Planning on buying a new rig.

[hawkin90]

Dude. I would never spend 10K on a computer, that is mad
As I said. I have the money and more if needed.
I'm buying it for myself, not for my friends. I already have a better computer than my friends.
And this is not a monster computer or anything, I'm not spending 8K on it as it takes to upgrade everything to the max.

And my friends don't even have 50% of the power..

 

[pparks1]

Well, once you get it...be sure to let us all know how it's working out for you. Sounds like a really nice setup.

 

[chev65]

You won't need the water cooling for a 20 percent overclock. I'm running a 35% overclock on air and have no problems with cooling, even at higher clocks. Water cooling makes a bigger difference on the GPU's but it's still not worth messing with in my opinion. It greatly complicates things for very marginal gains.

 

[Fumz]

Dude. I would never spend 10K on a computer, that is mad
As I said. I have the money and more if needed.
I'm buying it for myself, not for my friends. I already have a better computer than my friends.
And this is not a monster computer or anything, I'm not spending 8K on it as it takes to upgrade everything to the max.

And my friends don't even have 50% of the power..

I'm pretty sure the guys just want to make sure that you don't fall into the trap of believing that how good a gamer you are is a function of the machine you're running: it's not.

 

[hawkin90]

pparks1: I will, thanks for being active here

chev65: The cooling isn't possible to remove from my config on the site (i know, it's stupid) It's a pretty cheap one though, don't think it will be a problem. I mean, is it a problem for my system?

And yeah, one question: What do you think of the caviar green serie? I've seen many complaints about it being slow, but I guess that's what makes it cheaper than the black serie.

 

[pparks1]

There really isn't that much difference in terms of price between a green and a black series drive. The green series is marketed towards lower power consumption...but we are only talking about a few watts (like 5 or less usually). At NewEgg, the 1GB Caviar Black is $89 with a 5 year warranty and the Green 1TB is $69 with a 3 year warranty. For $20, I'll take more performance and a longer warranty.

 

[hawkin90]

Dude. I would never spend 10K on a computer, that is mad
As I said. I have the money and more if needed.
I'm buying it for myself, not for my friends. I already have a better computer than my friends.
And this is not a monster computer or anything, I'm not spending 8K on it as it takes to upgrade everything to the max.

And my friends don't even have 50% of the power..

I'm pretty sure the guys just want to make sure that you don't fall into the trap of believing that how good a gamer you are is a function of the machine you're running: it's not.

Dude i never said that. And I'm not into being a "good" gamer.
I play almost only single player games like rpg's and campaigns on fps games.
I rarely play online, and when I do it's on trackmania united forever.
I want this system to enjoy my games & programs to the max, not to impress anyone.

 

[pparks1]

@hawkin90: I don't really think you have to justify this purchase to any of us. Just understand where we are coming from....we are trying to make sure that you realize that you won't be in for a huge performance increase with this new purchase as your current rig is more than decent. We aren't trying to give you a hard time to be jerks...but just trying to ensure that you understand that your gains are going to be small for the investment.

I mean, I'm somewhat into gaming and my box is only 1 year old. Technically I would have to upgrade to even get to where you are today...but I know that for what I do with the computer....the cost of upgrading (while fun to piece together a new machine and do a new wiring job), just won't blow me away as my current rig is a great performing box. I don't see me upgrading anything for at least 1 more year maybe 2.

 

[hawkin90]

Well they are not small for me as I can now run more games on max settings and the highest resolution. The graphic change is actually pretty big from the system I have now.

Yes, sometimes it's good to be critical

I'm also planning on getting a monitor with a higher resolution (2560x1600) sometime later this year, and for that this build is better than the one I have now. And the case is much more a self-build than my dell, So I will probably make most of the upgrades myself, when I want new hardware.

EDIT: My box is also 1 year old.

 

[pparks1]

Well they are not small for me as I can now run more games on max settings and the highest resolution. The graphic change is actually pretty big from the system I have now.

Hopefully. But I think that you will find that it won't be as dramatic as you think. I think that's what the guys with experience are trying to say. I think the video card will really be your upgrade.

I spent $1,192 on my box in June of 2009. This included $189 for a Vista 64-bit Ultimate OEM copy with a free upgrade to Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate. Since then, I added a $289 SSD...so my build is just under $1,500 counting the OS...or $1290 for just the hardware.

 

[hawkin90]

I know the graphic card is the biggest upgrade. But you also built it yourself, which saves you money.

 

[profdlp]

From what hawkin90 is saying, computer stuff typically costs a lot more in his country. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I was used to seeing systems over here costing an arm and a leg and then found places to buy parts on the cheap then I might be tempted to overbuild, too.

(I'm good at rationalizing...)

 

[hawkin90]

Yeah. It is much more expensive here. On that cyberpowerpc site I saved almost 1000$ on the same system, even a little better one. I mean I would love it to be that kind of prices in Norway too. But all the english and american stores with those kind of prices only ship inland, and suddenly you pay almost 1000$ only for the shipping.

Btw: I have an unused licenced copy of windows 7 ultimate, is it okey to just order a "whitebox" then? I mean, no reason to spend 200$ more when I can just install it myself.
Unless there is a problem with installing seven on a whitebox?...

 

[pparks1]

As long as the copy of Windows 7 Ultimate that you have is a retail copy (not OEM), there is no problem with installing it on your new box. The key is that it's unused. If you have an unused OEM...you could use that. But if it were activated or used on another machine, technically you cannot use it on a new machine.

I don't know about the rest of you, but if I was used to seeing systems over here costing an arm and a leg and then found places to buy parts on the cheap then I might be tempted to overbuild, too.

(I'm good at rationalizing...)

Well in his case, he "might" be "overbuilding" a new machine to upgrade a box that is only 1 year old. So, if he overbuilds on a yearly basis...it's going to not be wise in the long run. Not to mention, if he saves $1,000 on parts but pays $800 for shipping...his savings really only amounts to $200.

 

[hawkin90]

Yes it is a fresh disc. Retail. Never ever been booted before Good that saves me some cash.

Yes. I admit I have not been very smart. I have bought a new computer every year the three last years. But from now on I will absolutely just buy parts when I upgrade the hardware. I am also going to learn much more about building computers.

I'm starting on a computer/IT school this fall. It's one year in school and two years as a trainee for a company before I am qualified for the full job. So in a couple of years I will be much more educated with the system

 

[profdlp]

... I have bought a new computer every year the three last years. But from now on I will absolutely just buy parts when I upgrade the hardware...

The trick is to buy a platform with long term upgrade potential. By that, I mean get a good case, PSU, and motherboard and then just upgrade your CPU/Video/RAM/HD when something significantly better is affordable.

 

[pparks1]

The trick is to buy a platform with long term upgrade potential. By that, I mean get a good case, PSU, and motherboard and then just upgrade your CPU/Video/RAM/HD when something significantly better is affordable.

Harder said that done. By time a new CPU really equates to a good upgrade, it's usually a different socket....which often means a new motherboard. Same thing for RAM...people who have DDR2 mobo's now find the market full of DDR3 RAM. For me, I rarely purchase with the intention of upgrading as things change so rapidly. But that's just my opinion.

 

[smarteyeball]

Haha. Yeah I have to pwn him, and I'm gonna make fun of his laggy assassins creed, I mean very laggy

I want this system to enjoy my games & programs to the max, not to impress anyone.

Really ?

 

[hawkin90]

Dude have some humour
He's my best friend, and I'm just joking. His computer isn't that bad.

 

[profdlp]

The trick is to buy a platform with long term upgrade potential. By that, I mean get a good case, PSU, and motherboard and then just upgrade your CPU/Video/RAM/HD when something significantly better is affordable.

Harder said that done. By time a new CPU really equates to a good upgrade, it's usually a different socket...

Tell me about it.

The system I'm using now is just under a year old and replaced what was at the time cutting-edge. Unfortunately for me that was a Socket 939 computer with AGP and regular DDR RAM. Socket 939 was only available for about two weeks (a slight exaggeration, but not too far off the mark). By the time I was ready to upgrade the world had moved on to a different socket, used PCIe, and required DDR2.

My current build is a core i7 1366 with a 920 CPU. By the time it feels old I'm hoping that the unlocked six-core CPUs will be heading for eBay as everyone moves to core i8. (Or core i9 or core i10 or core iwhatever.)