Microsoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it

[Lady Fitzgerald]

User to Microsoft: Take your [censored] Win 10 and [censored].

 

[AddRAM]

I am using two Windows7 machines ... one is an OEM (Lenovo laptop, Win Pro7) and the other is a custom build desktop Win7 Ultimate. I'm not seeing any of this 'forcing/downloading/nag' stuff that others are reporting. Why is that?

I have Windows update set to notify me when new updates are available, but not to download automatically.

I don`t have any Windows 10 issues either Jacee, never did

 

[Urthboundmisfit]

Win 7 Pro SP1 x64

I am using two Windows7 machines ... one is an OEM (Lenovo laptop, Win Pro7) and the other is a custom build desktop Win7 Ultimate. I'm not seeing any of this 'forcing/downloading/nag' stuff that others are reporting. Why is that?

I have Windows update set to notify me when new updates are available, but not to download automatically.

I don`t have any Windows 10 issues either Jacee, never did

No problems here either. I've set Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update in Group Policy.
Windows Update set to check but let me choose.
Hidden: KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3035583, KB3068708, KB3075249, KB3080149.
Installed: KB3083710

 

[Indianatone]

Two of the W7 computers that I support only recently (11 Oct) had those registry settings added.

They...
...are on 24/7
...are not in a domain
...had the $Windows.~BT folder (6GB)
...had the GWX offer in the notification area
...had the "give me recommended updates..." checked
...had (and still have) auto-install updates selected
...did not automatically install W10.


Indianatone,
Please remind me; when did this forced change to W10 happen for you?

Patch Tuesday in October 2015 about 10 PM as I was going to bed. As I had not had time that day to look into the updates I was going to shut the PC's down and discovered my options were to install Windows 10. My settings were indeed changed as I used to choose what to download. All the settings were indeed over ridden by M$ and they said as much and they are going to do it again next year.

See my post 78 for full details:

Re: Patching tuesday - the new peril

"KB3083710 - still no information about what this does, but it is important they tell me."
Microsoft - KB3083710 improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1
I believe KB3083710 changes your update settings from check for updates but let me choose when to download and install them to install updates automatically. When KB 3083710 is installed it automatically installs KB 2952664 when you shut down

And Bingo Windows 10 another happy customer brought to by Microsoft. *SARCASM*

 

[UsernameIssues]

Thanks for the info. I have KB3083710 installed. My WU settings held. I sure wish we knew precisely what triggered yours (and others) experience.

 

[Brds7t7]

Thanks for the info. I have KB3083710 installed. My WU settings held. I sure wish we knew precisely what triggered yours (and others) experience.

The Group Policy seems to stick, however I've seen some users with just the registry setting have it automatically changed. Haven't noticed that with GP though.
I've been advising people to use the Group Policy (if they have the pro version installed).
As I said, if after an update my GP settings have changed, then that's it, it'll be like fighting a losing battle. WU will be switched off and I'll just install every security update on my own.
Before any backlash, I'm not advocating turning this off to anyone! I will only do this if it gets to the point they're giving me no other option. WU is becoming more of a hindrance than a benefit.

Luckily that hasn't happened yet! My settings and policies have remained intact so far.

 

[Indianatone]

Thanks for the info. I have KB3083710 installed. My WU settings held. I sure wish we knew precisely what triggered yours (and others) experience.

I now fully absolutely do not trust Microsoft. My original windows update settings were just notify me. You got the yellow shield in the notification area of the taskbar when there were any updates. I would then look and download and install the updates. This setting was tampered with by Microsoft and set to download and install everything. I suppose they send a command to wake up KB3083710 which in turn changes the settings and downloads everything to enable a Windows 10 install.

Some scripts from Github to sort out Microosft's over reaching.

https://github.com/WindowsLies/BlockWindows

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

For Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate only.

 

[jadinolf]

I have a three dollar bill here that says you are wrong, Microsoft.:devil:

 

[jadinolf]

User to Microsoft: Take your [censored] Win 10 and [censored].

Bite your tongue.

 

[jadinolf]

Microsoft really wants people to get on the Windows 10 bandwagon, so much so that the company plans to start automatically downloading its new operating system to some users' computers next year.

That's an aggressive move from Microsoft, especially given the outcry earlier this month after the company did the same thing accidentally. Users who've gotten the download will still be able to opt out before it's installed on the device, and they can roll back the upgrade for as long as 31 days after making the switch to the new OS, so that's some consolation.

It's a particularly raw deal for people who are on metered Internet connections. Windows 8.1 users aren't in danger there, because that OS won't automatically download updates over a metered connection. But Windows 7 users will have to turn off automatic downloads of all recommended updates in order to avoid downloading multiple gigabytes worth of operating system.

Microsoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it | PCWorld

Borg, I wish I had 7.1.

 

[Layback Bear]

How about Windows 7 SP-1/SE

 

[lehnerus2000]

Interesting how it has never happened with any of the other 200+ W7 updates (on my PC).

I really do wish I had taken a screen shot at the time but I was more concerned about fixing the machines than taking pictures.

That's always seems to be what happens ("No time to take screenshots now. I'll do them later.").

This may explain why MS is pushing 10 so hard Windows 10's growth is very slow -- Windows 7 and 8.x users reluctant to switch

Oh man!

There seems to be a lot of shills, trolls and juveniles posting comments on that site (about that article).

 

[3Colors]

I tried the W10 in a laptop and I liked. An increase in performance.

 

[jadinolf]

If I was the new boss of Microsoft. Some new guidelines.

1. Windows 10 stays
2. Windows 10 will no longer be free
3. Windows 10 will be in re-development starting NOW.
4. Windows 10 will be change to meet our billions of customers needs and desires.
5. We will no longer make products we like unless our customer also like them and are willing to pay for them.
6. We will not hold back anything, their will be full and understandable disclosure.
7. Their will be opt in and not opt out of any added functions; well displayed and understandable.
8. We will no longer have Windows 10 in any updates of our previous operating systems.
9. We will increase our advertisement budget to sell our products in a friendly fashion.
10. Board members will agree to these above guidelines or quickly find the exit door before the janitorial department gets in the board room and starts cleaning.

Our goal is to make Windows 10 so our customers want to buy, use and enjoy Windows 10. We want to keep our billions of customers and add to our customer list with products that old and new customers want.

Starting now all our employees will be notified that the desires and obligation of Microsoft are to make products our customers want and need, not some board room member goofy idea.

To all board room members.
Don't ask any questions until you are sure you understand and agree to the above memo.

Please install a copy of this memo in all bathroom stalls and above all urinals so everybody in the company will read it.

Signed:
Layback Bear
Dated NOW

I'm liking you more and more for MS CEO!

Try Pope.

 

[mjf]

I like many don't want W10 forced on me I have KB3083710 installed. What do I do ... uninstall it?
My update setting btw are

 

[ThrashZone]

Just got this one or at least just noticed it as a Optional
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810

Issues that are fixed in this update


Issue 1

When you install updates by using System Center Configuration Manager, the installation takes a long time, and System Center Configuration Manager becomes overloaded.
Issue 2

The Svchost.exe process occupies 100 percent of CPU usage when you upgrade a Windows Update client to Windows 10.

 

[michael diemer]

An easy way to deal with this crap: take W7 offline permanently, use it only for things you absolutely need it for. (For me, that's music creation). Find a Linux distro you like, and use that for all Internet activity. You can download software for W7 with Linux. Then put it on W7 (running a malware scan on it if you feel the need).
If M$ has so screwed up your W7 that you can't get it clean of this infection, take it back to before this sh*t started, with a system image. Then keep it offline.

 

[Diosoth]

I actually had to disable automatic checking for updates back in May because it seemed every time it would check for those updates on its daily schedule both cores of my CPU would shoot to 100% usage for a good 15 minutes straight and it had the worst habit of starting the check when I was running something, slowing the whole computer to a crawl. After some exploration I learned that the update check was the culprit.

It should not do that. It shouldn't eat up the CPU just to check for updates or take that long to get a list. I didn't even have to set to download or anything, merely check. At least MSE's daily update is unobtrusive enough that it doesn't eat up the CPU.

 

[Computer0304]

Wait... I read through the thread but I'm kind of confused. Is disabling "Give me reccomend updates the same way I recieve important updates" the only thing I have to do for now to prevent Windows 10 from being installed automatically? I still want to leave important updates to install automatically because I often forget about things like this. Also, I don't want to change anything else to completely get rid of the update because that still feels kind of risky. I'll also just download any other recommended updates manually if I see it update automatically on Patch Tuesday.
(I'm using Windows 8.1 K and another machine with regular Windows 8.1)

 

[Brds7t7]

If you've unticked the recommended box then it "shouldn't" download the installer.
Although, the way MS is pushing 10, I wouldn't be surprised if it's still downloaded on to your HDD when set to Automatic.
I never have mine set to Auto, just to check.