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Flame war: The great Windows 7 debate

Not a day goes by in which InfoWorld fails to receive a flaming comment or e-mail attacking InfoWorld's Enterprise Desktop blogger Randall C. Kennedy and his recent analysis of the pre-beta version of Windows 7. As time goes on, it gets more personal. Recently, I received this little gem: "Randall C. Kennedy is a jaded, personally hurt, pathological liar who only does a disservice to your Web site."

Enjoy? :p more ...

Flame war: The great Windows 7 debate | InfoWorld | Analysis | 2008-12-02 | By Randall C. Kennedy,Thom Holwerda
 

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The little man must get wood with all this attention :p
 

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Hi Smarty

Because this is such a civilized and well run forum and we don't have any flame wars, I just thought we might share in someone else's LOL :D
 

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Well. I plowed through it best I could. Apart from two learned men arguing like a couple of kids, I could not see anything in it where Howerda postively disputed Kennedy's findings about 7.
There have been several more benchmarks since then, all confirming that this release does not outshine Vista or XP in any particular fashion. The point which was not emphasised enough, is that it is ludicrous to benchmark a two year mature OS with a release which has not yet even reached Beta stage.
My own immature and inexperienced comparisons, in an earlier post on this site, concluded the same thing. In fact, with my customised and well tuned Vista, I was able to produce, in several instances, better performance.
But I would not be so bold as to slam Windows 7, at least one year before it's final, and , hopefully, mature release.
 
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Barman58 said:
Hi Smarty

Because this is such a civilized and well run forum and we don't have any flame wars, I just thought we might share in someone else's LOL :D
Click to expand...


Lol. The little fella does give me a giggle ;)

You can just picture him at home, patting Mr.Fluffykins while telling him how big and brave "daddy" is :)
 

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I've never heard it called Mr Fluffykins before....;)...It must be an Aussie thing!

















Later :o Ted
 

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* BFK Customs *
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ATI : XFX 5870
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Realtek HD Audio 7-1
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1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
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1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
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Corsair 620HX
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Cooler Master RC-690
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Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
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Microsoft 500
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@Ted

:D ROFLMAO :D
 

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    Asus Prime X570-Pro
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    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
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    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
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    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
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    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
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    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
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    Dell XPS
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    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
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    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
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    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
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    10.2" tablet
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    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
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    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
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