Solved Random BSOD x124 caused by hal.dll

[Jakeulas]

Thanks for your thought on the CPUs. My temps with the H60 are super low. At idle its 28c and during the few games I tried to start it'd barely hit 55c. My gpu idles at 51c. After my vanilla I stall I only have MSE (Microsoft security essentials) running. I have ccleaner installed and 2 temp monitor apps. I still haven't installed my ssd, need another sata cable. But I want to install it with a clean version of windows and then install everything one at a time. (apps and updates)

However, I'm reluctant to do all that if rePlacing the CPU is gonna fix it.
(commence ripping out the hair!)

 

[Jakeulas]

so lasr night after 6 hrs without a bsod, i decided to try gaming. i played about 2 hrs no trouble then my keyboard just quit working. Batteries didnt help, so i stopped for the night.

i was excited i got to do anything for that long. i did monitor my cpu temps, the gpu hit 90% while gaming with temps right at 70c. the cpu ran at 50c.

then this morning wanted to try again, BSoD! (while searching google for keyboards) So heres the dump. i just want to rule out anything other than the cpu.

 

[Arc]

This is your processor's state:

0: kd> !errrec fffffa8007e6e028
===============================================================================
Common Platform Error Record @ fffffa8007e6e028
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Record Id     : 01cd980859cec5c6
Severity      : Fatal (1)
Length        : 928
Creator       : Microsoft
Notify Type   : Machine Check Exception
Timestamp     : 9/21/2012 15:00:06
Flags         : 0x00000000

===============================================================================
Section 0     : Processor Generic
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Descriptor    @ fffffa8007e6e0a8
Section       @ fffffa8007e6e180
Offset        : 344
Length        : 192
Flags         : 0x00000001 Primary
Severity      : Fatal

Proc. Type    : x86/x64
Instr. Set    : x64
[COLOR=Red][B]Error Type    : Cache error
Operation     : Data Read[/B][/COLOR]
Flags         : 0x00
Level         : 1
CPU Version   : 0x0000000000100fa0
Processor ID  : 0x0000000000000000

===============================================================================
Section 1     : x86/x64 Processor Specific
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Descriptor    @ fffffa8007e6e0f0
Section       @ fffffa8007e6e240
Offset        : 536
Length        : 128
Flags         : 0x00000000
[COLOR=Red]Severity      : Fatal[/COLOR]

Local APIC Id : 0x0000000000000000
CPU Id        : a0 0f 10 00 00 08 06 00 - 09 20 80 00 ff fb 8b 17
                00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
                00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Proc. Info 0  @ fffffa8007e6e240

===============================================================================
Section 2     : x86/x64 MCA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Descriptor    @ fffffa8007e6e138
Section       @ fffffa8007e6e2c0
Offset        : 664
Length        : 264
Flags         : 0x00000000
[COLOR=Red]Severity      : Fatal[/COLOR]

[COLOR=Red][B]Error         : DCACHEL1_DRD_ERR (Proc 0 Bank 0)[/B][/COLOR]
  Status      : 0xb600400064000135
  Address     : 0x00000001c58d5630
  Misc.       : 0x0000000000000000

So, you should go for the Prime95 test, I think!
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-hardware-stress-test-prime95.html

 

[Jakeulas]

Thank you ARC, just so I know I'm doing this right and looking for the right stuff, how should I run Furnark and what should I be watching for?

 

[Arc]

That was a typo, sorry.
You are to take the Prime 95 test, how, the link is added in my previous post.

 

[Britton30]

An afterthought here. MSI boards aren't the sharpest tool in the shed and if it has a malfunctioning socket or chipset, it could appear the CPU is bad.
Unfortunately the only way to test is swapping hardware.

 

[Jakeulas]

Here's the results of my test. I let it run 3 hrs. Core temps maxed at 49c

What mobo's do you recommend?

 

[Arc]

So, CPU can take the stress, and not causing the crashes.

Test the GFX card, too?
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100356-video-card-stress-test-furmark.html

Sorry, but for stop 124, it is the only way to troubleshoot, to identify what part of hardware is causing the trouble.

 

[Jakeulas]

i ran the test for 15 min, but i don't know where it logged the data to??
Everything seemed fine. No artifacts. temps leveled out at 83c at 1:30.

this was the test i just ran last week.

 

[Jakeulas]

So, we've essential ruled out by testing cpu, gfx, and the memory, multiple times now for 3 weeks. I'm left to say the mobo is bad and that will be my next purchase. Again I'm hoping for bang for buck and don't wanna spend more than $100, but I want room for improvement.

Any suggestions?

 

[Britton30]

Here are some which may work well for you.
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

 

[Jakeulas]

ok i have a friend with a compatible am3 mobo, hes gonna let me test it out.
I usually can get on my pc for 4 or 5 hours without an issue, however this morning I got 3 or 4 bsod in a row. (all i did was move my pc over like 6 inches) Care to take a look and see anything new or different than before?

 

[Arc]

Exactly the same as the previous dumps! Ditto copy.

How far have you gone through Stop 0x124 Troubleshooting ?

 

[Jakeulas]

ive done it ALL up to no. 9. I'm now attempting to replace components one at a time.

 

[Arc]

That's the last thing that you can do!

Best of luck. I hope you will be able too find the problem component out.

 

[Jakeulas]

if it doesnt work, i'll never build a pc again!!!

thats a lie... i'll never stop creating these monsters.


random thought, can memory overheat? How can i cool them?
EDIT : nevermind, i can touch them and i barely feel any heat

 

[Britton30]

It would be a rare occurrence for RAM to overheat. Maybe in such of an instance if the motherboard voltage controllers were bad.
All the RAM fans are mostly for looks and bling.

 

[Jakeulas]

Hey guys, so I'm still waiting for a friend to remove the motherboard he's gonna let me try and I'm holding out on purchasing another cpu til then, however I've been reading a lot about this VRM issue with MSI mobos. Someone posted this on another site.

I've read before here that the vdroop problems with your board are due to only having a 4pin cpu power instead of an 8pin one, at least that happened with 6-core PHIIs because the VRMs weren't capable of giving the cpu enough power.

Could you offer any insight to this? Could I have a faulty board with VRM issues? How can I test it?

 

[Britton30]

You could have a faulty VRM, Voltage Regulator Module. That is the capacitors that are near or surround the CPU socket, some have a big heat sink on them.
Vdroop relates to Intel CPUs. I don't know of a way for a home user to test it though.

 

[Jakeulas]

Sorry, this has taken me so long to respond. My friend flaked out on me and so I had to buy a motherboard, also was in the process of moving houses. I also decided to buy a new case too, since I was gonna be installing a new mobo anyways.

So, I picked up the black Thor V2 case. Large, lots of room to breathe and large fans. Not possible to have a cooling issue now.
Also bought the Gigabyte 990fxa-ud3, (got 2x4gb of Patriot Gamer RAM included ), new sata cables, and a 120GB SSD.

Got everything installed and within 30min of running a game, BSoD. Same one. x124 Uncorrectable hardware failure.

So back to the drawing board. I'm looking at the processor. Trying to decide on replacing my x6 t1100 with the x4 965 BE or a FX4170.

Any thoughts? It'll be for surfing and gaming.