More computers and 2 networks.

[darkhorse]

Hi.

I have here more Windows 7 computers, and want to have 2 networks for them.

One for LAN, and another one for WAN.

I think I need 2 routers then ?.

How do I make ths setup.

 

[Joan Archer]

You'll have to give the experts a lot more details if you want them to help you. Please post back with the details of just how many computers there are and exactly what version of Windows 7 they all run. How do you connect to the Internet, is it via cable, satellite or ADSL. Do you want the machines connected via Ethernet cable or Wireless and will they all be in the same room or in different ones and are they all desktop machines or laptop.

Please post back with as many details as possible and I'm sure one of the experts will be able to help you, oh have you had a look through the Tutorials to see if there's anything there that can help you ?

 

[darkhorse]

You'll have to give the experts a lot more details if you want them to help you. Please post back with the details of just how many computers there are and exactly what version of Windows 7 they all run. How do you connect to the Internet, is it via cable, satellite or ADSL. Do you want the machines connected via Ethernet cable or Wireless and will they all be in the same room or in different ones and are they all desktop machines or laptop.

Please post back with as many details as possible and I'm sure one of the experts will be able to help you, oh have you had a look through the Tutorials to see if there's anything there that can help you ?

Hi again, and many thanks for the reply.
I will give further informations here,

There are a total of 4 computers. They all run Window 7 Ultimate 32 bit.
I connect to the Internet via ADSL.

I prefer Ethernet cable.

There are 2 computers in one room, and 2 computers in other 2 rooms in the house.

The computers are all desktops.

If needed I will give more details, please tell m it

 

[tman69]

this may help somewhat:

Setting Up : How To: One Internet connection - Two Private LANs

Variations and Limitations : How To: One Internet connection - Two Private LANs

after that it gets a bit complicated--see:

setting up a wan and a lan together

 

[acurasd]

Okay... Where is your ASDL modem located... how far is one another computer from one another..

The way I have it hooked up in my house...


Cable Modem ==> Router ==> Switch One & Switch Two

Switch One:
Front of the House === >>> Branches out to Cat5 Wall Jacks

Switch Two:
Back of the House ====>> Branches ou to Cat5 Wall Jacks as well

Router is Wireless if you decide to have a cell phone or Iphone connected to it.

 

[darkhorse]

Okay... Where is your ASDL modem located... how far is one another computer from one another..

The way I have it hooked up in my house...


Cable Modem ==> Router ==> Switch One & Switch Two

Switch One:
Front of the House === >>> Branches out to Cat5 Wall Jacks

Switch Two:
Back of the House ====>> Branches ou to Cat5 Wall Jacks as well

Router is Wireless if you decide to have a cell phone or Iphone connected to it.

My cable modem and router are in the same box here. I only have one switch located 1m away from the router.

At the present I have connected a Linksys router to the first mentioned router that let me connect to the last mentioned router, if I have something there's wireless on the table. How can you connect a cell phone to a wireless router ?

 

[darkhorse]

@tman69

Many thanks for your post. Looks like something that I can use

 

[acurasd]

ASDL/Router >>> Switch
If your Router has more than one port, usually four. You can plug the two computers into this one....
Than use Lan Port 3 from the Router and string it to the other room where Third Computer is...
From there...


Switch:
Lan Port 1: Third Computer
Lan Port 2: Another Lan Cable that will run into the next room.... for Fourth Computer
Lan Port 3 & 4: Empty if you want to expand.

Switch 1 to Other room where 4th Computer is located...
You can either directly plug it into the computer or route it into another switch.

That is the easy way of doing it. Daisy Chain...

SECOND WAY:
TWO COMPUTERS COME OUT OF THE ROUTER
THIRD PORT: GOES INTO THIRD COMPUTER
FOURTH PORT: GOES INTO FOURTH COMPUTER

But you have to think... if you don't daisy chain, then for every computer, you have to run a line (cat5) per computer... so you think about how much wire you have to run and buy.

It just really depends on how many walls you go through.


YOU HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION...

[Q] What's the longest (maximum length) CAT 5 patch or crossover cable I can buy from you?

[A] The maximum length (maximum certifiable length) for CAT 5 patch or crossover cables is 328 feet (100 meters).

Beyond that, you run the risk of signal loss and other complications.
=======================================================
So if it goes beyond this length... you may have to plug it into a switch to boost the signal.

 

[darkhorse]

@acurasd

Thank you for your last reply. I can see the points you mention.

But say I want to run 2 computers on one Network, and the last 2 on another
Network.

How do I that using the same router/switch ?

 

[acurasd]

Yeah you can do it with two routers... you can always replace the switch with a router...

as long as your Subnet is the same than it should be able to find each network...


Or are you talking about different Workgroups?


Router One:
Not Sure where you are... but here in america this is the typical setup. I know because you used meters.

1. IP from Modems DHCP through the wan

Internal Network (First Router)
IP: 192.168.1.1 (Router Gateway)
Subnet: 255.255.255.0

Run a Cable into the WAN port of the 2nd Router:
Activate the Static IP:
So you would give it:

IP: 192.168.1.20
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers: from your router

You can always use DHCP but its more reliable to use Static

Change the Internet Network to:
192.168.2.1 ===> Routers Gateway
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
DNS

With this.. it should be able to see both networks but 2 computers will have the IPs: 192.168.1.*
Other Computers will have: 192.168.2.*

Now I may be a little off so if anyone else can shine a light..it would be appreciated.

 

[darkhorse]

Ok fine.
I have not had different workgroups in my mind.

Else very nice, and I understand what you wrote to me

 

[Zepher]

your post is a little confusing but I think it sounds like you want to set up a Lan with a wireless bridge to the other 2 machines in the other room so that they can access the network.

 

[darkhorse]

Yupp, 2 networks having different IP's

 

[Zepher]

Is there a reason you want the machines on 2 totally different IP ranges?
Easy way to do that is to just slap some static IP addresses into the 4 machines and use the routers IP as the gateway if you need to access the internet.
But you won't be able to easily share files between the 2 networks.

 

[darkhorse]

Yes, I want to have a completely isolated LAN, that cannot see the WAN, but of course I also want to be able to reach the WAN, but that should be donw via the other network. I will be free from antivirus and firewall then.