MS Security Essentials. Why is it free?

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Why is this AV program free and how does it compare with Norton? I am looking for a catch here somewhere. :what:
 

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Hi.
While I can't answer your question about why they give it away, I can tell you I prefer it to Norton or AVG, and will never use anything else from now on.
 

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The catch i think is that you need to have your windows validated as geniune, no modifications of any kind to the operating system, for you to install it for free. :D
 

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There are several free AV programs out there. I prefer MSE to Norton; however, I don't use either of those.
 

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I liked and used MSE and would have continued to use it. But last week they changed it to only use windows update. AND it changed my settings to auto download and install. All without telling me it was going to do that.

I removed it from my system and won't reinstall it.
 

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Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig.
 

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Why is this AV program free and how does it compare with Norton? I am looking for a catch here somewhere. :what:

the best explaination IMHO...is here...http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/mse_beta.asp
Why MSE?

Microsoft created MSE to address a very simple problem: Far too many PCs are unprotected with out-of-date anti-malware products. The company tells me there are a number of reasons for this. First, because many new PCs come with only time-limited security solutions, some users believe they're protected even though the initial subscription period may have ended. Some don't even activate the free, bundled solutions at all. Some--especially those in emerging markets--can't or won't pay for security suites, most of which need to be renewed every year.

Meanwhile, the security landscape is evolving. The impact and severity of security threats is increasing and is becoming more professional, with many malware outbreaks aimed specifically at financial fraud. Security software vendors are constantly adapting their products to meet these evolving needs, but these products are often complex and increasingly address a number of non-security tasks.

So MSE comes into this world and is designed to address the needs of users who are often not protected, for one reason or another. From a broad perspective, MSE works side-by-side with Microsoft's other security technologies, including those built into Windows and accessory products like the Malicious Software Removal Tool, but adding the crucial element of real time protection. It is based on the same trusted and well-regarded security engine that is used by Microsoft's Forefront line of products. It is incredibly easy to install and use. And, perhaps best of all, it is almost completely innocuous: Unlike the OneCare product it replaces, MSE is small and light and runs quietly in the background with a nary a chatty pop-up to be found. Finally, Microsoft has gotten client security right.

Oh, and it's absolutely free. As long as you have an activated, known-good (i.e. "Genuine") copy of Windows XP, Vista, or 7, you're good to go. Microsoft Security Essentials is just part of the package, a perk for users of Microsoft's modern Windows versions. And unlike other free solutions, Microsoft won't use MSE as a vehicle for up-sell. It just does what it does, and it will never prompt you to purchase a Pro version or whatever. There's no registration, no information collection, no annual worry. You install it and forget it, and it keeps you safe.

as for MSE vis-i-vis Norton...free v/s paid etc ....the good...the bad....the rants have had their fare share......read at leisure ;)

Rivals mock Microsoft Security Essentials download - Techworld.com
Can Microsoft Security Essentials beat Norton? | PC Pro blog
Symantec Rant Against Microsoft Security Essentials Backfires - Other security professionals say the product is decent or pretty good - Softpedia
Microsoft Security Essentials? | ESET ThreatBlog
 
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Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig.

Actually the new versions of NIS is rated as one of the best.
Very low system impact, low false positive rate, and very high virus and spyware detection rate. In fact, it will outperform most other AV suites now.

As far MSE goes, its very good for a free AV. But Windows must be validated and flagged as genuine to install & use it



IMHO:
MSE is good and its free.
Norton does alot better job, with both viruses & spyware and seldom has a false positive.
However, it is obviously not free.

If you are looking for a free AV, MSE is a good choice.
If looking to purchase a suite, NIS 2010 is certainly worth looking into to.
 

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Reason for free..... It is in MS's best interest to make Windows secure. They have had such a reputation for security holes and viruses that it makes sense.
 

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Norton/Symantec AV is crap, and this is known by most computer hobbyists. Personally, I prefer Avira, since it's lightweight, thorough, and takes advantage of multiple cores. I switched after a suggestion from a friend after AVG totally overlooked 6 trojans on my old XP rig.


Yeah.... I'll have to disagree with you on this one. Norton was not up to scratch for a few versions 5 or 6 years ago, but since then have improved tremendously. Being a Norton 360 user since version 1, every edition has improved over the last. Maybe one of the lightest running suites on the market at the moment.



MSE is Microsoft's attempt to clean the net up a little bit. Not everyone can afford a paid suite. I read somewhere Microsoft is really targeting MSE to underprivileged areas of the world so everyone can have some sort of reliable protection.

A good move by Microsoft in my opinion.
 

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Really? Well I value your opinions guys. I was talking about previous versions, especially OEM bundleware. I guess next time I won't overlook it.
 

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Really? Well I value your opinions guys. I was talking about previous versions, especially OEM bundleware. I guess next time I won't overlook it.

I understand.... One of the hardest things to overcome is bad reputation. Norton is getting there though.
 

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I certainly agree. In the past Norton had a horrible rep.

I too was one of the many who would steer clear of the older versions at all costs.
 

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I certainly agree. In the past Norton had a horrible rep.

I too was one of the many who would steer clear of the older versions at all costs.

Ditto. Previously it had evolved into bloatware.
 

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Hi there
Why am I reading the downside of using MSE is that you have to use a Validated copy of Windows --- what's wrong with that. I can't see in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER that having to validate your copy of Windows is a downside.

In fact I'd like to see ALL non validated copies of Windows stop working after warning users they have xxx days or whatever to get a genuine Windows license.

Now as to why MSE is free -- well I'm of the old school who thinks that a basic security package should be an INTEGRAL part of the OS and not an add on. I don't see anything wrong with extra addons but basic decent security should be built into the OS as standard. The OS kernel should always be tamperproof for "normal users".

It's also in MS's interest to ensure its OS is safe -- what business - or casual user for that matter is going to trust an OS that allows unauthorized "3rd parties" to collect and steal private data.

Trojans and Viruses are very much passe these days -- real damage is done now by identy theft and other nasty "Social Engineering" attacks.

You'll only get a trojan these days if you download movies / games / software from "unauthorized" sources like warez / torrents etc.

People --including the hackers themselves -- have moved on to much higher stakes - so I think a lot of the paid for 3rd party security software suppliers won't be in business for too much longer -- they are spending too much time trying to fix YESTERDAY's problems.

A few corporate suppliers will survive - but the whole emphasis on computer protection has changed significantly these days -- and with The Cloud -- real time protection becomes ever more important -- and this really needs to be built into the OS kernel itself -- obviously MS is king here.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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That's a dying wish. RemoveWAT doesn't bypass the activation security, it disables it.
 

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I'm trying to say there are applications that will disable the security and still allow you to get updates, so there's a slim chance of getting caught.
 

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Thanks for the clarification and you are right. But that is still piracy and illegal.
 

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and it wont be long until MS finds a way to disable removeWAT ... and the dance continues...
 

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