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[smarteyeball]

I guess my quibble was with the use of the words "safe".

I think you'll find my use of the words "safe" and "max safe" are always within quotation marks.

The connotation of words between quotation marks " " should be a clear implication that there is a difference from categorically stating with 100% impunity that it is safe vs the general consensus of "considered safe", derived from thousands of others trials and errors with varying results.

I very much doubt an Intel person ever stated that, I am sure through all the multitude of reading you have done you misremember. Even if they thought it they would not state it publicly in writing.

I don't recall saying it was an official statement. Off the record comments are never repeated are they :sarc:

And to be quite honest, I have better things to do than go re-trawling through forums/threads/posts just to back up a debate.

I think the audience here is a little different than core overclockers.

Of that I am fully aware.

Hence you'll find I don't give out blanket 'crank it till it carks it' advice. What I do to my processor isn't a rally for all to try.

I certainly don't recall forcing anyone to do anything they are uncomfortable with.

And unless my memory is really that bad, I've already mentioned that the majority of users in this sections are using 1.5V kits rendering this drawn out debate moot.

There are only a handful of us using 1.65V kits and I've found that out of all them, none of them are lacking in intellect themselves and well aware of the inherent risks that Overclocking entails.


People are more than welcome to trawl through posts to find the info they need. And if they don't want my help, they are free not to take it. If they do, I'm happy to help.

Basically, it's that simple.

It is too bad Intel and the memory makers won't get together ion the memory voltages.

I'd agree with you on that since it's true, but it seems to be of little point.

You seem keen to disagree with anything I have to say. If that's the stance you wish to take, then so be it. It's a pity though, as I've respected your input previously.

 

[GeneO]

I don't recall saying it was an official statement. Off the record comments are never repeated are they :sarc:

Well I hate to be disagreeable, and I don;t mean this as a personal attack, but then your statement about Intel stating these are safe maximum voltages isn't worth a grain of salt. Just sayin, if there is nothing to corroborate the statement...

 

[smarteyeball]

I don't recall saying it was an official statement. Off the record comments are never repeated are they :sarc:

Well I hate to be disagreeable, sand I don;t mean this as a personal attack, but then your statement about Intel stating these are safe maximum voltages isn't worth a grain of salt.

That's fair enough mate.

 

[GeneO]

Getting back on topic (sorry I am such a PITA). Does anybody know of any adverse affects of setting the VRM Phase control to extreme (all phases full on) vs standard (Intel) on the Asus Z68 or P67 boards? I seem to get a more stable overclock with lower core temperatures. but I wonder about the passively cooled, unmonitored?, VRM temps under these conditions. Don't want to cut of the nose to spite the face (age the motherboard faster so that the CPU can live longer - they cost about the same ). I am at a good fairly cool low voltage stable 4.4GHz with the phase control on extreme at the phase frequency manually set to 350 MHz.

 

[Britton30]

Whew! Ok now go have some ice creme kids. :busted:

 

[smarteyeball]

Getting back on topic (sorry I am such a PITA). Does anybody know of any adverse affects of setting the VRM Phase control to extreme (all phases full on) vs standard (Intel) on the Asus Z68 or P67 boards? I seem to get a more stable overclock with lower core temperatures. but I wonder about the passively cooled, unmonitored?, VRM temps under these conditions. Don't want to cut of the nose to spite the face (age the motherboard faster so that the CPU can live longer - they cost about the same ). I am at a good fairly cool low voltage stable 4.4GHz with the phase control on extreme at the phase frequency manually set to 350 MHz.

This might be a good read:

[H]ard|Forum - View Single Post - Official ASUS P8P67 Series Overclocking Guide and Information

In the interest of disclosure, I've had a couple of beers and believe I would do you and others a disservice by going for a in depth explanation.

But if you have adequate airflow (keeping the VRM's cool) then it shouldn't be that much of an issue re longevity. Obviously though, less constant supplied voltage whilst maintaining other lower voltage settings and stability would increase a components life span.

Simply put, it wouldn't be a quick board killer.

 

[GeneO]

Getting back on topic (sorry I am such a PITA). Does anybody know of any adverse affects of setting the VRM Phase control to extreme (all phases full on) vs standard (Intel) on the Asus Z68 or P67 boards? I seem to get a more stable overclock with lower core temperatures. but I wonder about the passively cooled, unmonitored?, VRM temps under these conditions. Don't want to cut of the nose to spite the face (age the motherboard faster so that the CPU can live longer - they cost about the same ). I am at a good fairly cool low voltage stable 4.4GHz with the phase control on extreme at the phase frequency manually set to 350 MHz.

This might be a good read:

[H]ard|Forum - View Single Post - Official ASUS P8P67 Series Overclocking Guide and Information

In the interest of disclosure, I've had a couple of beers and believe I would do you and others a disservice by going for a in depth explanation.

But if you have adequate airflow (keeping the VRM's cool) then it shouldn't be that much of an issue re longevity. Obviously though, less constant supplied voltage whilst maintaining other lower voltage settings and stability would increase a components life span.

Simply put, it wouldn't be a quick board killer.

I have to pen my case today. I will exercise it and check out the temps on the VRM heat sinks.

 

[Wishmaster]

I've just been letting my MOBO handle the VRM setting on its own. Haven't messed much with it, but Ive yet too see mine over 40C.
Typically 35-38C is where it runs, and its a passive design.
Im assuming thats pretty good.
The way mine is designed, and the CPU HS, it seem to exhaust air over the VRM area, effectively cooling it somewhat.


But Ive always thought those settings,or the extreme setting, had the most benefit for extreme Overclocking. I could be mistaken though.

 

[GeneO]

Meh. I thought I had better core temps with a more aggressive phase setting but it turns out it must have been a change in my ambient temp as when I changed the phase settings during stressing, no difference. And at 4.4 GHz at least, the VRM phase settings doesn't seem to affect stability. So I go for cooler VRM for now. Thank you all.

 

[Britton30]

This is why we want to have the latest BIOS, to choose UEFI2...without the spooky face.

 

[essenbe]

This is why we want to have the latest BIOS, to choose UEFI2...without the spooky face.

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That looks pretty cool, Gary. If you don't like it I will swap your board for mine.:sarc: Mine (2nd one) just arrived and looks good, except for the 2 bent pins in the CPU socket.

 

[Britton30]

This is why we want to have the latest BIOS, to choose UEFI2...without the spooky face.

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That looks pretty cool, Gary. If you don't like it I will swap your board for mine.:sarc: Mine (2nd one) just arrived and looks good, except for the 2 bent pins in the CPU socket.

Does the i5 come with it?
This is better, but the board is another POS, won't run anything except default settings ASSrock, bah!. Nah it's worse, RAM is 800MHz and it's 1866. Double bah!

 

[GeneO]

This is why we want to have the latest BIOS, to choose UEFI2...without the spooky face.

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That looks pretty cool, Gary. If you don't like it I will swap your board for mine.:sarc: Mine (2nd one) just arrived and looks good, except for the 2 bent pins in the CPU socket.

Bent pins, ack! Sorry you are having such bad luck. It seems that of all components, MB have the most problems out of the box.

 

[essenbe]

Thanks Gene. You know, I've built quite a few computers and have never had a bad motherboard out of the box. Now, 2 in a row. I still think it is Gary's fault. His luck seems to be rubbing off on me.

 

[Wishmaster]

That face would drive me nuts lol
The second splash screen look good though.

Mines pretty plain jane looking compared to ASUS, AsRock, MSI etc ... but its functional.


I didnt take that screen BTW, just an example as I was to lazy to reboot and get one. But its identical.

 

[Britton30]

Thanks Gene. You know, I've built quite a few computers and have never had a bad motherboard out of the box. Now, 2 in a row. I still think it is Gary's fault. His luck seems to be rubbing off on me.

Not all of it, I still have some left for me.

That face would drive me nuts lol
The second splash screen look good though.

Mines pretty plain jane looking compared to ASUS, AsRock, MSI etc ... but its functional.
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I didnt take that screen BTW, just an example as I was to lazy to reboot and get one. But its identical.

Whoever did that was lazy too, they snapped a pic. Yes that face was creepy and too much red.

 

[smarteyeball]

Mine (2nd one) just arrived and looks good, except for the 2 bent pins in the CPU socket.

Damn I wonder if it's a refurb :huh:

Either way that's poor bloody form

 

[GeneO]

4.5 GHz at reasonable temperatures finally!

I had to give up on the Hyper 612 (see below and attached images) - I could only get comfortably up to 4.3 and I knew it wasn't cooling right and knew why. So I put in my old trusty Hyper 212+, fired it up, and got right up to 4.5 GHz with 72c maximum on IBT. prime 95 in the low 60c. And the Arctic Silver 5 TIM his fresh on the chip and not cured.

The only thing I have configured that is not standard Intel voltages, etc, are the Vcore, the VRM phase is set to optimal, and the low power C states off (but EIST enabled). All the other voltages I took off auto and set so they measured at the "typical" middle of the spread DC voltage per Intel spec. Vcore under load is 1.246v. Pretty decent I think. I think I might back of to 4.4 GHz for 24x7.

So here is the problem I had with the Hyper 612 - see the attached images. It is huge and should cool great if it would make good contact the CPU! As you can see from the photo, unlike the Hyper 212+, you can't screw it in from the CPU side because screws (well they really are bolts) are under the cooling fins, and the screws go right through the motherboard. It is a PITA to install - you need two people. So the bracket s holding the screws accommodate different sockets by allowing the screw to be moved to 3 different idents in the bracket, where the screws are held in place with springs. 1155 is the middle indent. Once the screw is in the indent, it is not supposed to be able to rotate. Problem is, one screw on each of my brackets would rotate. You could feel the nut tightening, then the screw would rotate out of the indent. I could not get it to tighten securely enough. You can see the result by the pattern of the TIM, which was initially spread on the CPU. The fact that I could get it up to 4.3 GHz under 72c IBT is pretty amazing. :shock:

Anyhow, rant over. The reason I brought it up is I am not an isolated case with the 612. I found a review at Amazon or someplace from someone with the same issue.

EDIT:
So I have inspected the brackets on the Hyper 612 and I think the problem is that the bracket is slightly bent towards the MB giving the screw room to pop out of its indent as its nut is being tightened (if you look at the picture of the end of the screw, the thread doesn't go all the way up to the screw head). So anyone with a Hyper 612 experiencing these issues, check that your brackets are true.


Cheers!

 

[smarteyeball]

Wow. That's a prime example of bad contact right there :shock:

 

[Wishmaster]

70-72c under Prime load .. that looks pretty good IMO.

That should mean the most heavy real worl load should probably hit maybe 62C. Which is a really good place to be I think.