Solved Microsoft Security Essentials Final Available!

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I was running NIS 2010 (which is pretty good) but since I reinstalled windows last week I have switched to MS Forefront for 7 and MSE for XP Mode. To be honest MSE is quite impressive for being free and even though Forefront seems a little older GUI-wise they seem to use the same definitions so the engines must be the same. They are both quick and light on resources, though I'll give Forefront the slight edge. Worth looking into MSE if you want to save some $$ and don't mind loosing some features of the all-in-ones :cool:


I've used ForeFront for about 1½ years now, but switched to MSE when it "hit the shelves" to test it out. So far I am very pleased with it.
And as you can see from this article Microsoft Security Essentials or Forefront: Which should a Windows user choose? | All about Microsoft | ZDNet.com, the engine is the same.

Thanks for the link, its good to know. I was close to just installing MSE on 7 too and calling it a day as forefront was a slight pain to install even though MS lists it as 7 compatible. I was lucky enough to find the /NOMOM way though I think it disabled the alert system. I'll stick with it until the new forefront hits next year (or if forced to reinstall windows) and see if that is any better.
Thanks


You should still get alerts, even if you did the /NOMOM install...
(Which is what I have always used when installing ForeFront)
 

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Thanks for the info that is good to know. It also goes to show that AV's are not needed for my uses lol -but I still like to run one nonetheless:)
 

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So, I have seen a lot of people praising MSE... Is it that good? I've been using NOD32 for about 5 years now, is MSE as user-programmable as NOD (used to be)?
 

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I have one other Dell OptiPlex 980 tower, Identical to this one,
When my renewal for nod32 came up I thought Id give MSE a try instead and I havent regretted it. No more subscriptions!
 

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Should this take place of AVG/Spybot? Or should I keep all three? During install it prompted me to remove all anti-virus/spyware removal programs.
 

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Western Digital
it will take the place of those.
 

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Should this take place of AVG/Spybot? Or should I keep all three? During install it prompted me to remove all anti-virus/spyware removal programs.
Hello NewToit,

It is generally not recommended to run more than one anti-virus at the same time, to avoid conflicts. However, I know people who swear by running MSE and Malwarebytes together.
 

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Should this take place of AVG/Spybot? Or should I keep all three? During install it prompted me to remove all anti-virus/spyware removal programs.

If you want performance, you should never install more than one antivirus or antispyware at the same time. Microsoft security essentials is already very good at detecting viruses and spyware (detected 3 for me so far). It really is redundant to have more than one virus or spyware protection. Most viruses and spyware actually target users who are ignorant about how to browse safely.

I hope you have a good experience with microsoft security essentials ;)
cheers~!
 

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You can actually have more than one Anti malware system on your computer at one time - What is to be avoided is running two or more "active" programs at one time.

This can lead to conflicts between the two systems that may actually lead to an infection being missed or harmless items being flagged as malware.

There is also the matter of system resource - no AV will run without some impact on the running of the system and more than one will be worse than a single program.

It is however a good policy to have more than one anti-malware tool available for running ON-Demand, I would recommend that you retain spybot S&D, just not in active / resident mode, in addition to MSE and run the Spybot manually once a week or so. No AV solution is foolproof and this will often pick up something that a single program could miss
 

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You can actually have more than one Anti malware system on your computer at one time - What is to be avoided is running two or more "active" programs at one time.

This can lead to conflicts between the two systems that may actually lead to an infection being missed or harmless items being flagged as malware.

There is also the matter of system resource - no AV will run without some impact on the running of the system and more than one will be worse than a single program.

It is however a good policy to have more than one anti-malware tool available for running ON-Demand, I would recommend that you retain spybot S&D, just not in active / resident mode, in addition to MSE and run the Spybot manually once a week or so. No AV solution is foolproof and this will often pick up something that a single program could miss

I guess it's true. It's just that I have never really experienced trouble with malware or virus much before. (I only got them once and that was when i was an ignorant fool...)
However, not even a business usually would be so security orientated. Im just saying that, not everybody needs to go THAT far
 

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Useless, it doesn't update by itself.
 

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MSE missed 2 trojans on my PC, fortunately NIS2010 got them
 

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new version available

Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1959.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
 

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How do we get the update? Windows update shows nothing and the update in the program only updates definitions?
 

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u hav to download setup from window site...
 

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Something weird going on with the update.
I have been using the present download from the Microsoft site.
Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1611.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.0.6212.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5502.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.0.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.0.0

I upgraded to:
Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1959.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5502.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.0.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.0.0


After some checking of my Event Viewer I notice I have been getting a start up error from MS Security Essentials.

ERROR MESSAGE from Event Viewer
Session "Microsoft Security Essentials 00BE"
Stopped due to following error: 0x000000D

I couldn't find out what it was all about so I uninstall MSE and downloaded the latest from the website download and guess what...
It installed
Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1611.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.0.6212.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5502.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.0.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.0.0

I rebooted and the error was gone.

Can some of you that upgraded check this out to verify the current download version and if you have the newer version 1.0.1959.0 are you getting a startup error like I did in your Event Viewer?



 

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I got a shot
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The new Improved EDGE 2020
I just downloaded the Win 7 x64 version and it is 1.0.1959.0 and was 7355 KB compared to the old ver which is 4832 KB. When I installed it the came up as an update.
I now have:

Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1959.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
Engine Version: unknown - where do I find this info???
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.0.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.0.0


It seems to take longer to scan but went from 67000 items to 75000 items scanned.

There are two files msseoobe.exe and msseooberes.dll that were also updated and these may have been damaged causing the event error you had.

Jim :cool:

I just did another scan with MSE and it was back to its fast pace and back to 68000 items scan. Apparently the first time it is installed or updated it marks some files as safe and skips them in future scans. I hope MS knows what they are doing because I don't.

Jim :confused:
 
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I just downloaded the Win 7 x64 version and it is 1.0.1959.0 and was 7355 KB compared to the old ver which is 4832 KB. When I installed it the came up as an update.
I now have:

Microsoft Security Essentials Version: 1.0.1959.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
Engine Version: unknown - where do I find this info???
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.0.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.0.0


It seems to take longer to scan but went from 67000 items to 75000 items scanned.

There are two files msseoobe.exe and msseooberes.dll that were also updated and these may have been damaged causing the event error you had.

Jim :cool:

I just did another scan with MSE and it was back to its fast pace and back to 68000 items scan. Apparently the first time it is installed or updated it marks some files as safe and skips them in future scans. I hope MS knows what they are doing because I don't.

Jim :confused:


Thanks. I will do a coplete full scan now and see what happens.
So far I still have the older version.
 

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Windows 10 Pro
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I have a fatherboard
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I'm old and lost a few chips
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Yup
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Yup
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Samsung 32" UHD
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Small tower
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Yes I am cool. lol
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Who needs a keyboard?
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Zippy fast UP and DOWN
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I got a shot
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The new Improved EDGE 2020
Well just un-installed and downloaded/installed the newer one, scanning now :)
 

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