Occasional Kernel 41 crashes but always in memory disgnostic

gsullymorgan

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I've been running Win 7 Ultimate Retail happily for over a year on this PC.

I started getting occasional crashes a few weeks ago, no BSOD just a complete and sudden restart. It started getting more and more frequent until it always crashed during startup.

BUT, it worked fine in safe mode - no crashes even after running for days.

I tried removing various drivers etc. to no avail so I decided to give up and do a clean install.

While doing this I decided I might as well upgrade the 256gb HD to a 1Tb drive which I did.

All went well but checking the system out after the install I found that it crashed during Windows Memory Diagnostic. It's fine with Memtest86.

I dug around the web and found references to a graphic error (it's on the mobo) so I put in a HD5450 (I now have a DVI connection to the monitor) and changed the BIOS etc.

Still the crash in Memdiag, and one apparently random crash too. More digging and I see that the original power supply at 305W is a bit weak so I've put in a GX 550W supply.

Still the crash in Memdiag and another in the middle of the night while it was just switched on with no programs running.

The event viewer
shows

-System
-Provider[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power[ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}
EventID41Version2Level1Task63Opcode0Keywords0x8000000000000002-TimeCreated[ SystemTime] 2011-09-28T00:09:06.869223500Z
EventRecordID9328Correlation-Execution[ ProcessID] 4[ ThreadID] 8
ChannelSystemComputerGM_DELL_APR06-Security[ UserID] S-1-5-18

-EventData
BugcheckCode0BugcheckParameter10x0BugcheckParameter20x0BugcheckParameter30x0BugcheckParameter40x0SleepInProgressfalsePowerButtonTimestamp0

It's a Dell Dimension 5150 2.8GHz with 3Gb memory.

I'll be grateful for any ideas. TIA.
 

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Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
Hi gsullymorgan welcome to SF :)


You dont have any minidump in your folders.

To enable minidump please read this,

Copy\paste this >---> sysdm.cpl in the start search,then click in the appeared sysdm.cpl
Click on the Advanced tab.
Click on the Startup and Recovery Settings button.
Ensure that Automatically restart is unchecked.
Under the Write Debugging Information header select Small memory dump 256 kB in the dropdown box.
Ensure that the Small Dump Directory is listed as %systemroot%\Minidump
Click OK twice to exit the dialogs, then reboot for the changes to take effect.
Now we must wait for a new crash\bsod to occur.
After the new crash\bsod run again the http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/96879-blue-screen-death-bsod-posting-instructions.html
And upload again here the new folders.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1Intel Core 2 Quad Q66002X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNELXFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built by me.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
Memory
2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL
Graphics Card(s)
XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
Screen Resolution
1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
Hard Drives
C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2
PSU
THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W
Case
A-Case Twin Engine BB
Cooling
3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan
Keyboard
Wireless Logitech LX710
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
Internet Speed
ADSL 12000 plus
Other Info
Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?

D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2
Thanks, I've done that. I was only offered a 128kb dump so I chose that.

I generated a crash by running by running memory diagnostic again.

Looking at the files I don't have any kernel dump files, just the following.


28/09/2011 11:52:12.04
28/09/2011 11:52:12.04


LISTING OF MINI KERNEL DUMP FILES
LISTING OF MINI KERNEL DUMP FILES





_______________________________________________________

28/09/2011 11:52:12.10
28/09/2011 11:52:12.10


FULL KERNEL DUMP FILE
FULL KERNEL DUMP FILE


Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 068C-EDC9
Directory of C:\Windows


I noticed when running the exe that the first message is a 'path not found'.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1Intel Core 2 Quad Q66002X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNELXFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built by me.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
Memory
2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL
Graphics Card(s)
XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
Screen Resolution
1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
Hard Drives
C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2
PSU
THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W
Case
A-Case Twin Engine BB
Cooling
3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan
Keyboard
Wireless Logitech LX710
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
Internet Speed
ADSL 12000 plus
Other Info
Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?

D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2
I seem to have had an occasional (1 or 2) crash in the upper memory part of test 8 while other runs are OK.
 

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WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
It seems that you have faulty hardware (ram).

In your specs i can see 3gb.

How many sticks of ram you have?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1Intel Core 2 Quad Q66002X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNELXFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built by me.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
Memory
2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL
Graphics Card(s)
XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
Screen Resolution
1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
Hard Drives
C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2
PSU
THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W
Case
A-Case Twin Engine BB
Cooling
3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan
Keyboard
Wireless Logitech LX710
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
Internet Speed
ADSL 12000 plus
Other Info
Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?

D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2
I have 3gb made up of 2 x 1gb and 2 x 512gb (the original memory).

I ran Memtest86+ on each of the 1gb in slot 1 over the weekend. 36 hours and 24 hours. No errors.

I put both in again, slot 1 and slot 2 and ran the test for 2 passes this morning. No errors.

I then tried Windows Memory Diagnostic again twice. Both times it crashed at 15%.

I noticed that after the memdiag crashes, although the keyboard was working it seemed as if the mouse had to reinstall again (USB port?) and didn't respond for over 10 minutes.
 

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WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
I've now run Memtest86+ for 15 hours against the two 1Gb sticks with no errors but it still crashes at 15% in Windows Memory Diagnostic.

Any ideas please?
 

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WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
Interestingly if I run Windows Memory Diagnostic against either 1Gb in Slot A it completes OK.

Is this possibly a Slot B problem?
 

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WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
Still plugging away at this.

I put another 2 x 1Gb in slots 3 and 4 and now memtest86+ crashes out soon after starting and there are random crashes while the machine is running.

Is this a memory, slot or CPU problem?
 

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WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
Take one "good" ram stick and try it in all the slots.

Then do the same with other ram stick.

Do this with all the ram sticks.

Just one at the time.
---------------------
Tip:

""
I have 3gb made up of 2 x 1gb and 2 x 512gb (the original memory).""


This ram combination is not the best for your system,is better to have 4x1gb.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1Intel Core 2 Quad Q66002X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNELXFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built by me.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
Memory
2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL
Graphics Card(s)
XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
Screen Resolution
1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
Hard Drives
C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2
PSU
THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W
Case
A-Case Twin Engine BB
Cooling
3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan
Keyboard
Wireless Logitech LX710
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
Internet Speed
ADSL 12000 plus
Other Info
Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?

D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2
Thanks. The manual says, if I read it correctly, that I must have a stick in slot 1; is that the case?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

WIn 7 Ultimate x323gbRadeon HD5450
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension 5150
OS
WIn 7 Ultimate x32
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD5450
Monitor(s) Displays
Medion 2150
Hard Drives
1Tb
PSU
GX550W
Take one ram stick and plug-test it in slot 1
Then the same ram stick plug\test it in slot 2
Then the same ram stick plug\test it in slot 3
Then the same ram stick plu\test it in slot 4
---------------

Then take any other ram stick and do the same thing.


Do this with all your ram sticks.



This way you will test all the ram sticks and all the ram slots in motherboard.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1Intel Core 2 Quad Q66002X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNELXFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built by me.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4
Memory
2X2GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHZ DUAL CHANNEL
Graphics Card(s)
XFX RADEON HD 6850 1GB GDDR5
Sound Card
2/4/5.1/7.1-channel Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung LE40A656F1 1080p 100Hz LCD HD TV 50,000:1
Screen Resolution
1366x768 in Desktop,1920x1080p in gaming and video
Hard Drives
C:\WD VelociRaptor 150 GB,10,000 RPM
E:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2 F:\WESTERN DIGITAL WD15EADS 1.5TB CAVIAR GREEN SATA2
PSU
THERMALTAKE W0229 TOUGHPOWER XT 750W
Case
A-Case Twin Engine BB
Cooling
3 x thermaltake smart case fan II + 1 arctic cooling fan
Keyboard
Wireless Logitech LX710
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
Internet Speed
ADSL 12000 plus
Other Info
Mouse Logitech G700,with 13 buttons who needs keyboard in RPG?

D:\Sony high speed sata Dvd Rewriter
Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2
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