the tip on how to manually update security essentials. I am still using a Windows 7 machine I built 14 years ago that I use as an HTPC with a cable card and (knock on wood) it still runs like a champ. Thanks again,

 

[powderday]

Hi All - I originally generated this post 2 weeks ago - I thought I had resolved this issue, yet here I am again back to square one wit the same issue everyone is having - I was away for a few days, and up[on my return, my MSE has not been updated since 2/27/25 - going on 8 days now - I took the advice of one fella, Unistalled MSE, and then went about installing it again, straight the designated Microsoft website page- HOWEVER, this time, after running the .exe file, it just disappears, nowhere to be found, not listed under installed programs, nothing!! WTF! Anyhow,l so as to have some type of defense, I re-activated Windows Defender - not thrilled with it, but better than nothing-
Can anyone please help me get MSE back on my machine: per other folks advice, I don't mind updating manually if that's what it takes, it's just that I trust MSE - please let em know your thoughts on this quagmire I/we are in - Thank you kindly!!

- - - Updated - - -

By way of update, I was able to get MSE re-installed, and it is currently running a quick scan -
As per other folks advice, I will manually update MSE - Normally, my machine informs me that there is an update available, usually everyday, then I grant permission to install it -
Now This may sound silly, yet how do I manually update MSE??- Please advise, thanks!

 

[Willmarth]

Powderday response

Use the following link and you'll find this list of exe files that contain updated definitions. Download and run. This worked for me on the 5th and when I checked on the 6th there were no new definitions: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates

[TABLE="width: 705"]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Defender Antivirus for Windows 11, Windows 10, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit | ARM[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Security Essentials[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Windows Defender in Windows 7 and Windows Vista[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset (DaRT)[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]System Center 2012 Configuration Manager[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Windows Intune[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I just tried again and updated with the March 6th definitions. It looks like I'll be downloading the Windows Security Essentials exe daily from now on until the automatic update feature begins working again (fingers crossed.)

 

[powderday]

Followed your advice, and I am told my system is now protected and definitions are up to date!!

Thank you kind sir!

 

[sluggerb]

Had same issue here. When I ran the Update check, it just never came back with anything. I downloaded the update manually, ran it (odd there is no screen or any UI element telling you it is running) and a few moments later MSE turned green and I was updated

Is https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates always the URL to check for MSE updates?

 

[razorboy]

Use the following link and you'll find this list of exe files that contain updated definitions. Download and run. This worked for me on the 5th and when I checked on the 6th there were no new definitions: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/defenderupdates

[TABLE="width: 705"]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Defender Antivirus for Windows 11, Windows 10, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit | ARM[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Security Essentials[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Windows Defender in Windows 7 and Windows Vista[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Microsoft Diagnostics and Recovery Toolset (DaRT)[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]System Center 2012 Configuration Manager[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Windows Intune[/TD]
[TD]32-bit | 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I just tried again and updated with the March 6th definitions. It looks like I'll be downloading the Windows Security Essentials exe daily from now on until the automatic update feature begins working again (fingers crossed.)

Thank you very much for that. I downloaded Microsoft Security Essentials, 64 bit, ran it, and MSE updated.

 

[patternbuffered]

Possible fix to restore MSE autoupdates - folks on Reddit are having luck with this solution using EasyFix (I haven't tried it yet):
(from https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/1j4t2er/end_of_support/)

EasyFix download link:
https://download.microsoft.com/down...F-BC2C-D69E5B9E9A68/MicrosoftEasyFix51044.msi

 

[SGvagon]

EasyFix really works ! After install I can check for new definitions in MSE itself again, after many years :-D !