Odd problem after taking full ownership of C:

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First the basics... Asus G71G laptop; dual core T9400 CPU; Nvidia 9800m; 6gb ram; Win7 Pro x64. Drivers and everything up to date (I think).

What happens is that immediately following taking full ownership of C:, the "safely remove hardware" icon stops working. I can hover the mouse over the icon and the balloon text appears, but clicking or right-clicking on icon does nothing. I've tried different versions of Win 7, but this happens each time and only after taking ownership of C:. Even more odd is that this issue doesn't happen on my desktop, only on my laptop.

My first thought was a driver issue, but that really doesn't make sense as no hardware is being installed or removed at the time the issue happens. And before anyone responds with "why do you need to take ownership in the first place", I'll just say that I'm a major geek and always tinker with things. Its how I learn.... Its a minor problem, but one that (in my opinion) shouldn't happen.

Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Sorry if this is in the wrong section.... I'm new here.
 

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Win 7 Pro x64Core 2 Duo T94006.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15Nvidia 9800m GTX
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus G71G
OS
Win 7 Pro x64
CPU
Core 2 Duo T9400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. G71G
Memory
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9800m GTX
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HD display
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Dual 250GB ST9250421AS ATA Device
Why is the safely remove hardware icon in the tray in the first place if youre not installing any new hardware?
 

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Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
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Whatever came with the system
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4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
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NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
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Intergrated
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samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
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whatever came with the system
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whatever came with the system
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whatever came with the system
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Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
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100mbps
Why is the safely remove hardware icon in the tray in the first place if youre not installing any new hardware?


I always install apps and other programs after a clean install from a portable HDD. I also keep work related stuff on the same drive that I access constantly. The icon is there pretty much most of the time, or hidden in the other box. At the moment I have another portable HDD connected that contains movies...

The issue occurs whether the icon is in the system tray or in the hidden box.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64Core 2 Duo T94006.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15Nvidia 9800m GTX
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus G71G
OS
Win 7 Pro x64
CPU
Core 2 Duo T9400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. G71G
Memory
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9800m GTX
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HD display
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Dual 250GB ST9250421AS ATA Device
Im sorry, i have no idea why this is happening, after all im only "skilled" :D:D
The other ppl here will surely help you.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bitIntel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz4 gb ddr2 667 MhzNVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
I would suspect that taking ownership of the entire hard drive has somehow taken away from the stuff that "System" owned - and has somehow affected this (and this is a whole lotta speculation on my part).

There are ways to restore the permissions (both registry and file) - I've written about some of them here: Reset Registry Permissions (and the links there will help you find some more ways to remedy this issue).
 

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I would suspect that taking ownership of the entire hard drive has somehow taken away from the stuff that "System" owned - and has somehow affected this (and this is a whole lotta speculation on my part).

I understand what you are saying. However, for this to be accurate wouldn't the issue have to be duplicated on my desktop? I'm only seeing this on my laptop. This is what initially made me think there was a driver issue.

I think what I may end up doing is go one folder at a time in an attempt to try and narrow down exactly when the issue starts. It will be time consuming, but I'm on vacation all week and don't have much to do between now and Thursday.

Thanks for the assistance.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64Core 2 Duo T94006.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15Nvidia 9800m GTX
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus G71G
OS
Win 7 Pro x64
CPU
Core 2 Duo T9400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. G71G
Memory
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9800m GTX
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HD display
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Dual 250GB ST9250421AS ATA Device
It's not advised to take ownership for the entire C: drive, iv'e done it before, and that PC never booted again, couldn't load anything due to the files being denied for opening by the system because of my ownership. Fresh install was my solution.
 

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Stock Intel CPU Fan
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HP SK-2960 Multimedia Keyboard
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Logitech M350 Wireless Gaming Mouse
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1.5MB
It's not advised to take ownership for the entire C: drive, iv'e done it before, and that PC never booted again, couldn't load anything due to the files being denied for opening by the system because of my ownership. Fresh install was my solution.

I haven't seen the PC behave in the manner you descried simply by taking full ownership of c:.... very strange.

I do think I have discovered a workaround for those who want to take full ownership. In my tinkering yesterday I found that if I assigned full ownership to the administrators group, rather than to my user name like I had been doing, the problem does not occur. I have no idea why this makes a difference but it does. It still doesn't identify why the other issue was occurring, but at least there is now an alternative.

Thanks again to those who provided some assistance.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64Core 2 Duo T94006.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15Nvidia 9800m GTX
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus G71G
OS
Win 7 Pro x64
CPU
Core 2 Duo T9400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. G71G
Memory
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9800m GTX
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HD display
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Dual 250GB ST9250421AS ATA Device
Tbh, i really don't see the point in taking complete ownership of the entire drive, only the system files that you must take ownership to modify/rename, like explorer.exe and ieframe.dll, and the Theme files that need to be patched to allow non standard themes.

But all of that aside, it's not my duty to question your intentions.

And glad to of help in some way.
 

My Computer My Computer

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W7 RTM Ultimate x64Intel Q8400 @ 2.66GHZ4GB DDR2-800Gainward GTS 450 GLH 1GB Edition
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
W7 RTM Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q8400 @ 2.66GHZ
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EG45M-UD2H
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
Gainward GTS 450 GLH 1GB Edition
Sound Card
Integrated 8 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC 23.6 Inch Widescreen LCD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Seagate 500GB Internal
Western Digital 1TB Internal

Hitachi 1TB External
PSU
Apevia Java Power 500W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 Black
Cooling
Stock Intel CPU Fan
Keyboard
HP SK-2960 Multimedia Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech M350 Wireless Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
1.5MB
But all of that aside, it's not my duty to question your intentions.

I do understand that there really isn't a true need to take full ownership, and I understand why Microsoft decided to put the locks on tight. However, my only complaint is that if I spent the money on this OS, and I have administrator rights, who are they (Microsoft) to tell me what I can and can not access on ** MY ** computer? I miss this from XP, and its one of the reasons I never fully implemented Vista. Win 7 seems to be better, so I decided to take the plunge. I don't really have a need to stick with XP anymore.

I'm not a hacker or a virus writer. There aren't any "intentions" that I have, good, bad or otherwise. I'm just a person who knows a little more about computers than the average Joe, and I am just trying to learn a little about this OS. I like knowing how to get around some of the little obstacles that Microsoft put in place.

Thanks again.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64Core 2 Duo T94006.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15Nvidia 9800m GTX
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus G71G
OS
Win 7 Pro x64
CPU
Core 2 Duo T9400
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. G71G
Memory
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz 5-5-5-15
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9800m GTX
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HD display
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Dual 250GB ST9250421AS ATA Device
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