Random Crash

DanK

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I am having similar problems to others within this forum. I have random crashes that include the following.
Firefox 3.5 - running Pandora radio, computer locks and sound loops continuously - I am forced to hard stop the computer.
iTunes - same problem as above.
The firefox and itune problem does not always occur.
I also have random crashes when multi-tasking i.e. playing video and downloading files simultaneously.

I have updated video driver, sound driver and bios. I have run memtest for 20 hours with no errors. I am at a total loss to figure it out. Your advise will be greatly appreciated.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
WIndows 7 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (dual core)
Motherboard
MSI 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333 4 GB Total 2 X 2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 3300 (onboard)
Sound Card
Chipset integrated by Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 731 BF LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 750 GB WDC WD7500AADS-00L5B1 Sata Internal
Western Digital 1 TB WDC WD10EACS-22D6B0 External USB
PSU
Corsair 750 Watt
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
3 internal generic fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX320
Internet Speed
100 mbs
Does it go to a blue screen? If so, please link the dump file.

If not, then this is a hardware freeze...

~Lordbob
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hera
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
PSU
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Razer Tarantula
Mouse
Razer Lachesis
Internet Speed
not fast enough
It could possibly still be a RAM related issue.
Memtest is a great tool, but it can be wrong.

I have seen MEmtest 86 pass for 22+ hrs, yet still get occasional lock ups, looping sound, and everything frozen during a few gaming sessions. or oddball things happen that shouldnt. Forcing a HARD restart.

I eventually ran intel burn test, and at pass 12 it flagged it as instable. further testing indeed showed it to be a bad stick of RAM.

This may not be the case for you, but it was for me in past experience.



just to clarify ... When you say crash, do you mean the entire PC crashes and reboots or just the application you're working with?

BSOD, Error message?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom (Self Build)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
Motherboard
eVGA P67 SLI
Memory
8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2453V
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
Cooling
eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
Other Info
LG BD/DVD
Does it go to a blue screen? If so, please link the dump file.

If not, then this is a hardware freeze...

~Lordbob

I get the BSOD about 1 out of every 15 - 20 crashes. The other times the computer just freezes. The last memory dump file is dated December 19 yet it has frozen at least 20 times since then.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
WIndows 7 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (dual core)
Motherboard
MSI 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333 4 GB Total 2 X 2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 3300 (onboard)
Sound Card
Chipset integrated by Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 731 BF LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 750 GB WDC WD7500AADS-00L5B1 Sata Internal
Western Digital 1 TB WDC WD10EACS-22D6B0 External USB
PSU
Corsair 750 Watt
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
3 internal generic fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX320
Internet Speed
100 mbs
Does it go to a blue screen? If so, please link the dump file.

If not, then this is a hardware freeze...

~Lordbob

Sorry, here is the December 19 minidump file.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
WIndows 7 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (dual core)
Motherboard
MSI 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333 4 GB Total 2 X 2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 3300 (onboard)
Sound Card
Chipset integrated by Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 731 BF LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 750 GB WDC WD7500AADS-00L5B1 Sata Internal
Western Digital 1 TB WDC WD10EACS-22D6B0 External USB
PSU
Corsair 750 Watt
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
3 internal generic fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX320
Internet Speed
100 mbs
It could possibly still be a RAM related issue.
Memtest is a great tool, but it can be wrong.

I have seen MEmtest 86 pass for 22+ hrs, yet still get occasional lock ups, looping sound, and everything frozen during a few gaming sessions. or oddball things happen that shouldnt. Forcing a HARD restart.

I eventually ran intel burn test, and at pass 12 it flagged it as instable. further testing indeed showed it to be a bad stick of RAM.

This may not be the case for you, but it was for me in past experience.



just to clarify ... When you say crash, do you mean the entire PC crashes and reboots or just the application you're working with?

BSOD, Error message?

BSOD only about 1 for every 15 - 20 crashes. Most times the entire computer locks up. Nothing works except to shut it down., hard stop.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
WIndows 7 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (dual core)
Motherboard
MSI 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333 4 GB Total 2 X 2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 3300 (onboard)
Sound Card
Chipset integrated by Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 731 BF LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 750 GB WDC WD7500AADS-00L5B1 Sata Internal
Western Digital 1 TB WDC WD10EACS-22D6B0 External USB
PSU
Corsair 750 Watt
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
3 internal generic fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX320
Internet Speed
100 mbs
Wow, thats a really rare stop code. But I do know it points to a hardware issue. So lets do this: Take your computer completely apart, except for the bare minimum it needs to run. If the BSoD continues, then its a bigger issue. If it stops, then add hardware back in until it returns.

~Lordbob
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hera
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
PSU
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Razer Tarantula
Mouse
Razer Lachesis
Internet Speed
not fast enough
Please provide this info, it may help to point out the cause of the freezes:
MSINFO32
Please go to Start and type in "msinfo32.exe" (without the quotes) and press Enter
Save the report as an .nfo file, then zip up the .nfo file and upload/attach the .zip file with your next post.

If you're having difficulties with the format, please open an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt and type "msinfo32 /nfo C:\Users\Public\Desktop\TEST.NFO\" (without the quotes) and press Enter. Then navigate to the C:\Users\Public\Desktop directory to retrieve the TEST.NFO file. If you have difficulties with making this work, please post back.

While the error doesn't point directly to this, it does suggest that there are video issues (from the presence of the video driver in the stack text).
Update your video drivers to the latest version available at Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (if it's already updated, uninstall it and reinstall the driver only (NOT the Catalyst Control Center))

Also, please update these older drivers:
Code:
tdrpman.sys  Mon Nov 12 08:36:33 2007
timntr.sys   Wed Aug 29 08:38:23 2007
tifsfilt.sys Wed Aug 29 08:37:29 2007

Also, check inside the case to make sure that the video card is clean and dust free (especially in the cooler), that the power connetions to it are firmly seated, that the fan is operating and the card is getting good air circulation.

Should the BSOD's continue - please post them as you get them.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (x64), Lenovo x61s Tablet, Samsung Netbook
OS
Win7 x64 + x86
CPU
Intel i7 920, other Intel chips, and the Atom in the netbook
Motherboard
Asus P6T Deluxe
Memory
12 gB; 4 gB Lenovo; 1 gB Samsung netbook
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4870
Sound Card
Yes, I have one of these
Monitor(s) Displays
32" Sharp Aquos TV
Screen Resolution
800x600 - I have vision issues
Hard Drives
4 - 150 gB Velociraptors in RAID 5
Promise controller
PSU
1000 watt (can't recall the brand)
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Big honking cooler that was rated highly at Toms Hardware
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural
Mouse
Logitech Trackman
Internet Speed
Cable
Other Info
GeekSquad UPS
CyberPower UPS
DLink DNS-323 NAS (2 tB)
Netgear wireless router as an access point
Netgear wired router FSV-318
Home network consists of
4 desktop computers (2 Vista, 2 Win7)
1 netbook (Win7)
4 laptop computers (XP, 2-Vista, Win7)
Wii and XBox 360
Those 3 drivers:
tdrpman.sys Mon Nov 12 08:36:33 2007
timntr.sys Wed Aug 29 08:38:23 2007
tifsfilt.sys Wed Aug 29 08:37:29 2007


Should belong to Acronis True Image

Most likely know this already, but just in case the OP doesn't realize.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom (Self Build)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
Motherboard
eVGA P67 SLI
Memory
8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2453V
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
Cooling
eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
Other Info
LG BD/DVD
Thanks Wishmaster! I didn't know that!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (x64), Lenovo x61s Tablet, Samsung Netbook
OS
Win7 x64 + x86
CPU
Intel i7 920, other Intel chips, and the Atom in the netbook
Motherboard
Asus P6T Deluxe
Memory
12 gB; 4 gB Lenovo; 1 gB Samsung netbook
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4870
Sound Card
Yes, I have one of these
Monitor(s) Displays
32" Sharp Aquos TV
Screen Resolution
800x600 - I have vision issues
Hard Drives
4 - 150 gB Velociraptors in RAID 5
Promise controller
PSU
1000 watt (can't recall the brand)
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Big honking cooler that was rated highly at Toms Hardware
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural
Mouse
Logitech Trackman
Internet Speed
Cable
Other Info
GeekSquad UPS
CyberPower UPS
DLink DNS-323 NAS (2 tB)
Netgear wireless router as an access point
Netgear wired router FSV-318
Home network consists of
4 desktop computers (2 Vista, 2 Win7)
1 netbook (Win7)
4 laptop computers (XP, 2-Vista, Win7)
Wii and XBox 360
Lordbob ~

Your reply prompted me to closely examine my moboard. I found that the MSI 790GX has a FSB overclock switch. The default settings for the two toggle switches have reverse logic. Both were switched so that I was inadvertently overclocking. I changed it and for two days my system is crash free. I even reinstalled by NvDia GT9500 graphics card. I have run the computer hard for the past several days and have no problems.

Lordbob & usasma - thanks for pointing me in the right direction. You rock!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
WIndows 7 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 (dual core)
Motherboard
MSI 790GX-G65 (MS-7576)
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333 4 GB Total 2 X 2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Chipset ATI Radeon HD 3300 (onboard)
Sound Card
Chipset integrated by Realtek ALC889
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 731 BF LCD
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 750 GB WDC WD7500AADS-00L5B1 Sata Internal
Western Digital 1 TB WDC WD10EACS-22D6B0 External USB
PSU
Corsair 750 Watt
Case
Generic ATX
Cooling
3 internal generic fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Standard Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech MX320
Internet Speed
100 mbs
DanK, thats great. That points towards your stuff overheating. Good thing you found that! Glad it works.

~Lordbob
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hera
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
CPU
Intel i5-2500k
Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory
2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Realtek HD OnBoard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS 24" Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II
PSU
Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W
Case
Cooler Master Haf 932
Cooling
Fans
Keyboard
Razer Tarantula
Mouse
Razer Lachesis
Internet Speed
not fast enough
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