Motherboard replacement

barryware

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I'm not sure exactly where to post / ask this question..

I have an old HP m8200n desktop.. It has been giving me problems turning on and I suspect the motherboard is the problem.

That said, If I replace the motherboard with the exact same model (nettle2 MCP61PM-HM, ver 1.0B), and use the same processor, (meaning I will take the CPU from the old MB and install it into the new MB) will windows 7 run without having to re-activate it?

Should I also move the BIOS chip from the old to new MB?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Professional
There are two major Win 7 licenses:
Retail - For customers - Can be transferred from one computer to another.
OEM - To be used by Computers builders. Valid only for that computer.

Under OEM license you have two types
- OEM SLP for big builders (HP, Dell, Lenovo etc). This license aren't for sale for customers (and is the one you have)
- OEM System Builder for small builders. This license are the one that you buy at Newegg etc

OEM computers like HP, Lenovo etc has a code in BIOS that is checked by Windows every time you boot.

In other words, the MB you buy must be from HP with a HP BIOS, even if is manufactured by others.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
Have you considered the PSU as being the culprit?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Have you considered the PSU as being the culprit?

I have considered it..

I actually ordered a new PS that should be delivered tomorrow. Just planning ahead incase the problem persists.

It is odd.. The PC will restart via the restart command.. If you shut it down and then try to power it back up, sometimes it will start, sometimes it will just sit there.. Leave it alone for a bit, and then maybe it will start, maybe not.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Professional
I have considered it..

I actually ordered a new PS that should be delivered tomorrow. Just planning ahead incase the problem persists.

It is odd.. The PC will restart via the restart command.. If you shut it down and then try to power it back up, sometimes it will start, sometimes it will just sit there.. Leave it alone for a bit, and then maybe it will start, maybe not.


That certainly could indicate a faulty PS, as the demand from the PS is much greater with a cold start, than from just a restart.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
That certainly could indicate a faulty PS, as the demand from the PS is much greater with a cold start, than from just a restart.

I replaced the PS and it seems that there are no longer any "intermittent" start issues (but it has only been a day and a few starts).

Funny thing... I took out the old PS so I could see what the HP part number was. It turns out that there was a Power UP PU550. I bought this PC right from the HP store years ago. I was amazed to find that an HP pc purchased directly from HP had a 3rd party PowerUp PS in it..

I replaced it with a Thermaltake 600W.

Another interesting tid-bit.. The new PS uses less power (watts) than the old PS according to my UPS that reports load in watts.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Professional
HP is almost like a car manufacture. It doesn't manufacture all parts. Disks, CPU, Memory, PS and even MB may be manufactured by others.

New PS are more efficient than old ones. That explains why UPS reports lower load in watts.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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