New build ..

[bmb]

I'm thinking about building a new computer I think I have all the necessary components I need but could someone please have a look and see if what i'm buying Good and compatible with the rest of the build.i gonna use this for gaming,HDfilm(PC to TV),Converting video(Wants to use this rig at least next 3 years without upgrading.)


Asus Crosshair IV Formula (littlebit expensive)
OR
Asus M4A89TD PRO/USB3
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
Corsair 4GB (2x2048MB) 1600MHz XMS3
AMD Phenom2 X6 1090T BE
PowerColor Radeon HD5850 PCS
Noctua NH-D14, 140mm
Corsair HX 650W 80+
Fractal Design Define R3, Svart
Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS Retail


No plan for Overclocking and SSD i will buy later

here is link :http://www.inet.se/kategori/31/datorkomponenter
(Swedish )

Thanks in advance

 

[thefabe]

Looks pretty good ,providing links to products would make comparisons a little easier and less work to compare where and what's avalible for suggestions. Fabe

 

[Wishmaster]

Looks good.
You're PSU choice is solid IMHO. Well built.



---AS far as the board and CPU, do you simply prefer AMD or going for the 6 cores?

The reason I ask is you can build a core i7 system, something like:
i7-930 -> Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
Gigabyte x58 -> Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

And would be the same( price wise) or less than the CPU, MOBO Combo you have chosen.

Not to mention, slightly more processing power.
(Yes, even though it appears slower mhz wise)

Keep in mind he extra 2 cores really wont help much at all, if any. For most things. especially gaming, they'd be useless. (I know future proof )
Perhaps some video encoders, but I think the app would have to be coded for 6 cores ..
Heres some Benchmarks of both, at stock and OCd speeds at various different tasks, if it helps:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/27/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition/5

Just a thought of an additional option for your build. It ultimately boils down to your own preferences.


For the graphics, I always prefered Sapphires brand. particularly the Vapor-X or Toxic lines. They run cooler than refrence cooling, and I have always had very good luck with all of them I've owned. (my own personal preference here of course)
Take a look at them and see what you think.
I'm not saying PowerCooler is a bad choice.

Never had one of those, so i can't say one way or the other.

 

[bmb]

Or i should go for this

XFX Radeon HD5850 1GB
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
Fractal Design Define R3
Corsair HX 650W 80+
Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS Retail
Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz
Noctua NH-D14, 140mm
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
OR
Asus P6X58D-E
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz PC3-12800

 

[ZaLiTH]

Or i should go for this

XFX Radeon HD5850 1GB
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
Fractal Design Define R3
Corsair HX 650W 80+
Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS Retail
Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz
Noctua NH-D14, 140mm
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
OR
Asus P6X58D-E
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz PC3-12800

You can't go wrong with XFX components (yes I'm an XFX fanboy, check my system specs and you'll see...); their customer service isn't always the most pleasant or helpful, but their products are excellent quality and their graphics cards come with slightly higher clock speeds than other manufacturers...

I do have one point though; 650w is definitely enough for what you've listed, but all the boards you've listed (in this post and the first post) support multiple graphics cards... If you're planning to add another card later, get a bigger PSu now and save yourself some money later. If you're not planning to go for CrossFire or SLI, then save yourself some money now and get a single Pci-e board.

 

[thefabe]

Just another reason or opinon on the XFX is the warranty. I either use XFX or Evga cause I've always had great customer service form both. XFX uses the ticket system for questions and RMA;s and personaly I've always been contacted within 24 hrs of submitting one.
So I guess what I'm saying is I like the Card choice. And i agree with the PSU just for future proofing. Fabe

 

[ZaLiTH]

Just another reason or opinon on the XFX is the warranty. I either use XFX or Evga cause I've always had great customer service form both. XFX uses the ticket system for questions and RMA;s and personaly I've always been contacted within 24 hrs of submitting one.
So I guess what I'm saying is I like the Card choice. And i agree with the PSU just for future proofing. Fabe

Of course, I can't believe I forgot to mention that... Although EVGA's double lifetime warranty (only on certain items though) is a very nice deal that XFX haven't attempted yet...

I made that mistake when setting up my machine; now I'm stuck with needing to get a bigger PSU (currently 500w) before I can get a better GPU (hoping for a GTX295); if I can help someone else learn from my mistake, then it wouldn't have been completely in vain... Lol.

 

[Wishmaster]

I would agree that a slightly bigger PSU wouldn't be a bad idea if running multiple GPUs are something you may want to do.

One other thought, I do not know what your budget is, but if you could squeeze in a SSD for the OS and apps would really make a nice performance difference as well.
Something like a 40GB or 80G Intel. Then use the spinning drive for Games and DATA.
Although, this could come later down the line.



But... and this question is to satisfy my own curiosity as well

If the OP decides to go with the Intel build, and only wants to run a single GPU:

Would the x58 board still not be the better choice?

What I mean is, I understand one if its major features are X-Fire/SLI but even if thats someting you have no plans to do,
We are also talking Tripple Channel memory VS Dual Channel in say a P55.

X58 isnt really that much more than a P55

 

[Carl Lawrence]

By the listed stuff it should be a good computer.

 

[ZaLiTH]

If the OP decides to go with the Intel build, and only wants to run a single GPU:

Would the x58 board still not be the better choice?

What I mean is, I understand one if its major features are X-Fire/SLI but even if thats someting you have no plans to do,
We are also talking Tripple Channel memory VS Dual Channel in say a P55.

X58 isnt really that much more than a P55

That's a valid point there... Although I do know a fair amount about Intel, I've had more experience with AMD, so I actually forgot about that.

 

[Darician]

Or i should go for this

XFX Radeon HD5850 1GB
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
Fractal Design Define R3
Corsair HX 650W 80+
Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS Retail
Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz
Noctua NH-D14, 140mm
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
OR
Asus P6X58D-E
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz PC3-12800

Looks like a great build. Since you're going to be encoding, depending on your application(s) of choice, I would suggest going with a GTX 460 because of CUDA. I know some applications take advantage of the GPU and with CUDA, that could become really useful.

 

[bmb]

My first choice was GTX 460 but my brother suggesting me 5850 or 5870 and i heard about 460,470 very noisy and use lots of power(i dont know true or not).

I wants to buy one computer that can i use 2-3 years at least and can do most of the things(i mentioned )without problem.So from that two options above which one i should choose or i need to change any parts ?

Thanks

 

[Darician]

In terms of noise and power, the 470 is true but the 460 not so much. It's actually based off a less power hungry and design and therefore, is quieter.

 

[Wishmaster]

Or i should go for this

XFX Radeon HD5850 1GB
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
Fractal Design Define R3
Corsair HX 650W 80+
Samsung DVD±RW 22X DL LS Retail
Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz
Noctua NH-D14, 140mm
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
OR
Asus P6X58D-E
Corsair 6GB (3x2GB) 1600MHz PC3-12800

Looks like a great build. Since you're going to be encoding, depending on your application(s) of choice, I would suggest going with a GTX 460 because of CUDA. I know some applications take advantage of the GPU and with CUDA, that could become really useful.

ATI has GPU accelerated encoding as well.

Eitherway, IMHO the GPU accelerated encoding (For either Nvidia or ATI) simply doesnt stand up quality wise to a encoder such as, MeGUi x264 or Handbrake, for example. You have far more control over settings and quality, as well as formats,containers etc.

Are GPU accelerated encoders faster? YES
But theres a reason for that, and IMHO not worth using.

The higher quality settings you use, the better quality the final product. It will also take longer to encode.

I know there may be many that disagree, but just my take on it.

Either card should treat you well for gaming and most everything else however.
I honestly believe this really is preference for the most part.

 

[bmb]

So guys which one is worthy or good choice

AMD Phenom2 X6 1090T BE

or

Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz

Missing any parts from lists ?

 

[pparks1]

So guys which one is worthy or good choice

AMD Phenom2 X6 1090T BE

or

Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz

Missing any parts from lists ?

Well, the Intel Core i5-750 pretty much performs on par or better than the 1090TBE. Plus, the Intel Core i5-750 is $100 cheaper than the 1090T BE.

So, considering the i7-930 is a higher end processor, it too should out perform the 1090T and it's still a bit cheaper than the AMD.

Unless you are a diehard AMD fan, I don't see this as really being a choice. I think the decision is clear.

 

[Darician]

So guys which one is worthy or good choice

AMD Phenom2 X6 1090T BE

or

Intel Core i7 930, 2.80GHz

Missing any parts from lists ?

The i7 930. Comparing prices, I'd say the i7 930 is a better value for what it is because it will outperform the hexacore AMD.

 

[johnwillyums]

Agreed. I'd go for the Intel 930 build. I think Gigabyte mobos are the muts nuts. Also a big fan of Noctua products and, indeed, all your other components.
I would, however, choose the Nvidia 460 (especially the Palit Sonic Platinum version). That choice is based on the excellent reviews this card has received and my own previous experience with Nvidia cards.
I've never owned an ATI card so it is just a personal preference.
Good luck with the build whatever you decide

 

[Wishmaster]

In the x264 encoding benchmarks the i7-930 was just 90 points short of the x6 Phenoms score for the same encode.
(which really doesnt amount to much of a difference)

But it's worth pointing out:
that the i7 930 was also at its stock 2.8 ghz
the AMD x6 was overclocked to 3.8ghz
To be that close at 1000mhz difference in speed is just ... well yea

If of course those benchmarks are accurate.

 

[johnwillyums]

That's an excellent result Wishmaster. I run an i7 920 at 4Ghz with a Noctua HSF and it runs at that speed comfortably. My temps range around the mid 40s to mid 50s under load and the whole box is very quiet considering there are 11 fans in it.
I don't know whether the OP will be into overclocking but he really doesn't need to with results like that