More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8

[FerchogtX]

So basically, they will kill the desktop... the only useful interface they've done in years in favor of a dual window mode (which only allows, duh! 2 windows at most at the same time... the rest need to be switchable) and a bunch of advertisement tiles...

Well gentleman, 2013 is known for being the water serpent year in chinesse calendar, which means great changes and downfalls, seems that MS will get the biggest fail in their corporate lives in august... but maybe before that, they will be overwhelmed by Ubuntu and their alliance with that country, trying to take some market for them... MS doesn't realize this could harm them, and badly...

When Windows 7 came out, was a hope for real imprvements on the OS... I don't know if it's just my impression, but looks to me like if the current MS CEO is working too hard to get Windows out of the game... understimating PC users and moving into a dumb spiral of bad desitions... it like cleaning the path for Apple and Linux in the future...

That would be really sad, Windows was present in me since Windows 3.11, games, work, applications, homeworks, social... I don't see apple or Linux deleting what make them nice... they got desktops, taksbars, control panels... they change UI's for other type of devices and that's OK... But MS... Oh god...

If they value MS, the current CEO (I don't know who the hell he is...) must be fired and replaced by someone with more vision and responsability...

Just my oppinion though....

 

[whs]

This will definitely not be a good year for Microsoft and Mr. Ballmer, their CEO.

 

[FerchogtX]

Oh my god... dat serch resolts...!!!

Seriously, that links are not heartwarming... Why did Gates put him there? It's like assisting suicide...

 

[PaulGo]

No Windows desktop mode!? No!

Summary: The early look at Blue have some Windows experts thinking that Microsoft is getting ready to dump Windows 8's desktop mode once and for all in favor of Metro. No!

...I've thought all along that one way Microsoft could save Windows 8 from its current market malaise if it would make its desktop mode the primary interface instead of Metro.
That isn't what Thurrott sees happening though. In fact, he sees the exact opposite.

No Windows desktop mode!? No! | ZDNet

 

[Night Hawk]

Well you know I will have 7 forever! on here. As for Linux originally I only had live cds and eventually ran into an old reference on how to use the other OS for data recovery. Computer First Aid Using Linux highlighted how Knoppix Live cds(once upon a time small enough to fit on a cd-r that is now live dvd only) now Knoppix 6.2 live dvd could rescue files while booting live from cd. Ubuntu guides for this showed up some years later.

I have also been trying out the differing Linux flavors on data recovery sticks as well as on VMs. The problem I kept running into however was trying to get Linux Mint Cinnamon or the other two they have for LM 13 while Linux Mint Debian the one time release with 200 preloaded app install options will immediately custom install to flash as well as VM. Zorin 6.0 on VM as well being the ubuntu LTS flavor seen there. The LMDebian however is a little on the larger size while not much larger then LM13.

Well that covers the Other OS side of the equation at least whlie I am not exactly looking forward to replacing the Windows OS entirely at least for the foreseeable future years to come until 2020. Yet you notice Steam got into Linux and others are soon to follow if MS keeps on with this latest trend which will pressure people into looking for alternatives. So the new mobile markket gain stratedgy while trashing the desktop will eventually backfire in MS's own face!

 

[theveterans]

With Microsoft ditching the desktop mode in their upcoming Windows releases, I would never get another OS from them again. Microsoft is really doing a perfect job of making their customers move to the other side.

 

[Dallas 7]

Unless we all stay with Windows 7, then I guess many users may switch to Linux.

That is exactly where I am headed: http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/282018-i-bored-so-i-made-enjoy.html

Well if M$ wants to phase out the desktop, I hope enough consumers decide to phase out Microsoft. They've totally gone off the deep end.

 

[Night Hawk]

Unless we all stay with Windows 7, then I guess many users may switch to Linux.

That is exactly where I am headed: http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/282018-i-bored-so-i-made-enjoy.html

Well if M$ wants to phase out the desktop, I hope enough consumers decide to phase out Microsoft. They've totally gone off the deep end.

The real problem won't simply be changing OSs but what to do with all those softwares that still can't be run on Wine while you might get away running an older version on Boch's which detects supports hardwares not simply sharing resources from the host OS. You can run any version there and play games as well since it isn't limited to the 128mb or now 256mb AGP type confinement VirtualBox and VM Player have been content with.

The newer Linux releases in the forever growing number of flavors it seems are more user friendly with the intent of drawing more Windows as well as Mac users into the mix of Linux users. MS has now decided to see the main stream Windows users look sideways for something else unless they decide to get back ontrack of supporting the desktop platform in a progressive manner like 7 was bringing in!

 

[Dallas 7]

The real problem won't simply be changing OSs but what to do with all those softwares that still can't be run on Wine while you might get away running an older version on Boch's which detects supports hardwares not simply sharing resources from the host OS. You can run any version there and play games as well since it isn't limited to the 128mb or now 256mb AGP type confinement VirtualBox and VM Player have been content with.

The newer Linux releases in the forever growing number of flavors it seems are more user friendly with the intent of drawing more Windows as well as Mac users into the mix of Linux users. MS has now decided to see the main stream Windows users look sideways for something else unless they decide to get back ontrack of supporting the desktop platform in a progressive manner like 7 was bringing in!

It's definitely looking that way. Makes me wonder, if Apple is watching this? If Apple was smart, they'd lower their prices a little and offer an olive branch to the desktop crowd. Apple could clean up and leave Microsoft gasping for air.
Don't know if they will or not, but they could!

I know this much for sure, if M$ does indeed kill the desktop, the ONLY "Gesture" I'll have for Microsoft would not be recognized on a touch screen.
I'll run W7 till I can't run it any longer, then I'll look elsewhere.

 

[Night Hawk]

The Fruit company has been an overcharger for decades already on everything. They can simply sit back and watch as MS goes into a self detruct mode as far as their main desktop products are concerned when enough people drop what they will be coming out with after 8 unless MS gets back in the ballpark again.

If they continue to follow the mobile/Tablet trend that will leave a large vacancy open for another company including Mr. Fruit Company to jump in where MS left off and take over! With Googlitis now into the OS business they might take an opt to come up with something that will run Windows apps including a new form of Android or I Robot! "we now can offer you the new Silver, Gold, or Platinum editions of "R2D2" version #1 desktop!"

 

[lehnerus2000]

Personal Preference

....and you have Win7 with a little bit of Explorer improvement.

In W7, you can have the Details & Preview panes running at the same time.
I could never achieve that with the W8 Preview versions.
I suppose if a user likes the "Ribbon", they could overlook that.

Let's face it, all that the "Ribbon" does is restore the menus and toolbars, that Vista and W7 inexplicably got rid of.

IMO:

• The Ribbon is awful in everything (except Excel) so the new Explorer doesn't impress me at all
• 3rd party file managers are better (overall) than Windows Explorer (apart from "Jump List" support)

 

[Night Hawk]

You have to learn how to find the "Hidden Mysteries" first like an infant taking the first steps in order to find anything in 8! This is why the blog writers are having a field day bashing 8 while having praised 7 for what it is! A working OS!

Win 8 on the other hand trips the user up where you end up needing the 3rd party help of the growing number of Start menu replacement apps as well as a few others being seen like the ModernMix to windows-wise Metro apps into windows you can close with a click on the X brought back as well as being able to drag to resize each!

 

[Lone Browncoat]

You have to learn how to find the "Hidden Mysteries" first like an infant taking the first steps in order to find anything in 8! This is why the blog writers are having a field day bashing 8 while having praised 7 for what it is! A working OS!

Win 8 on the other hand trips the user up where you end up needing the 3rd party

Or blow 40-60 bucks on another big, thick "Que" book! :sarc:

 

[Night Hawk]

Well some retail outlets like Staples Office Supply stores are offering free lessens when buying any new 8 pc be it a desktop, laptop, or tablet. They realized some help was going to be needed in order to sell anything with 8 on it as well as the OEMs coming up with their own substitutions for the Start menu most will be looking for now gone for good?!

 

[boohbah]

....and you have Win7 with a little bit of Explorer improvement.

In W7, you can have the Details & Preview panes running at the same time.
I could never achieve that with the W8 Preview versions.
I suppose if a user likes the "Ribbon", they could overlook that.

Let's face it, all that the "Ribbon" does is restore the menus and toolbars, that Vista and W7 inexplicably got rid of.

IMO:

• The Ribbon is awful in everything (except Excel) so the new Explorer doesn't impress me at all
• 3rd party file managers are better (overall) than Windows Explorer (apart from "Jump List" support)

it is possible to have the details and preview pane showing as they did in 7, here is my set up showing just that, however it did take a theme hack to do it.

 

[PaulGo]

I hope Microsoft will realize the are leaving mant loyal customers scratching their heads in disbelief over what they are doing. I am begining to think current management refuses to believe they can do anythiig wrong. The only solution may be a change of management.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Aha

it is possible to have the details and preview pane showing as they did in 7, here is my set up showing just that, however it did take a theme hack to do it.

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I meant in an unmodified version of W8.

I've never installed any themes in my Windows installs.
It makes sense that some sort of hack/theme could do it.

 

[whs]

Well some retail outlets like Staples Office Supply stores are offering free lessens when buying any new 8 pc be it a desktop, laptop, or tablet. They realized some help was going to be needed in order to sell anything with 8 on it as well as the OEMs coming up with their own substitutions for the Start menu most will be looking for now gone for good?!

Yeah, I was at Staples the other day and wanted to check out their Windows 8 instructions. But at the instructions desk, the PC was disconnected and they had no instructor.

 

[marsmimar]

Well some retail outlets like Staples Office Supply stores are offering free lessens when buying any new 8 pc be it a desktop, laptop, or tablet. They realized some help was going to be needed in order to sell anything with 8 on it as well as the OEMs coming up with their own substitutions for the Start menu most will be looking for now gone for good?!

Yeah, I was at Staples the other day and wanted to check out their Windows 8 instructions. But at the instructions desk, the PC was disconnected and they had no instructor.

Maybe they were attending a course on how to best use Windows 8.

 

[gregrocker]

That's another thing besides the fact that no one is trying or buying Win8 at these big box stores. I'm so boggled by this I stop by every one I see to watch. One problem is that many of them don't work, including the 2-3 touchscreens which have Win8 on them.

And if you figure out how to click around on the Metro screen and find the instruction video it has such an advanced demo it only boggles you more. You'd have to have the skills of a Benihana chef to do all that touch-tossing, pinching and other finger whirly-gigging. and they're trying to sell this mostly on non-touchscreens so who made this blunder? Now watch them back away from the mess, slowly.

It only aggravates consumers who are bucking up to move from XP, or want to see what could possibly improve on Win7. Most want a competent, easily-intuitive (Win7) desktop experience, not a phone or Ipad app.