Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory.

[dmex]

LOL. Where will Task Manager put Gulftown?

It'll never run out of space

HAHA. Where did you find that?

Google Search "task manager 256 cores" since thats how many you can now run Windows on since Windows 7

What Does 256 Cores Look Like? – Intel Software Network Blogs

 

[tw33k]

It'll never run out of space

lol

 

[Night Hawk]

FAKE, I guarantee this whole story was faked and by none other than Randall C. Kennedy!

http://www.sevenforums.com/news/65518-windows-metrics-source-lies-about-identity.html

Edit: He's been fired from Infoworld for this; An unfortunate ending | Business - InfoWorld

As soon as I saw the reluctance on the part of the ZD Net writer who referred to the OP's original article to even cover it I knew this was nothing but "utter nonsense"! If 7 maxed memory out to 86% everyone here would have already been screaming and jumping up and down when the beta builds were first run about it!

InfoWorld did the right thing there in getting rid of a ... you fill in the blanks! Even Vista never maxed out 86% while being looked down on often enough. Obviously someone was more interested in generating a controversy rather then stating the actual facts.

 

[hotdogofdoom]

Well I have 3 computers running win7. One is my gaming pc, one is movie watching, the other is only internets.

1. gaming pc: Built from Newegg.com

athlon64 x2 6000
3gb ddr2 (4th ram stick died)
gefoce260gtx
win7 64bit rc1

1. movie watching pc: Built from Newegg.com

athlon64x2 3800
4gb ddr2
geforce 7000gs (dont remember exactly what card off top of my head)
win7 64bit rc1

1. internets pc: Compaq Presario 5005sr + upgrades

P3 933 coppermine
512megs sdram
gefoceFX 5200 pci 256meg
win7 32bit rc1

Only my internet pc actually runs out of ram. But it only has avg/spybot/firefox running so its no problem. The p3 computer came with WinME,128megs of sdram, so running win7 on its like trying to run a F1race with a Model T. It chugs along and don't crash. It has yet to lock up on me. More than i can say for winME. It locked up every 30min with that. Tryed running WoW on it but got like 4fps. (even with min settings WoW wants to use about 250-500 megs of ram. So it uses the hdd.)
Well the gaming one did run out of ram a few days ago. I was playing WoW, in a endgame raid with 24 other people. Max settings. Firefox with like 10 tabs open. Avg thought it would be funny to pic that moment to run a scan. Win7 popped up telling me to close ether ventrilo or firefox.

So this "Win7 using all your ram" is nonsense. Unless your trying to use it on a computer built to run ME.

 

[dmex]

So this "Win7 using all your ram" is nonsense. Unless your trying to use it on a computer built to run ME.

Hi hotdogofdoom and welcome to the forum

Yes its nonsence, the source of the article and his company were debunked and later found out as frauds.

Steven

 

[Night Hawk]

Welcome of SF! hotdogofdoom

Keeping that old FX5200 system running. Last year when the 7 beta builds were first available a few reported running those on oldies seeing only 512mb of memory!

DDR PC2700 and PC3200 memory is still available if that will take 1gb or more to give that case a boost. But the RCs at this time will be hitting the 3/1/2010 shutdown every 2 hours of activiry problem. Upgrade to retail along with the memory upgrade!

 

[chrysalis]

the reason is superfetch, also if 64bit is used then the filesystem cache is allowed to grow to a larger size then it did in XP, not sure about compared to vista.

Unused ram is usually wasted ram, however the problem could be that superfetch is too agressive and the caching algorithms dont free ram when an app requests it. I have 6 gig of ram and did at the start of this week have some swapping occuring.

Also I noticed windows seven allocates normal ram to graphics usage even with a dedicated graphics card, my 8800GT has 512meg onboard memory and over 2 gig of ram allocated to shared video memory.

 

[Win7User512]

Also I noticed windows seven allocates normal ram to graphics usage even with a dedicated graphics card, my 8800GT has 512meg onboard memory and over 2 gig of ram allocated to shared video memory.

Do you know if this is a configuration you can turn off?

 

[stormy13]

Also I noticed windows seven allocates normal ram to graphics usage even with a dedicated graphics card, my 8800GT has 512meg onboard memory and over 2 gig of ram allocated to shared video memory.

Do you know if this is a configuration you can turn off?

There is nothing to turn off, as there is no memory allocated to a discrete video card. What it is is virtualized memory, sort of like a pagefile for the video card and only used if it is needed.

 

[seekermeister]

There is nothing to turn off, as there is no memory allocated to a discrete video card. What it is is virtualized memory, sort of like a pagefile for the video card and only used if it is needed.

This seems to relate to a question that I recently posted, but didn't get the answer to...when I started to swap a 8800GTS, to replace the one that I'm using, I found that the replacement was defective. The part that confused me, is that when I tried to boot with it, the BIOS produced a beep code that meant that there was a memory corruption in the uppper 64MB of memory. I don't believe that my BIOS settings have any option to turn video memory either on or off, so I was wondering how a defective card could have this effect? However, if this video memory is something like a pagefile, that would sound like something residing in this hard drive's pagefile, instead of on the physical RAM. If that is so, I'm still confused how a bad video card could produce that kind of beep code?

 

[Win7User512]

Also I noticed windows seven allocates normal ram to graphics usage even with a dedicated graphics card, my 8800GT has 512meg onboard memory and over 2 gig of ram allocated to shared video memory.

Do you know if this is a configuration you can turn off?

There is nothing to turn off, as there is no memory allocated to a discrete video card. What it is is virtualized memory, sort of like a pagefile for the video card and only used if it is needed.

Um..I meant can you stop it from allocating shared memory if there is a dedicated card present.

 

[stormy13]

Um..I meant can you stop it from allocating shared memory if there is a dedicated card present.

There is nothing to turn off. Blame it on Microsoft and their bad naming schemes, as there is no memory being shared. Think of it like the old AGP Aperture setting (bios setting), it "allocated" a se5t amount of ram for if and when the video card ran and was only ever used if the video card's memory was maxed out. Till that happened nothing was used or taken away.

 

[tcman47]

I am using Windows 7 64bit with 8gb of ddr2 ram and a q9400 quad-core cpu, haven't seen any big issues with memory yet.

Been playing Dirt2 for awhile now and no problems whatsoever, I am however still experiencing blue screen crashes every once in awhile, the error code says its a hardware issue, maybe my memory is mismatched but I don't think so.

TC

 

[WDAexodus]

I love blogger's with alter ego's. Let's see how long the Apple monkey's continue to try to push this story.

 

[Spidey1976]

I'm running 8gb on 64-bit OS, and only use 16% of the RAM at stand still - I also run Dragon Age: Origins at the highest visual settings just fine

 

[Night Hawk]

I am using Windows 7 64bit with 8gb of ddr2 ram and a q9400 quad-core cpu, haven't seen any big issues with memory yet.

Been playing Dirt2 for awhile now and no problems whatsoever, I am however still experiencing blue screen crashes every once in awhile, the error code says its a hardware issue, maybe my memory is mismatched but I don't think so.

TC

If you mixed different brands of memory the timings could be slightly off. The options for 8gb are four 2gb matched dimms in a set or a pair of 4gb dimms(expensive as ever).

As for pc games they are written to run on systems with far less memory. The BSODs could well be the game itself.

I haven't seen one game that won't crash at some point on any version of Windows. The error codes generated can often be misleading suggesting a hardware fault when none are present.

Here when running some old games that love crashing the game is simply restarted to resume where it left off unless you end up with a Windows lockup. Once the game is restarted it will act like nothing ever happened.

 

[smiths22]

That explain the sound cracks.

 

[Nero]

That is something I do not understand. When I walk thru the computer stores, most Win7 systems have 4GBs and more - and they all have 64bit. No way to find a 32bit system which we were looking for because a friend needed that to run a bundle of very expensive programs for her business from 32bit Vista. My win7 systems usually run around 1GB of RAM usage. So where is the problem.

exactly...I never go over 1.5 gb memory out of 6 installed...

 

[severedsolo]

Any examples of apps which are 32-bit that aren't running properly?

gazillionaire Deluxe (quite an old game from the 9x/ME era of computing) wont run on 64 bit, 32 bit is fine, there are a few other problem programs too cant remember them off the top of my head

 

[lgp]

I have an old PC with 1GB of RAM with XP and Win 7 both 32bit installed and Win 7 always crashes due to lack of RAM.

I have installed 7 on several PCs with 1GB of RAM with no hiccups whatsoever. True, the memory usage is usually fluctuating between 40 - 80% with this few RAM, but still no hiccups.

Must be some bloatware or malware running. If not, then there's probably a device driver issue you got.

On the topic at hand, I believe that 'study' was made on people who have lots of bloatware. I am rather inclined to think the 'study' may have been deliberately done on people who are not too technically aware just so the results may be skewed.

My own 7 setup with only 2GB of RAM never goes beyond 30% on average and the most I've seen it go is during a photoshop session where it went to around 60%.