PCI Express Esata Bracket or Direct Bracket?

[Anesthetic]

Can someone assist me in finding out which option is best?

Should I use this Amazon.com: Monoprice 107637 1 Port Internal SATA to eSATA Bracket (107637): Computers & Accessories

or something like this: PCI Express SATA III Card - PCIe SATA 6Gbps | StarTech.com

Will the latter perform as fast as the former? (Or will the former even work given the lengths of the cables I have to use?)

Also, I'm getting really confused when it comes to the maximum length of the sata to esata. The esata bracket comes with a 20 inch cable... and the esata cable that comes with my external drive is about 20 inches. That makes an even 40 inches. I know the maximum sata length is 40 inches... and I don't want this 40 inch chain causing corruption.....

What should I do?

***I also want to make sure using the pci express port isn't going to cause any issues with the graphics card... and I really want to make sure I'm using the fastest method possible

 

[Anesthetic]

bump. Right now, I'm averaging 110mb-150mb a second with this bad boy Amazon.com: Mediasonic ProBox HF2-SU3S2 4 Bay 3.5" Hard Drive Enclosure - USB 3.0 & eSATA, Support SATA 3 6.0Gbps hard drive transfer rate: Electronics (WD Caviar Black).
Through using a usb 3.1 port on my mobo.

Would sata be that much better?

 

[Anesthetic]

Bump -- Anyone?

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

We already gave you the answers in your other thread.

 

[Anesthetic]

We already gave you the answers in your other thread.

Are you sure?

I'm pretty sure I didn't ask this same question. I looked through all of my threads.

There must be something you're seeing that I'm not because "Is there a such thing as official Sata 3 PCI Brackets" doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm asking now, specifically.

Seriously. Am I not seeing something?

 

[Layback Bear]

Take a look here.

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware...official-sata-3-pci-brackets.html#post3132415

 

[Anesthetic]

Take a look here.

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware...official-sata-3-pci-brackets.html#post3132415

Hmm. Still not seeing an answer. This time, I'm asking about length... and pci speed vs plugging in directly in the sata slots. Not sure why people are giving me such a hard time about this. If I thought my question was addressed, I wouldn't be opening another thread. Just trying to get an innocent answer lol...

 

[Layback Bear]

I will try to explain.

One computer, one problem, one thread.

Your threads are basically the same.
With a little change but the same.

What this causes is confusion for members trying to help.
The lift hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

 

[ThrashZone]

Also take notice,
http://www.sevenforums.com/misc.php?do=showrules

2) No useless posts, e.g., thread bumping, useless one liners, junk posting to increase post count, and identical multi-postings in different forums.

 

[Anesthetic]

I will try to explain.

One computer, one problem, one thread.

Your threads are basically the same.
With a little change but the same.

What this causes is confusion for members trying to help.
The lift hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

ohhhh. so you're saying since they're so similar, I should ask this exact question on the last thread I opened since I haven't received my answer?

 

[ThrashZone]

If you bother to notice,
A lot of people on old machine may not have usb3 or 3.1 ports as you

The manufacture of the device you use didn't want to make a device exclusively for usb3
So enter why it also has esata connection options

The device is designed for usb3 usage
Your also fortunate enough to have usb3.1 as well = use it if the device likes it
Otherwise ask the manufacture of the device for the best connection

I'll bet usb 3.1 would be best

 

[Anesthetic]

If you bother to notice,
A lot of people on old machine may not have usb3 or 3.1 ports as you

The manufacture of the device you use didn't want to make a device exclusively for usb3
So enter why it also has esata connection options

The device is designed for usb3 usage
Your also fortunate enough to have usb3.1 as well = use it if the device likes it
Otherwise ask the manufacture of the device for the best connection

I'll bet usb 3.1 would be best

Thank you! I wish the external device was 3.1. That would have been neat. But it seems that the 3.1 ports do make a difference.

I appreciate you, Mr. Thrash.

 

[ThrashZone]

It's tough to tell what exact type of cable the device comes with or if there's a better one available
It would seem a 3.0 capable device would come with a gold tipped cable ?

The only thing I've noticed about esata ports and cables is they fit rather well and are a little more securely fastened opposed to any usb connection.

The esata cards I would imagine would depend on the board and if it has rapid storage sata ports on it and messing with raid.... which is way to complicated

 

[ThrashZone]

Okay here ya go
Amazon.com: Cable Matters Gold-Plated SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Y-Cable 20 Inches: Computers & Accessories

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Considering HDDs haven't saturated SATA II speeds yet, all this worrying about whether USB 3.0, USB 3.1, e-SATA II, or e-SATA III is faster is pointless. The only thing is that matters is any of those will be faster than USB 2.0 and faster than a HDD will need.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yep I'll buy that
7200rpm
5200rpm worst of all
I didn't notice the "Y" splitter on that cable I posted but at least it shows there is gold tipped usb3 cables

 

[Anesthetic]

Okay here ya go
Amazon.com: Cable Matters Gold-Plated SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Y-Cable 20 Inches: Computers & Accessories

Actually, my USB 3.0 cables just comes in silver. Not gold. I don't really think either one would make a difference though.

Thank you!

 

[ThrashZone]

Probably not but at least you'll have all the proper equipment so if you ever do switch to sdd's you'll be setup
One of your concerns were the cabling and how long....

 

[Anesthetic]

Probably not but at least you'll have all the proper equipment so if you ever do switch to sdd's you'll be setup
One of your concerns were the cabling and how long....

Oh yea! The length as far as esata external to the actual pass-through, then from the pass-through to the mobo. Is that a total of 39 inches? They literally only sell those cables at 20 inches a piece. So, I'd be at like..... the maximum or just over.

And you said ssd? So, you're telling me if I connect an ssd instead of these hdds via usb 3.0, I'll get maximum throughput? That's probably what USB 3.0 is really designed for. It's just funny that they make these usb 3.0 drives with regular HDDs.... it's almost like a marketing gimmick.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Probably not but at least you'll have all the proper equipment so if you ever do switch to sdd's you'll be setup
One of your concerns were the cabling and how long....

Oh yea! The length as far as esata external to the actual pass-through, then from the pass-through to the mobo. Is that a total of 39 inches? They literally only sell those cables at 20 inches a piece. So, I'd be at like..... the maximum or just over.

And you said ssd? So, you're telling me if I connect an ssd instead of these hdds via usb 3.0, I'll get maximum throughput? That's probably what USB 3.0 is really designed for. It's just funny that they make these usb 3.0 drives with regular HDDs.... it's almost like a marketing gimmick.

They make the external HDDs with USB 3.0 connectivity because USB 3.0 is supposed to have more power available. The older USB 2.0 external HDDs often had to have a second USB connector added to the cable to get additional power from a second USB port. However, not all computers with USB 3.0 ports provide the maximum power called for in the USB 3.0 specs. My external HDDs are 7200 rpm 2.5" WD Blacks in USB 3.0 Arctic enclosures. I had to get USB 3.0 cables that also had that second power only connector to get them to work reliably on the USB 3.0 ports on my notebook (I also had the darnedest time finding them).

An SSD will definitely be faster on a USB 3.0 connection than a HDD. However, if you only move a small amount of data at a time, you may not notice the difference.