Multi Router Network - Configure

How to Set Up a Network Using 2 (or more) Routers


   Note
Before attempting this tutorial, please be familiar with the following terms:

   Note


DCHP, LAN, NAT, Switch, Gateway.​



Also please be familiar with how to configure your router(s) Every router is different so I can't provide a "one-shot" solution. I would only recommend this if you have at least a basic knowledge of networking.​



For the above reasons I haven't included screenshots. There really is no point. Screenshots on my router's will probably not help you at all. Sorry.​




(VERY IMPORTANT) Configure everything I am telling you to do here via Ethernet NOT wireless, the last thing we want is for your wireless to drop at the wrong moment and screw the settings over​



(VERY IMPORTANT 2)! Keep both routers disconnected from each other until I tell you to connect them! Otherwise they screw each other over and give you no network access. Also don't connect other machines except the one your configuring the router with. The reason for this is we are messing with settings, so any rules which apply now won't apply once you have done it. Hence no network access.​



(VERY IMPORTANT 3) BACKUP YOUR ROUTER SETTINGS If you follow this guide then I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I have done this on several routers now. However! there is always that one time it doesn't work. Therefore either, write down the settings before you start fiddling, for both routers. or if your routers have the option, back them up (My router has this option under the "Maintenance" section)​





Section 1 - Placing The Network's Infrastructure



Lets Get Started

1) Decide which router is the gateway (which will bind the network together), I chose it to be the one connected to the Internet, I would recommend you do the same.

2) Login to your new gateway and give it an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and set the subnet 255.255.255.0

3) Enable DCHP and the NAT firewall and change the DCHP pool to assign addresses from 192.168.1.2 through to 192.168.1.252 (there is a very good reason why we don't use all the addresses as you will see in a minute)

4) logout of the router and disconnect. Then reconnect and check everything is working (IE you can get on the internet etc.) then disconnect again.

5) Connect to the 2nd router (from this point on I will call it "the switch" as that is really what it is now, we don't want it to act like a router any more)

6) Log in to the switch, give it an IP address of 192.168.1.253 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 (see why we didn't use all the addresses now?) It is very important that you give it a IP address which is OUTSIDE the DCHP pool of the gateway.

7) Disable the NAT firewall, you don't need it, thats what the gateway is for. and it will cause you problems down the line.

8) Turn off DCHP in the switch. Now it is entirely possible at this point that you will lose connection to the switch. Don't worry, that is normal. hence why I told you to set everything up before hand. The reason is that the switch is no longer handing out IP addresses, this will all be handled by the gateway in our final setup. If you want to test that it is working then give yourself a static IP address: PortForward.com - Free Help Setting up Your Router or Firewall and reconnect. (Incidentally, that is also a guide on how to change the default gateway which may be needed later on)

9) Disconnect from the switch (Pull the cable)

10) REMOVE your static IP address if you used one in the last step. (change it back to "Auto")

11) Connect the Gateway to the Switch via Ethernet. Depending on the router's you may have to use Crossover Cable for this. In my experience though, most modern routers come with what is known as "Auto Uplink Sensing" which means it will not need Crossover Cable. Otherwise you will I'm afraid. You can test whether you need Crossover Cable in the next step.

12) Connect via Ethernet to the Switch. Now with a little bit of luck, everything should work and the Gateway will report itself to Windows and assign you an IP address. If it doesn't then one of two things have gone wrong:
a) The Gateway isn't reporting itself properly, in which case you need to change the Default Gateway (thats in the Static IP address guide above) If this is the case, then you will need to reconnect to the Gateway directly and change the DCHP pool so that you have a Static IP which is outside the Pool.

b) You need Crossover Cable (as detailed above)
   Note
A note about networks with more than 2 routers. There must be at any time only ONE gateway. Therefore any additional routers introduced to the network must be configured like the Switch


Section 2 - "Look Mum No Wires" - Making the Network Wireless


Setting up the wireless is probably the easiest part of this tutorial. If you have followed me so far, then this last little bit will be very easy. In this section, our ultimate goal is to have a network where you can log into any access point with the same credentials, and your PC will see it as the same network.​



Lets Get Started



If you already have the Infrastructure set up, then you can do this by plugging into either router. Just remember, the gateway is at 192.168.1.1 and the switch is 192.168.1.253 the following options need to be changed in BOTH routers:​



1) the SSID (Wireless name) needs to be Identical in both cases (including Capitalisation)​



2) Any Security (WPA, MAC Filtering etc.) needs to also be Identical, including passphrases. otherwise your PC will not be able to log in to any router.​



3) Set the Channel to Auto. There is so much conflicting information out there on this one, some say set it to different channels, some say make them the same channel. I say set it to Auto and let the router decide. It's never failed me.​



Now, if you have done this right. After the first time you log into the network, you PC should automatically log into the closest router. Hence always giving you the best Wireless signal.​



   Note
If you are in the habit of moving about, your PC will NOT automatically "jump" routers if another one has a stronger signal, you will need to disconnect and reconnect manually



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Nice write up and thank you for it.

Ok i just want to ask is this what i would do for my setup or some thing a bit different. Here is what i want, i have more then 10 items online and i want to have some on one network and the others on another one.

House setup is this, my wife and 2 kids live upstairs and mother/father and brother in-law down stairs and 1 internet connection, some hardware in the house is

4 HTPC's
3 XBOX's
2 PS3's
5 PC's
4 Laptops
1 Media Server
and phones and other items that use the internet

What i want is to have all the adults stuff on one router and have the kids on the other along with there friends when they come over so that if they don't do as there told, well you know what will happens with the internet lol.
So that means 4 HTPC's 2 XBOX's 2 PS3's 2 Laptops and the media server on one router and the rest and the visiting kids on the other router.

Routers in the house are Cisco DPL3825 (Given to us From ISP)
Linksys E3000 Kids router
Netgear WNDR3700v2 Adults router

Ohh and to make sure the kids router does not need to talk with the adults one at all

It this write up the same way i would set mine up or is there some thing different i need to do.

Thanks for the help :)
 

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I have to disagree with the DHCP Pool settings. If you only have 2 to 20 computer, or even more, you shouild not set the DHCP Pool from .2 to .252. This stops you from assigning Static IPs to things like Printers, which IMHO should always have a static IP. Yes some routers allow you to use the DHCP Pool for static IPs but most do not. Also some router have DHCP IP assignments by MAC address. That is fine if you use them for all or most of your Ethernet devices. Again some router do not have that feature. So if you use don't assign static IPs to things like printers at some point they will get a different IP from the pool and no one will be able to print.
 

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one question! do i need two separate telephone line for two routers?
 

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Good tutorial and I successfully set up the switch and can use that as a second wireless access.

I want to connect wired devices to the switch, is that possible at all? I have tried but it doesn't seem to work at all. Is there something I need to set if i want LAN in addition to Wifi from that switch? OR is this a function of the router and I need a new router? I use an old Netgear WPN824v2 as switch.

I noticed the routers have "RIP" settings. do they mean anything for this? (the router kind of explains what it is, but not sure what it means)

BTW, I learned the hard way that the switch LAN cable from the Gateway needs to be plugged into one of the 4 ports, and not in that single port normally coming from the Modem. The booby trap here is that it still shows a strong wireless signal, but doesn't actually work (I tried with my phone). I also decided to give switch a different SSID so I see what I'm currently connected to. My devices automatically connect to the stronger signal anyway.
 

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Thank you for the tutorial, it made sense and I have a setup. I also bought an extender from Netgear to reach further with wireless. My thought was that this would extend the range of my current SSID. I was surprised that the SSID_Ext was provided which turns out to be a separate WiFi item.

My question is there a way to have that extender be on the same SSID as my original and not separate a different SSID requiring a different password?
 

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11) Connect the Gateway to the Switch via Ethernet.
Connect how? LAN of Gateway to LAN of switch? or to the WAN port of switch?
Switch = Router 2.
 
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Still refering to this tutorial for others who are interested. Easiest and clearest one I have seen so far!
Love the clear clafication for two different static IP ranges, most other tutorials always miss this one out... ;)
 
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