NEW asus system COMPLETE random bsod

ok after 20 minutes up and running got one blue screen. bluescreenview lists "bug check string" as KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED ntf.sys and ntoskrnle.exe are listed in RED if these dumps will help with just having more ill continue but if these dumps wont provide the necessary info... not sure next post should include as many dumps as i can get in the next 12 hours
 

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Ok.... post a few if possible. Hope those will be helpful.
 

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Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B85M-D3H
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Corsair Vengence 4GB x2 (8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz)
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2047MB GeForce GTS 450 (ZOTAC International)
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Onboard (Realtek High Definition Audio)
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LG Flatron E2040T
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1600x900
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Western Digital 1 TB
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Corsair VS550
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Cooler Master K380
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Cooler Master Seidon 120V Plus
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Logitech MK260r
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PMPL Broadband
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Windows Defender + MBAM
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Dell Studio 15" Laptop
ok only got 2 so far but here they are
 

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ok i got 3 more and im noticing some bit of patterns

the dump labeld 3rd dump happened while watching a movie in wmp
the dump labled 4th dump happened while watching a movie in wmp
both these dumps point to the atikmdag.sys (video im asuming)

if im doing nothing or manipulating files i get dumps similiar to the one labled 5th dump not sure if that means anything.
 

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another thing that i have noticed that a bsod will happen shortly after nothing will open. like i go to open a movie.... and i get an error saying something to the effect of "windows_media_player_path/server access denied or unavailable" kind of odd
 

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so i am going to assume that there is definitely a video driver issue. just in case you all agree im not sure where to find a more up to date driver im running 8.982.2.0.0 DRIVER DATE: 7/27/2012 ....i cant find one newer than that.....ok been working on this for hours need some sleep will check back tomorrow

again THANKS a million arc,koolkat,vir gnarus :D
 

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I noticed Drive Verifier wasn't on for any of these. When you clicked the "Finish" button after setting up Driver Verifier, did you restart the PC afterwards? That's necessary, as otherwise Driver Verifier will not activate without it. Crashing does not count, so if you setup DV but fail to restart and end up crashing the PC, the changes will not be saved and you'll have to set it up again.
 

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I noticed Drive Verifier wasn't on for any of these. When you clicked the "Finish" button after setting up Driver Verifier, did you restart the PC afterwards? That's necessary, as otherwise Driver Verifier will not activate without it. Crashing does not count, so if you setup DV but fail to restart and end up crashing the PC, the changes will not be saved and you'll have to set it up again.

yeah i posted earlier that i ran driver verifier as defined in the link you gave me to the T. and yes i rebooted and did EVERYTHING it said.... with drive verifier on the system WOULD NOT crash it would only freeze.......should i try it again?
 

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Did you set it up exactly as explained in the article? This includes making sure to only select certain checks and to only select drivers that do not have Microsoft as the listed Corporation. Otherwise stuff like freezing can occur.

As for the freezing, can you describe it? When does it happen? Is it an instant lock-up (no cursor movement, no responsiveness), or does it increasingly become unresponsive, and if so, does it increase slowly or rapidly?
 

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Did you set it up exactly as explained in the article? This includes making sure to only select certain checks and to only select drivers that do not have Microsoft as the listed Corporation. Otherwise stuff like freezing can occur.

As for the freezing, can you describe it? When does it happen? Is it an instant lock-up (no cursor movement, no responsiveness), or does it increasingly become unresponsive, and if so, does it increase slowly or rapidly?

yes as far as EVERY detail being followed i was very methodical. the checks and drivers are exactly as it says

the freezing so far seemed instantaneous after an hours use or so no cursor movement no keyboard response it happened twice while watching a movie in wmp almost at the same time. and once while doing nothing just letting the computer sit. it froze a lot sooner not doing anything than while playing the video
 
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ok i just ran drive verifier again and have a video running about 10 minutes in the video is running SUPER slow still hasnt frozen but to answser the instantaneous question it looks like its a little less than instant

now the video has slowed to a crawl 1fpm id guess but the system is still responding
 

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Ok, and just to make sure I'm completely understanding things here, this does NOT occur when Driver Verifier is off, correct? You can check if DV is on or not by either going into command prompt and typing verifier /query or opening DV up as normal and clicking "Display existing settings" then Next. If it shows a list of drivers and it shows checks are enabled, then it's obviously on.

The freezing thing when DV is on kinda puts a big damper on our endeavor to find cause for this, as it's rather crucial in making sure the system BSODs when the culprit is causing the problem and not afterwards. Without those crashdumps we're kind of at a loss.

The only other option I have for gettin more info on this besides DV is to have it crash one more time and then send us the MEMORY.DMP file located in your Windows directory. It'll compress heavily in a zip, rar or other archive variant, but it'll still be too big here. Upload to a 3rd-party filesharing site and I'll have a look at it to see what I can come up with, but I can't guarantee I'll find something conclusive (better than nothing, though). Make sure to explain when the crash occurred and what the PC was doing at the time.

While we're working on figuring it out through this route, you can run some more hardware tests. Have Prime95 going on Torture Test on Blend settings overnight. Then follow that up with another overnighter but on Large FFT settings instead. If your system crashes during any of the runs, send us the crashdumps (minidumps might just be fine here, no kernel dump from MEMORY.DMP). If a test fails in Blend but not Large FFTs, you have most likely a motherboard/RAM issue. If test fails on Large FFTs but not Blend, most likely an internal CPU failure. If it fails on both, it can be anything but most likely bad CPU.

As for it being a GPU problem here, can you try a beta version of the driver, or perhaps a rollback? Also, if you have onboard graphics controller on your mobo, you can try switching to that to see if things stabilize. If they do, it's a driver bug or a graphics card problem. Or if you have a different video card you can swap that in and try that a bit to see how things go.

It may very well be the graphics card, which isn't a rare issue as it's always possible to get a dud piece of hardware for a new system. Nevertheless, unless you're willing to go the caveman route and start swapping hardware, it's cheaper to try and get more info on this and analyze it further than to go off buying more stuff.
 

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Ok, and just to make sure I'm completely understanding things here, this does NOT occur when Driver Verifier is off, correct? You can check if DV is on or not by either going into command prompt and typing verifier /query or opening DV up as normal and clicking "Display existing settings" then Next. If it shows a list of drivers and it shows checks are enabled, then it's obviously on.

The freezing thing when DV is on kinda puts a big damper on our endeavor to find cause for this, as it's rather crucial in making sure the system BSODs when the culprit is causing the problem and not afterwards. Without those crashdumps we're kind of at a loss.

The only other option I have for gettin more info on this besides DV is to have it crash one more time and then send us the MEMORY.DMP file located in your Windows directory. It'll compress heavily in a zip, rar or other archive variant, but it'll still be too big here. Upload to a 3rd-party filesharing site and I'll have a look at it to see what I can come up with, but I can't guarantee I'll find something conclusive (better than nothing, though). Make sure to explain when the crash occurred and what the PC was doing at the time.

While we're working on figuring it out through this route, you can run some more hardware tests. Have Prime95 going on Torture Test on Blend settings overnight. Then follow that up with another overnighter but on Large FFT settings instead. If your system crashes during any of the runs, send us the crashdumps (minidumps might just be fine here, no kernel dump from MEMORY.DMP). If a test fails in Blend but not Large FFTs, you have most likely a motherboard/RAM issue. If test fails on Large FFTs but not Blend, most likely an internal CPU failure. If it fails on both, it can be anything but most likely bad CPU.

As for it being a GPU problem here, can you try a beta version of the driver, or perhaps a rollback? Also, if you have onboard graphics controller on your mobo, you can try switching to that to see if things stabilize. If they do, it's a driver bug or a graphics card problem. Or if you have a different video card you can swap that in and try that a bit to see how things go.

It may very well be the graphics card, which isn't a rare issue as it's always possible to get a dud piece of hardware for a new system. Nevertheless, unless you're willing to go the caveman route and start swapping hardware, it's cheaper to try and get more info on this and analyze it further than to go off buying more stuff.

to answer the first question. it freezes with dv on. it BSOD when it is off

i have attatched the results of "verifier /query"

i will work on getting it to crash a final time and uploading the memory.dmp to another site.

as far as prime goes... i just ran a 26 hour blend test a few days ago it ran beautiful so i guess ill start that with the large FFT.

i do have a few cards i can try in it ill have to dig for em again i appreciate the time and effort on your behalf immensely
 
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Hmm, strange, NDIS driver shouldn't be on that list. However, I do notice USBFilter, which is also a driver I saw in one of your crashdumps. That's an outdated (pre-Windows 7) driver that's a gimmick driver, designed to "enhance" USB performance. All I see the potential from it is a cause for instability. Probably will want to remove it or rename it to like usbfilter.sysbak) and test how your system works out afterwards.
 

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Hmm, strange, NDIS driver shouldn't be on that list. However, I do notice USBFilter, which is also a driver I saw in one of your crashdumps. That's an outdated (pre-Windows 7) driver that's a gimmick driver, designed to "enhance" USB performance. All I see the potential from it is a cause for instability. Probably will want to remove it or rename it to like usbfilter.sysbak) and test how your system works out afterwards.

i only selected non windows drivers... i will double check the ndis driver. and try removing the usbfilter driver once i complete the prime95 big FFT test
 

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I just noticed your post about DV causing extreme video output slowdown. Was everything else on Windows responsive?

Part of me really wants to do a manual crash here. If you can get it to manually crash using this method while you're experiencing that extreme video sluggishness, and send us a MEMORY.DMP of that, perhaps we might have the information we seek.

As for video playing, have you used various video players: VLC, Media Player Classic, Windows Media Player, etc.? Ensure that the video playback problem isn't something specific to one player but occurs with multiple.
 

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I just noticed your post about DV causing extreme video output slowdown. Was everything else on Windows responsive?

Part of me really wants to do a manual crash here. If you can get it to manually crash using this method while you're experiencing that extreme video sluggishness, and send us a MEMORY.DMP of that, perhaps we might have the information we seek.

As for video playing, have you used various video players: VLC, Media Player Classic, Windows Media Player, etc.? Ensure that the video playback problem isn't something specific to one player but occurs with multiple.

so should i stop the prime95 testing and try for the manual crash? and if so i will want to do this while the dv is on correct?

as far as video playback i have only played through windows media player. but i can add vlc and classic to try them as well
 

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It's probably best to run Prime95 when the system is idle overnight. But yes, I'd prefer the manual crash at the moment.
 

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ok ill get on it
 

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I just noticed your post about DV causing extreme video output slowdown. Was everything else on Windows responsive?

yes everything else seemed fairly responsive
 

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