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yaco78

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Hi everybody, I'm downloading the 64 bit Windows 7 RC right now, but I'm a bit nervous to install just yet, and want to clear a couple things up first.

First, my machine is a Toshiba Satellite A305 with Intel Core 2 Duo T750 2.0ghz with 4gb of ram. It's pretty new (Sept 2008), and runs 64 bit Vista very nicely. The upgrade adviser said everything would be fine, except there were 2 drivers that it said Windows Update would have to be run after the installation in order to fix compatibility. These are Ricoh SD/MMC Host Controller and Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller. I really don't even know what these things mean, but will I have an issue here? And if something does go wrong, will I be able to restore my computer to how it currently is? I'm using the Backup and Restore Center to back my files onto an external hard drive right now. I also saved a restore point. However, I do not know how to reformat or partition or anything like that, so if I did install Windows 7 and it didn't work, what would happen to me? My biggest fear is messing my machine up and not knowing how to recover it without bringing it in. I read on other topics here that I should dual install Windows 7 with Vista. How does one specifically go about doing that? And how can I partition my hard drive or whatever so that it can be dual installed? And how do you select which OS you want it to run on startup? Lastly, my CD drive does not seem to read CD's correctly, so the recovery disc will be pretty useless, but can I still use the Backup Center if something goes wrong? And obviously I won't be able to install Windows 7 from a DVD since the reader doesn't work, so does the thumb nail drive trick work? Although I'd have to go get a new thumb drive big enough to hold this (My current holds 1gb) so if there's an alternate way to dual install I'd like to hear it, such as mounting the image or something. Otherwise, I would of course be willing to run out and get a flash drive to burn it from. I'm very excited to see Windows 7 but I really don't want to put my computer at risk, so hopefully with the support of this forum I will be able to make the change!

Thanks for any opinions,
Eric
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
Hi everybody, I'm downloading the 64 bit Windows 7 RC right now, but I'm a bit nervous to install just yet, and want to clear a couple things up first.

First, my machine is a Toshiba Satellite A305 with Intel Core 2 Duo T750 2.0ghz with 4gb of ram. It's pretty new (Sept 2008), and runs 64 bit Vista very nicely. The upgrade adviser said everything would be fine, except there were 2 drivers that it said Windows Update would have to be run after the installation in order to fix compatibility. These are Ricoh SD/MMC Host Controller and Ricoh xD-Picture Card Controller. I really don't even know what these things mean, but will I have an issue here? And if something does go wrong, will I be able to restore my computer to how it currently is? I'm using the Backup and Restore Center to back my files onto an external hard drive right now. I also saved a restore point. However, I do not know how to reformat or partition or anything like that, so if I did install Windows 7 and it didn't work, what would happen to me? My biggest fear is messing my machine up and not knowing how to recover it without bringing it in. I read on other topics here that I should dual install Windows 7 with Vista. How does one specifically go about doing that? And how can I partition my hard drive or whatever so that it can be dual installed? And how do you select which OS you want it to run on startup? Lastly, my CD drive does not seem to read CD's correctly, so the recovery disc will be pretty useless, but can I still use the Backup Center if something goes wrong? And obviously I won't be able to install Windows 7 from a DVD since the reader doesn't work, so does the thumb nail drive trick work? Although I'd have to go get a new thumb drive big enough to hold this (My current holds 1gb) so if there's an alternate way to dual install I'd like to hear it, such as mounting the image or something. Otherwise, I would of course be willing to run out and get a flash drive to burn it from. I'm very excited to see Windows 7 but I really don't want to put my computer at risk, so hopefully with the support of this forum I will be able to make the change!

Thanks for any opinions,
Eric

The best for you is to wait a little some helps!!:)

For sure i can tell you NOT to upgrade your Vista system but to make a partition only for W7 (depend how much Gb you can allow) and have at least 30gb or more for the new install.

Easeus Partition Master 3,5 Home edition 'freeware" does the job to partitioned the drive.

By now wait some advices from members to get news about booting from a flash drive (i have never done it), or, fix your CD/dvd drive....!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU
Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory
G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution
16/9
Hard Drives
Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
PSU
In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case
Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling
Custom Water Cooling Loop
Keyboard
Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse
Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE 11.0.xxx Rtm
Other Info
"Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
Thank you, I have 112gb free, and I'm going to download that software right now and play around with it. How much space is recommended for the partition?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
Thank you, I have 112gb free, and I'm going to download that software right now and play around with it. How much space is recommended for the partition?

I'm suggesting you, if you're not handling to much files on Vista to allow 45Gb to 50Gb max for an easy experience of W7. I'm on 100Gb drive dualboot with XP home SP3. I have allow 30Gb to W7 and it does works on a stunning way!

It is late night for me here and early morning for you...try to familiar with Easeus and i'll come to you (should be night for you). Others members should comes either to help!
See you...!


OUPS!!

i don't even know which part are you from. I told this 'cause was on another post to help for the same thing. But anyway you have understand me..
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU
Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory
G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card(s)
Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution
16/9
Hard Drives
Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
PSU
In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case
Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling
Custom Water Cooling Loop
Keyboard
Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse
Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE 11.0.xxx Rtm
Other Info
"Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
Hello yaco78,

Welcome to Seven Forums.

Here is info on how to shrink a partition to make room for dual boot. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html

I recommend at least 40GB but it depends on how many programs and such you want to install and whether your personal files are on another drive/partition.

You can install by downloading winrar and extracting the iso. Once done simply click on setup.exe and select custom install. Select the new partition you just created and let it install. I've done this several times with 7. Winrar here: WinRAR download and support. WinRAR is a powerful Windows tool to compress and decompress zip, rar and many other formats: Download now You will do all of this in Vista.

More info here on dual boot. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5166-dual-boot-installation-windows-7-vista.html

If you have anymore questions, you know where to find us.

Enjoy.

Gary

Edit: This will make W7 the default boot option. If you want Vista to be default, let us know as it is very easy to change.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
If all you have to do is double click on the setup.exe, why does everyone say that it first needs to be burned onto a physical disc and then be installed? Well this is good news nonetheless.

You also said
I recommend at least 40GB but it depends on how many programs and such you want to install and whether your personal files are on another drive/partition.

What exactly do you mean by this? I currently have everything I need on my C drive. Is all of this data not going to be accessible when I'm running in Windows 7? I understand that 16gb are required for the installation, but this extra space is for personal files and programs? Meaning I'm going to have to copy everything over? Sorry I really don't know much about operating systems, which is kind of sad for having taken college level computer science courses. Is everything I do on Windows 7 going to stay strictly on my Windows 7? Or will it still be accessible if I boot up on Vista.
Thanks! :D
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
Not sure about that, im dualbooting w7 and ubuntu, and from what i can say, is that w7 wont allow access to ubuntu drive.what im getting at is that w7 might not allow you to access files on a drive from another OS., if someone knows , please point that out.
 

My Computer

OS
W7 7127 X64
Based on your post then, Assassin, after I dual install the two operating systems, in terms of the hard drive, it will be like I'm running two separate computers? If I need to start fresh in Windows 7, how can I get previously installed programs from my Vista over to my Windows 7, as i want Windows 7 to be my primary OS. And if I did want to replicate my original C drive over to Windows 7, does that mean I should partition my hard drive in half to make two equals?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
You will be able to access all of your data on the Vista partition. If it doesn't show up in 7's windows explorer, you may have to go into disk management and give the drive a letter. Info here:Drive Letter - Add, Change, or Remove - Vista Forums for vista, but it's the same in 7.

Gary
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
^^^ theres your answer buddy, about the programs, you'll have to reinstall all the programs onto your windows 7 boot, unless the program from vista doesnt need registry items to run, otherwise, your clear, someone confirm this please.
 

My Computer

OS
W7 7127 X64
Thanks Gary, so then do I only need to partition about 20gb then for the installation? Since I will continue using my original C drive for installing new programs and downloading new files, so I'd like to leave as much room on there as I could. Anyways, it looks like this installation may actually happen (aiming for tomorrow), the download is 85% complete! I'm still hoping someone can address the "what to do if the installation goes bad" aspect of my original post. Although by the sounds of it, since I'm not replacing Vista, I can just boot up in Vista if Windows 7 is crashing or does not install correctly? And I don't have to worry about my files getting erased either?

Thanks for all the advice so far! Nice and quick =)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
Yes, you will have to reinstall all your programs that require installing. Installation makes all of the registry entries required for the software to run.

If the installation goes bad you will be able to boot into Vista as usual. In that event come back here and we'll help you remove the boot entry and start over or whatever you like. Shouldn't be any problems though, so long as your getting the RC from Microsoft and not a torrent.

Gary
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
Ah ok, thanks! So my files will be kept but my programs must be reinstalled. No big deal. Although I will have to re-download (legally) the 6gb installation file for Adobe Creative Suite! Ahh! And MS Office too for that matter :rolleyes: But ok I decided I will partition off 40gb, now I'm just waiting for the Windows Backup to finish moving my stuff to my external first (it's taking hours and isn't even half done!) because I feel like it's probably not a good idea to do the partition while it's trying to copy all my files over. I think I'm going to go ahead and install W7 once that is done though, so hopefully my computer doesnt freak out!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
haha, we hope so too, less work for the both of us, but if it all turns pair shaped, were here for you.
 

My Computer

OS
W7 7127 X64
I'm off to do a clean install of Vista SP2. See you on the other side. ;)

Gary
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS420
OS
Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz
Memory
Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2207 + HPvs15
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 + 1024x768
Hard Drives
2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve
Mouse
MX Revolution
Other Info
Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
Oh, and I guess one last thing before I do install.. It says on the Windows website that to install you need to know how to set up a server. What exactly does this entail that I do?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
nothing, if youve every installed an OS before, its pretty much the same, server is only if you intned to run it on a server.
 

My Computer

OS
W7 7127 X64
That's what I like to hear :), and in the meantime do you mind if I ask if you've experienced any major bugs or compatibility issues that might be of concern?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite A305-S6858 Special Edition
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel 2 Core Duo T5750 @ 2.0Ghz x 2.0Ghz
Memory
4GB
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