More RAM doesn't always amount to better performance

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Unfortunately, a 32 bit OS can only address a total of four gigs. The 256 megs on your video card is using part of that four gigs. That means 256 megs of you ram is unavailable. It's sitting there in your computer but can't be used because Windows does not have enough memory addresses to map it. There are other devices in the computer that also have memory address space set aside for them. The total address space dedicated to hardware is unavailable to the OS. That's why a system with four gigs of ram can only use 3+ gigs. I hope this is more clear. The only way to resolve this is to switch to a 64 OS - it can address a much larger amount of ram.

Got it... hope to get 64bit OS once its officially released... just hope it'll run with my software... :confused:

And thanx for your help... much appreciated...
 

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Wow you guys are really into it. Your all right. When i was an IT mgr overseeing a performance group in a large 360/370 installation the thing we always looked at was the amount of paging or thrashing done by our DASD (disks), multiple reads done to your paging drive will bring any system to its knees. You really want to keep as much of the application as possible resident in memory. Ideally to have the entire app in memory is ideal but will never happen. So when Jimbo says buy faster drives hes absolutly right but when you compare milli sec (disk access times)to micro sec (memory access times) ther isnt a drive out ther that compete with memory. Fake is right on when hes says "If you have a crappy hard disk, disable your page file, buy 4 gigs of ram and run completely off ram, this will stop page faults (swapping of memory to the hard drive and vice versa) which is a huge performance gainer.." or configure a raid drive and use 2 drives in tandem. Enought has not been said about performance in a PC. For instance nothing has been mentioned about tuning your memory to your FEB that your MB is capable of handling. that boosted my rating up .2 points. I'm, currently running 6 gig an do a mixture of video and gaming. Im satisfied with my performance but its not only the amount of memory, the speed of your drives, the speed of your cpu, or the speed of your front end bus. It's the way you bring all these components together in a harmonous way using each to augment the other. Thats why i still build my own system when i need another. I really wonder about dell and hp and the rest of these manufacturs bout the time they spend really tuning their systems. I haven't seen a good "store bought" system. But thats another topic. For now I'll enjoy the snappiness of 7232. LOL
 

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I'll tell you one thing, in my craptop, more RAM would do me wonders!
 

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I call it the craptop.
LOL never heard that term craptop. I have one of those too.can only get it up to 1.5 gig but win 7 does very nicely. I realy think this is the best MS has ever done. Hope they get the credit they deserve. MSE is looking good too. Steve is doing a great job.
Bob
 

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Wow you guys are really into it. Your all right. When i was an IT mgr overseeing a performance group in a large 360/370 installation the thing we always looked at was the amount of paging or thrashing done by our DASD (disks), multiple reads done to your paging drive will bring any system to its knees. You really want to keep as much of the application as possible resident in memory. Ideally to have the entire app in memory is ideal but will never happen. So when Jimbo says buy faster drives hes absolutly right but when you compare milli sec (disk access times)to micro sec (memory access times) ther isnt a drive out ther that compete with memory. Fake is right on when hes says "If you have a crappy hard disk, disable your page file, buy 4 gigs of ram and run completely off ram, this will stop page faults (swapping of memory to the hard drive and vice versa) which is a huge performance gainer.." or configure a raid drive and use 2 drives in tandem. Enought has not been said about performance in a PC. For instance nothing has been mentioned about tuning your memory to your FEB that your MB is capable of handling. that boosted my rating up .2 points. I'm, currently running 6 gig an do a mixture of video and gaming. Im satisfied with my performance but its not only the amount of memory, the speed of your drives, the speed of your cpu, or the speed of your front end bus. It's the way you bring all these components together in a harmonous way using each to augment the other. Thats why i still build my own system when i need another. I really wonder about dell and hp and the rest of these manufacturs bout the time they spend really tuning their systems. I haven't seen a good "store bought" system. But thats another topic. For now I'll enjoy the snappiness of 7232. LOL

Question:... would you recommend then that I turn of my page file completely in performance settings?...
 

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No!!! your page file is one of those things you really need unless you have loads of memory like 12 gig. I have 6 gig and my paging is set to win 7 default
 

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No!!! your page file is one of those things you really need unless you have loads of memory like 12 gig. I have 6 gig and my paging is set to win 7 default

What would then be the ideal setting?...
 

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I'm not that smart, but i suspect it is a percentage of your available HD Capacity. and by using the default value set by MS using some algorithm i feel comfortable that its pretty reasonable. if you have another HD try spreading your paging files over 2 or even 3 drives. if you have several windows open it may let your apps run faster.
 

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2 GB ram here and i need more.
Firefox 3 (3.5 Also) goes and eats like 1.4 Gb ram for me and i bet it can eat more but it can't anymore as other resources are taken by system and other processes.

So yeah more RAM is needed :D
 

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2 GB ram here and i need more.
Firefox 3 (3.5 Also) goes and eats like 1.4 Gb ram for me and i bet it can eat more but it can't anymore as other resources are taken by system and other processes.

So yeah more RAM is needed :D

1.4GB of ram in firefox damn that has to be a lot of tabs with flash & Java running.. I have yet to get FF above 500meg of ram usage but I keep it to 6 tabs now a days anymore and Im working too much.
 

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Currently opened 6 tabs and eating like 600 mb.
I don't think it's normal.

I think Mozilla should fix the memory issues in Win7.
I don't remember same issue in Xp or Vista.
 

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pagefile

What would then be the ideal setting?...

Ideal paging file is 1.5xram. But if you have >3gigs make it as small as you can so you run out of ram instead of HD which is 1000% slower.

Page file is just in case

Hope this helps and welcome

Ken
 

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I'm not that smart, but i suspect it is a percentage of your available HD Capacity. and by using the default value set by MS using some algorithm i feel comfortable that its pretty reasonable. if you have another HD try spreading your paging files over 2 or even 3 drives. if you have several windows open it may let your apps run faster.

Cool... thanx...
 

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I have not changed my page file settings at all and I think by default the OS manages it and currently 4 gb is allocated though it can max out to 6 gb looks like which goes hand in hand with the 1.5x your physical memory dealiyo.
 

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