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For no particular reason, I just uninstalled AVG Free and have installed Microsoft Security Essentials.

I roamed around in the settings and have a few questions.

There is a "default actions" setting for various levels of threats. I chose these settings:

Severe alert: remove
High alert: quarantine
Medium alert: quarantine
Low alert: allow

Any comments on these choices? Are the consequences of "remove" and "quarantine" effectively the same; eg, I have the same degree of protection in either case? Any reason not to use "quarantine" for severe alerts?

The more important questions follow:

Running MS Security Essentials means you are a "basic" member of MS Spynet. You cannot opt out.

The related privacy policy statements say that MS regularly receives security-related scan reports from users and that the info MIGHT contain personal data, usernames, file paths, etc.

My hard drive setup is as follows:

HD 1: C and D partitions; C is Windows and all apps; D is data only
HD 2: E partition; contains data only (backups of D through several methods)

I am not particularly amused by MS even accidentally and innocently viewing ANY aspect of my data.

So, on the "exclude files and locations" tab, I have chosen to exclude my D and E drives from scanning and real time protection. Hopefully, any scanning and reports will be confined to C only.

Let's stipulate that D and E are known to be clean at this time.

Comments? Dumb, smart, pointless, mediocre, etc?

My "downloads" directory is on D. If I go to a poisonous website and attempt to download something threatening to D:\downloads, am I at risk because protection is turned off for that entire drive?

Or would I be protected nonetheless and the bad file would never be downloaded?

Should I NOT exclude that download directory from realtime and scanning protection? (The settings allow you to exclude by directory, and I could just exclude all folders on D EXCEPT downloads.)
 

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For no particular reason, I just uninstalled AVG Free and have installed Microsoft Security Essentials.

I roamed around in the settings and have a few questions.

There is a "default actions" setting for various levels of threats. I chose these settings:

Severe alert: remove
High alert: quarantine
Medium alert: quarantine
Low alert: allow

Any comments on these choices? Are the consequences of "remove" and "quarantine" effectively the same; eg, I have the same degree of protection in either case? Any reason not to use "quarantine" for severe alerts?

The more important questions follow:

Running MS Security Essentials means you are a "basic" member of MS Spynet. You cannot opt out.

The related privacy policy statements say that MS regularly receives security-related scan reports from users and that the info MIGHT contain personal data, usernames, file paths, etc.

My hard drive setup is as follows:

HD 1: C and D partitions; C is Windows and all apps; D is data only
HD 2: E partition; contains data only (backups of D through several methods)

I am not particularly amused by MS even accidentally and innocently viewing ANY aspect of my data.

So, on the "exclude files and locations" tab, I have chosen to exclude my D and E drives from scanning and real time protection. Hopefully, any scanning and reports will be confined to C only.

Let's stipulate that D and E are known to be clean at this time.

Comments? Dumb, smart, pointless, mediocre, etc?

My "downloads" directory is on D. If I go to a poisonous website and attempt to download something threatening to D:\downloads, am I at risk because protection is turned off for that entire drive?

Or would I be protected nonetheless and the bad file would never be downloaded?

Should I NOT exclude that download directory from realtime and scanning protection? (The settings allow you to exclude by directory, and I could just exclude all folders on D EXCEPT downloads.)

hi and welcome

First samrt move on giving avg the heave. I do lots of BSOD's analysis and I have seen to many avg couased.
Default actions are fine, even a little to extreme for me but hey cautious is good.

I understand how you feel abt MS but which is worse them maybe seeing data or a single download wiping it? BTW there is a way to block it in a firewall.
I would leave it on for all drives but I just lost 100 gigs worth of media so, either way thething that is going to save you or sink you is what you click on

Good Luck


Kenn J++
 

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Ken:

Can you comment specifically on why data drives should be included?

Because a threat might beat the antivirus, land on C, and then reformat or otherwise harm other partitions or drives?

Can a threat directly attack a non-system partition or drive? Or can it only get at non-system partitions and drives after first penetrating C??

Care to comment on how you lost 100 gigs? Failure of what?
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Because a threat might beat the antivirus, land on C, and then reformat or otherwise harm other partitions or drives?

Can a threat directly attack a non-system partition or drive? Or can it only get at non-system partitions and drives after first penetrating C??

If malware were to get on your computer, it can do anything including put itself on the other drives for future infection if you attempt to move the original infection. That could be one example.

But honestly, you are being over paranoid about Microsoft Spynet. The data they receive does not identify you or ever used outside of those creating new virus definitions. And it only sends reports about infections it has found. It does not randomly scan your data sending reports when ever.

Send basic information to Microsoft about software that MSE detects, including where the software came from, the actions that you apply or that MSE applies automatically, and whether the actions were successful. In some instances, personal information might unintentionally be sent to Microsoft. However, Microsoft will not use this information to identify you or to contact you.
 

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Thanks for the comments, Logicearth.

Ken mentioned configuring a firewall to control the outbound communications of MS Security Essentials.

I have very little experience configuring firewalls, but I am going to root around in the tutorials on this site to see if I can turn off outbound communications by Security Essentials.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Why do you need to block it?
You are best off just leaving things as they are.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
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