[Q] power supply upgrade

crazymonkey05

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hello all i have a emachines w3619 with a ecs 945gct-m3 mobo and was wanting a power supply upgrade.....my mobo is weird though because as you can see in the picture i have two spots for the extra 4-pin connector or so i think....anyways i was wanting to upgrade the psu for a new powerful graphics card so any advice to upgrade will be appriciated
 

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I would get a download copy of the manual for this MB from the ECS website to verify what all the connections are used for. Plus some MFG computer cases do not always fit the standard replacement PSU's.
 

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Your motherboard has a 24 pin ATX power connector, plus a 4 pin +12V CPU power connector.

It looks like your system may have been built using a 20 pin ATX power plug, leaving 4 disused pins in the connector. (That's OK, as long as the system is getting enough power.)

An industry standard ATX power supply, with 24 pin ATX (often 20+4, for native use in either 20 or 24 pin ATX boards) and a 4 pin +12V connector, ought to be OK electrically.

I can't find whether one would fit in the eMachines case, but from some eBay listings, looks like it ought to.

Just out of curiosity, why are you upgrading the PSU?
 

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Your motherboard has a 24 pin ATX power connector, plus a 4 pin +12V CPU power connector.

It looks like your system may have been built using a 20 pin ATX power plug, leaving 4 disused pins in the connector. (That's OK, as long as the system is getting enough power.)

An industry standard ATX power supply, with 24 pin ATX (often 20+4, for native use in either 20 or 24 pin ATX boards) and a 4 pin +12V connector, ought to be OK electrically.

I can't find whether one would fit in the eMachines case, but from some eBay listings, looks like it ought to.

Just out of curiosity, why are you upgrading the PSU?

Well I want a better PSU because I want a graphics card so I can play games on my PC but most recommend a good 400 watt supply and I have like a 180 watt supply, so yea that's why
 

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PC/Desktop
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Emachines w3619
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service pack 1
CPU
Intel Celeron D @ 3.46Ghz
Motherboard
ECS 945GCT-M3
Memory
2GB DDR 2
Graphics Card(s)
intel 945g on-bord graphics
Sound Card
2-C-Media PCI Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E173FPs
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate barracuda 7200.9 120GB
PSU
Delta Electronics DPS: 300 AB.15b Rev:00f
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costom
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Generic CPU fan
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Logitech MK320 set
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I would get a download copy of the manual for this MB from the ECS website to verify what all the connections are used for. Plus some MFG computer cases do not always fit the standard replacement PSU's.

And I looked for a manual but could not find a free one
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Emachines w3619
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service pack 1
CPU
Intel Celeron D @ 3.46Ghz
Motherboard
ECS 945GCT-M3
Memory
2GB DDR 2
Graphics Card(s)
intel 945g on-bord graphics
Sound Card
2-C-Media PCI Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E173FPs
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate barracuda 7200.9 120GB
PSU
Delta Electronics DPS: 300 AB.15b Rev:00f
Case
costom
Cooling
Generic CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 set
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Logitech MK320 set
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Can you measure the outside dimensions of your current PSU case ?


Here is the basic
Dimensions 5.9" x 3.39" x 5.51" of a standard PSU
 

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AMD fx8350 4ghz, AMD-32 2400mhz, AMD-64 3200mhz, AMDx64 2.8G
Motherboard
SIS 755, ECS-K8M890M-M (Ult 7600), GigaByte & others
Memory
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Graphics Card(s)
Draw my own Graphics, several nVidia cards
Sound Card
on motherboard
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Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024, 1440 x 900, 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
6 pata Ide HD's & 2 Sata HD's
added 80gb external on Ult 7600 computer,
numerous extra 1tb, 2TB, 3Tb SATA HD's
A collection of ext HD Docks w/ HDs
PSU
430w, 550w, 600w, 700, 800, etc
Case
All Generic Full Towers
Cooling
Open Air & a few fans, some w/ colored LEDs
Keyboard
Compaq & Dell recycled from GoodWill
Mouse
Made in China Optical Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
Fast Cable InterNet
Antivirus
AVG Free on 24 different Desktops, NO Problems!
Browser
IE 8 is preferred, but use FireFox sometimes
Other Info
Linksys Routers, switches, & Hubs
Too Many USB Flash Drives to count, Biggest is 64GB !
Eight computers in my home network.
Sixteen computers at my business network.
Linked via TeamViewer !
Lots of old used spare computer parts everywhere!
Do you have any idea what graphics card you are thinking about? That would help.

How many auxiliary PCI-E power connectors will the graphics card need? I expect 2 so you will want to get a PSU that has 2 PCI-E power connector. Usually than means more power - around 500W.

With 1 graphics card you probably will not need more than 450W on the 12V. Especially if you don't overclock.

Here are some good ones:

If only 1 6 pin PCI-E connector is needed, 430W:

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com

If 1 six pin + 1 6+2 pin:

430W:
SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W ATX12V V2.3/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
520W:
SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com

2 6+2 pin:
450W
Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92, SLI Ready, CrossFire Ready, Active - PFC Power Supply - Retail - Newegg.com
 

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Well I want a better PSU because I want a graphics card so I can play games on my PC but most recommend a good 400 watt supply and I have like a 180 watt supply, so yea that's why

Do you have a particular graphics card in mind?
 

My Computer

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homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
Well I want a better PSU because I want a graphics card so I can play games on my PC but most recommend a good 400 watt supply and I have like a 180 watt supply, so yea that's why

Do you have a particular graphics card in mind?

Well I was hopeing on this one would be good to stick in my pc
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Emachines w3619
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service pack 1
CPU
Intel Celeron D @ 3.46Ghz
Motherboard
ECS 945GCT-M3
Memory
2GB DDR 2
Graphics Card(s)
intel 945g on-bord graphics
Sound Card
2-C-Media PCI Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E173FPs
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate barracuda 7200.9 120GB
PSU
Delta Electronics DPS: 300 AB.15b Rev:00f
Case
costom
Cooling
Generic CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 set
Mouse
Logitech MK320 set
Internet Speed
PING: 82 ms DOWNLOAD: 0.760 MB/s UPLOAD: 0.077 MB/s
Antivirus
avast! free antivirus
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Any of the PSU I listed above should do. I don't think that card even requires a PCI-E auxiliary power. But you won't be able to play many modern games with it if that is what you are looking for.
 

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Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS
Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU
i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory
16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card
Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
PSU
Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Keyboard
Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse
Logitech G602
Internet Speed
126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info
USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.

WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
Well I can play games like mine craft with minimal lag already so yea I don't plan on being a big PC gamer that's what my Xbox is for I just plan on playing small inde games like slender man and amnesia
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Emachines w3619
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service pack 1
CPU
Intel Celeron D @ 3.46Ghz
Motherboard
ECS 945GCT-M3
Memory
2GB DDR 2
Graphics Card(s)
intel 945g on-bord graphics
Sound Card
2-C-Media PCI Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E173FPs
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate barracuda 7200.9 120GB
PSU
Delta Electronics DPS: 300 AB.15b Rev:00f
Case
costom
Cooling
Generic CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech MK320 set
Mouse
Logitech MK320 set
Internet Speed
PING: 82 ms DOWNLOAD: 0.760 MB/s UPLOAD: 0.077 MB/s
Antivirus
avast! free antivirus
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Google Chrome, Mozzila firefox, Internet Explorer
Well I want a better PSU because I want a graphics card so I can play games on my PC but most recommend a good 400 watt supply and I have like a 180 watt supply, so yea that's why

Do you have a particular graphics card in mind?

Well I was hopeing on this one would be good to stick in my pc

The 5450 is a low-end, low power card. 2GB of onboard memory may be a waste on it. If you can live with 1GB, and you're in the US or Canada, you can get cards for $35 or less.

A 6450 would be better, for about $5 more. They are similar, except the 6450 has twice the number of stream processors as the 5450.

I doubt that you really need a good 400W power supply with either. They are very low power cards, and they are available at half-height for small form factor systems. (You can use a half-height card, but buy one that includes a full-height bracket.)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
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