Microsoft Security Essentials ranked second last in AV-Test's

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Custom Build
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Windows 10 Pro x64, Arch Linux
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz
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Asus Rampage formula LGA775
Memory
8GB DDR2 900Mhz
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MSI GT730 2GB GDDR5 (Kepler)
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Supreme FX2
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Samsung LS22F350 LED
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1080P
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Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB, 500GB Hitachi, 2TB Samsung, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung, 160GB Toshiba (Arch)
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AeroCool 500W Bronze
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Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans
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Prolink keyboard
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Logitech M705
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1MiB/s
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Chrome Beta
This is the place where we help fight some of the most serious infections - those which have completely locked up the OS often requiring wiping to clean reinstall.

The AV's which let these slip by are rarely MSE or Avast but more often the paid bloatware AV's.
One person working in the business I know regularly sees MSE on an infected computer.
 

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OS
Arch Linux 64-bit
I'm confused. Their are people who hate Microsof, hate Windows, and still use both.They hate MSE because it's Microsoft.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I'm confused. Their are people who hate Microsof, hate Windows, and still use both.They hate MSE because it's Microsoft.
And they hate it because it is not so effective as claimed by many :)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64, Arch Linux
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz
Motherboard
Asus Rampage formula LGA775
Memory
8GB DDR2 900Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GT730 2GB GDDR5 (Kepler)
Sound Card
Supreme FX2
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LS22F350 LED
Screen Resolution
1080P
Hard Drives
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB, 500GB Hitachi, 2TB Samsung, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung, 160GB Toshiba (Arch)
PSU
AeroCool 500W Bronze
Cooling
Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans
Keyboard
Prolink keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M705
Internet Speed
1MiB/s
Browser
Chrome Beta
I left MSE a long time ago, it did not even manage to give me the protection I needed

If you don't mind me asking, what do you use?
I was using KIS, now am on NIS2011 :)
I will never use MSE again unless MS does something about it

Like what others have said, MSE is good for the average person who checks e-mail, and goes on online from time to time. They don't download programs or go P2P sites etc. It's better than nothing.

I have MSE installed on an older XP machine but also use NIS 2011 on the Windows Seven computers that I have. In the end I feel it's a personal preference.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC
OS
Windows Seven x64
CPU
2.2 GHz Dual Core
Motherboard
Quanta 3600
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3470
Sound Card
ATI
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop
Hard Drives
ATA Hitachi HTS543215 (5400RPM)
Case
Laptop
Cooling
Fan
Internet Speed
Basic DSL 1.5 up and Down
What are your recommended AV's that step up protection from MSE or Avast signifcantly?

If they are paid AV's, how do they impact performance compared to the preferred freebies, and what makes them worth paying for?

I'd be interested in finding the best bang-for-the-buck paid AV to offer as a paid alternative, but would rather hear from real-world experience rather than sponsored test results.

In particular I know of several cases where fake-AV viruses were clicked in by users without objection by MSE or Avast, something which of course we blamed on user carelessness. Which paid AV would have stopped it from happening, or tried?

More importantly when experts I respect here weigh in with these kinds of caveats about MSE and Avast, it is a wake up call that perhaps we shouldn't be handing out MSE/Avast so quickly without qualification.
 
As a matter of interest, is it true that a 64-bit system is harder to infect than a 32-bit system?

If it is, could those of us that are using MSE on a 64-bit copy of Windows get lulled into a false sense of security?

And like gregrocker, I'd love to know which is the best anti-virus software, preferably from a completely unbiased study......if it's at all possible.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion Elite 495UK
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
Motherboard
MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
Memory
8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP2310i
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage
PSU
460W
Case
HP Elite
Cooling
Air cooled
Keyboard
Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
Internet Speed
2Mb
Other Info
Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop
This all reminds me of the old saying in computers "Mine is bigger than yours" :p

Rich
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
What are your recommended AV's that step up protection from MSE or Avast signifcantly?
Unfortunately, I don't think there is a clear cut winner in this area...if there were, we would all use it.

In particular I know of several cases where fake-AV viruses were clicked in by users without objection by MSE or Avast, something which of course we blamed on user carelessness. Which paid AV would have stopped it from happening, or tried?
Well, at work, we use Trend Micro Office Scan and I've seen these machines infected with fake AV's. I've worked on personal computers for others with McAfee products and I've seen these infected with Fake AV's as well. At home, I use MSE on my Windows 7 box, and Avast on my wife's laptop and both have these have performed ok for me.
 

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Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
malexous unbiased reviews on anti virus programs don't try and sell Norton at the bottom of the page.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Once again the anti-MSE crowd is jumping up and down with joy saying, "See... See... We told you MSE was no good!"

And the pro-MSE crowd is saying, "But wait... it's just one review. MSE is good!"

If someone is happy with KIS, or NIS, or Bubba's Best Antivirus, so be it. As long as it works for them, who cares?
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i5 2.4 Ghz
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
640Gb 7200rpm
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Opera (primary) with IE9 backup
I think you are reading them incorrectly, Ladyback Bear. Could it be the Google ads on Raymond.CC that you see?
 

My Computer

OS
Arch Linux 64-bit
I'm using MSE for over a year since it's free for legal Win7 package! It sometimes caught Trojans Downloaders during these days.

However, long period of time is required for FULL SCAN to the whole computer. (> 24 Hours) :shock:
You need to be cautioned to use this Anti-Virus software.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
?
Motherboard
?
Memory
?
Graphics Card(s)
?
Sound Card
?
Monitor(s) Displays
?
Hard Drives
?
PSU
?
Case
?
Cooling
?
I think you are reading them incorrectly, Ladyback Bear. Could it be the Google ads on Raymond.CC that you see?

Haha, the amusements of targeted advertising :D
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Scratch built
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
i7 960
Motherboard
Asus P6X58D
Memory
12 Gig Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 480
Sound Card
Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors
Screen Resolution
1920x1200 and 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode.
PSU
Corasair TX850
Case
Cooler Master HAF
Cooling
Corsair H50
Keyboard
Logitech G15 + N52 game pad
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
15kbs down 4.5kbps up
Other Info
WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7
Once again the anti-MSE crowd is jumping up and down with joy saying, "See... See... We told you MSE was no good!"

And the pro-MSE crowd is saying, "But wait... it's just one review. MSE is good!"

If someone is happy with KIS, or NIS, or Bubba's Best Antivirus, so be it. As long as it works for them, who cares?

Yepperz....that's about the scope of it.....
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Hell oh Well
OS
Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Monitor(s) Displays
24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
Hard Drives
1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
Case
Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Mouse
10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
Internet Speed
Never fast enough
Antivirus
Various
Browser
Various
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