Recover Second Partition

[gregrocker]

Drive map is posted on the image that's in the original Post. I will give Partition Wizard a try hoping I dont mess things up. Thanks for all the help. Will Post back with results!

^^READ 2nd POST ABOVE FIRST^^

 

[Minotar]

**SIW2 - You recommended the other night not to delete old Win7 partition before running startup repair. How will he know which Win7 installation to run startup repair on? In the past I have deleted the old Win7 after successfully copying it over into first partition space, then run Startup Repair. OK by you?

I made it very slighty bigger by dragging the slider to the right on the new one, so the bigger one is the new one

Ah,got there before me on the other post*

 

[gregrocker]

Need to see the drive map.

You say XP is deleted paritition on first half of Win7 drive but I don't see it.

You are right Dan it needs to be converted to Logical using PW, then marked active and copied onto XP space, run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

SIW2? Can you sort this w/o disk map? See no XP partition on Win7 drive.

Can you put the Drive map on as well as the listings from Disk Mgmt?

I think you got a bit mixed up.

The first partiton (the one with no letter) used to have xp on it,something went wrong i think he said in the first post.Also the Win7 has the boot.

So would it go..

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>Copy onto first partiton>set as active>boot up>delete old win7 partition?

Yeah the first partition on Disk0, where XP was. Delete it, copy WIn7 there.

Except convert to primary and mark active before copying, right SIW2?

I believe we had this same exact situation with yours the other night Dan. Why don't you double check with that thread.

 

[Dave76]

OK I see your drive map on OP.

CONFIRMED. Boot into Partition Wizard, delete first partition

Right click on Win7 partition, Modify>Convert to Primary

Right click Win7, copy into First partition's unallocated space.**

Boot into Win7 installer repair console, run startup repair repeatedly until it boots up

**SIW2 - You recommended the other night not to delete old Win7 partition before running startup repair. How will he know which Win7 installation to run startup repair on? In the past I have deleted the old Win7 after successfully copying it over into first partition space, then run Startup Repair. OK by you?

Need to see the drive map.

You say XP is deleted paritition on first half of Win7 drive but I don't see it.

You are right Dan it needs to be converted to Logical using PW, then marked active and copied onto XP space, run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

SIW2? Can you sort this w/o disk map? See no XP partition on Win7 drive.

Can you put the Drive map on as well as the listings from Disk Mgmt?

I think you got a bit mixed up.

The first partiton (the one with no letter) used to have xp on it,something went wrong i think he said in the first post.Also the Win7 has the boot.

So would it go..

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>Copy onto first partiton>set as active>boot up>delete old win7 partition?

Hi Guys,

BigOnTech said in the first post he wants one 300GB partition, might be easier this way.

What do you Guys think?

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>set as Active> expand the Win7 partition to take up the first partition> run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

 

[gregrocker]

Hi Guys,

BigOnTech said in the first post he wants one 300GB partition, might be easier this way.

What do you Guys think.

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>set as Active> expand the Win7 partition to take up the first partition> run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

I have never relied on expanding a second Win7 partition into first's space to move the MBR into place, used Copy or Move instead. Then he could later expand rightward.

But I would defer to you on this Dave if you know better.

Hope OP didn't jump the gun. SIW2 is around here somewhere.

 

[Minotar]

Yeah the first partition on Disk0, where XP was. Delete it, copy WIn7 there.

Except convert to primary and mark active before copying, right SIW2?

I believe we had this same exact situation with yours the other night Dan. Why don't you double check with that thread.

Just checked,

Boot the PW cd, it asks to select screen resolution. On your keyboard, make sure NUM LOCK is on. Type1, press Enter.

Rt click Vista partition - select Delete -click Apply ( at the bottom left of the screen ).

RT click 7 partition >Modify>Set as Primary, then Apply.

Rt click 7 partition again >Copy , in the scren that pops up click on the Unallocated space you made by deleting Vista. Click OK.

Leave the next screen as is, click Finish. Apply.

It will take a few minutes to copy.

Rt click the NEW 7 partition >Modify>Set as Active. Apply.

Then boot up 7 dvd - when you get to screen saying Install Now - at the bottom of that screen it says Repair My Computer - click that. Run Startup Repair 3 times.

Boot into the NEW 7 - it should be the default anyway - type msconfig in start search - click it - under the Boot tab, highlight the old 7 entry and delete.

You can delete the OLD 7 partition in Disk Management or with PW .

May as well install PW program if you didn't already.

Have Fun.

Hi Guys,

BigOnTech said in the first post he wants one 300GB partition, might be easier this way.

What do you Guys think?

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>set as Active> expand the Win7 partition to take up the first partition> run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

I dont think i could actually add all to the win7 partition (there was a small amount left,39gb)when i tried this,never thought of mentioning that in the old thread.

 

[Dave76]

Hi Guys,

BigOnTech said in the first post he wants one 300GB partition, might be easier this way.

What do you Guys think.

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>set as Active> expand the Win7 partition to take up the first partition> run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

I have never relied on expanding a second Win7 partition into first's space to move the MBR into place, used Copy or Move instead.

But I would defer to you on this Dave if you know better.

Doesn't he need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active?

Hope OP didn't jump the gun. SIW2 is around here somewhere.

Trying to remember for sure, but I think I did it that way before.
The way I understand it, PW will copy the current partition, expand that partition to the left, then copy it back. SIW2 can tell us if this will work.

Your right "need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active".

 

[BigOnTech]

Okay...Im back. Still have the same problem. Did for some reason run into a problem where it said NTLDR was missing, but luckily an hour earlier I had made a repair disc from a video i watched on CNET and that brought me back to life (whew!)
Im standing by for your help gregrocker

 

[gregrocker]

Hi Guys,

BigOnTech said in the first post he wants one 300GB partition, might be easier this way.

What do you Guys think.

Delete System Partition (First Partition)>Make Win7 Partition Primary>set as Active> expand the Win7 partition to take up the first partition> run Win 7 Startup repair 3 times.

I have never relied on expanding a second Win7 partition into first's space to move the MBR into place, used Copy or Move instead.

But I would defer to you on this Dave if you know better.

Doesn't he need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active?

Hope OP didn't jump the gun. SIW2 is around here somewhere.

Trying to remember for sure, but I think I did it that way before.
The way I understand it, PW will copy the current partition, expand that partition to the left, then copy it back. SIW2 can tell us if this will work.

Your right "need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active".

He could move it to the left just by sliding the bar all the way over to the left after deleting the first (deleted XP) partition. Would that carry the OS over as well? Would make it a lot easier.

 

[gregrocker]

Okay...Im back. Still have the same problem. Did for some reason run into a problem where it said NTLDR was missing, but luckily an hour earlier I had made a repair disc from a video i watched on CNET and that brought me back to life (whew!)
Im standing by for your help gregrocker

What did you do exactly?

Did you delete the first partition, Modify>convert to primary the Win7, mark it active then move it into the first partition's space? Then run startup repair 3 times?

What happened exactly? Where are you now?

 

[BigOnTech]

Im trying to understand all the post while I was gone. All good suggestions but so confusing. Good learning experience though

 

[Dave76]

Okay...Im back. Still have the same problem. Did for some reason run into a problem where it said NTLDR was missing, but luckily an hour earlier I had made a repair disc from a video i watched on CNET and that brought me back to life (whew!)
Im standing by for your help gregrocker

I have never relied on expanding a second Win7 partition into first's space to move the MBR into place, used Copy or Move instead.

But I would defer to you on this Dave if you know better.

Doesn't he need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active?

Hope OP didn't jump the gun. SIW2 is around here somewhere.

Trying to remember for sure, but I think I did it that way before.
The way I understand it, PW will copy the current partition, expand that partition to the left, then copy it back. SIW2 can tell us if this will work.

Your right "need to convert to Primary from logical in order to mark it Active".

He could move it to the left just by sliding the bar all the way over to the left after deleting the first (deleted XP) partition. Would that carry the OS over as well? Would make it a lot easier.

Greg, yes it will move the OS and it will be functional. The MBR will still need to be repaired. Let's see where BigOnTech is at now.

BigOnTech, Did you get the old XP partition deleted?

 

[gregrocker]

Then just rightclick delete the First parition.

then on Win7 partition rightclick>modify>convert to primary, mark active, rightclick move/resize>use bar slider to expand it over onto the first partition's space so it takes the entire drive

These will be cued up and need to be Applied. First Back up files., moving can fail.

BOot win7 installer and run startup repair repeatedly until it boots.

 

[BigOnTech]

Okay...Im back. Still have the same problem. Did for some reason run into a problem where it said NTLDR was missing, but luckily an hour earlier I had made a repair disc from a video i watched on CNET and that brought me back to life (whew!)
Im standing by for your help gregrocker

What did you do exactly?

Did you delete the first partition, Modify>convert to primary the Win7, mark it active then move it into the first partition's space? Then run startup repair 3 times?

What happened exactly? Where are you now?

Well I kinda got confused with everything so I marked the windows7 as primary and then marked the partition with no letter to get formatted and create a new partition which I named New.
Machine restarted and PW did its thing, but after it finished thats when NTLDR missing came up. Luckily I had that disc I had just made and after it repair 3 times my computer came back to life. Now I have the uncategorized partition with the label New, still not visible, and then the regular partition with windows7.

 

[Minotar]

Im trying to understand all the post while I was gone. All good suggestions but so confusing. Good learning experience though

This is SW12's post from my thread,very clear.

First you have to use the link to download the partition wizard boot disc
Free Download Partition Wizard
Bottom one,i.e Boot Disc

Mount it on a CD,if you dont have software use Download Active ISO Burner 2.0 - Freeware developed to help you burn ISO image to CD/DVD - Softpedia

Boot off the disc and then you can follow below.

Just give the lads a second to respond for any errors i might have made

SW12
Boot the PW cd, it asks to select screen resolution. On your keyboard, make sure NUM LOCK is on. Type1, press Enter.

Rt click Vista partition - select Delete -click Apply ( at the bottom left of the screen ).

RT click 7 partition >Modify>Set as Primary, then Apply.

Rt click 7 partition again >Copy , in the scren that pops up click on the Unallocated space you made by deleting Vista. Click OK.

Leave the next screen as is, click Finish. Apply.

It will take a few minutes to copy.

Rt click the NEW 7 partition >Modify>Set as Active. Apply.

Then boot up 7 dvd - when you get to screen saying Install Now - at the bottom of that screen it says Repair My Computer - click that. Run Startup Repair 3 times.

Boot into the NEW 7 - it should be the default anyway - type msconfig in start search - click it - under the Boot tab, highlight the old 7 entry and delete.

You can delete the OLD 7 partition in Disk Management or with PW .

May as well install PW program if you didn't already.

Have Fun.

Note: I didnt mention backing up the data becasue you said you had the disc,but incase anyone else reads this ,BACK UP YOUR FILES.

I did not and i created a bigger problem than there was.

 

[gregrocker]

Well I kinda got confused with everything so I marked the windows7 as primary and then marked the partition with no letter to get formatted and create a new partition which I named New.
Machine restarted and PW did its thing, but after it finished thats when NTLDR missing came up. Luckily I had that disc I had just made and after it repair 3 times my computer came back to life. Now I have the uncategorized partition with the label New, still not visible, and then the regular partition with windows7.

Does the first partition show up in PW?

Then just rightclick delete the First parition.

then on Windows 7 partition: rightclick>modify>convert to primary, mark active, rightclick> move/resize>use bar slider to expand it over onto the first partition's space so it takes the entire drive

These will be cued up and need to be Applied. First Back up files., moving can fail.

BOot Windows 7 installer and run startup repair repeatedly until it boots.

 

[BigOnTech]

Im at the point where Im about to just shrink the size of that partition. All it contains is some boot file, so might as well shrink it to say 2GB and then I get 147GB back which I can then merge with the windows7 partition. Im getting frustrated but I do appreciate all the help.

 

[Dave76]

Okay...Im back. Still have the same problem. Did for some reason run into a problem where it said NTLDR was missing, but luckily an hour earlier I had made a repair disc from a video i watched on CNET and that brought me back to life (whew!)
Im standing by for your help gregrocker

What did you do exactly?

Did you delete the first partition, Modify>convert to primary the Win7, mark it active then move it into the first partition's space? Then run startup repair 3 times?

What happened exactly? Where are you now?

Well I kinda got confused with everything so I marked the windows7 as primary and then marked the partition with no letter to get formatted and create a new partition which I named New.
Machine restarted and PW did its thing, but after it finished thats when NTLDR missing came up. Luckily I had that disc I had just made and after it repair 3 times my computer came back to life. Now I have the uncategorized partition with the label New, still not visible, and then the regular partition with windows7.

Can you get us a new Disk Management shot?

 

[BigOnTech]

Okay guys, I resized and create new partition with the big chunk and now I will just merge it with the other. Like I said, I appreciate your help very much so, Minotar, Gregrocker, Dave76, you guys are freaking awesome, and I hope to become very much active in this community.

 

[gregrocker]

Im at the point where Im about to just shrink the size of that partition. All it contains is some boot file, so might as well shrink it to say 2GB and then I get 147GB back which I can then merge with the windows7 partition. Im getting frustrated but I do appreciate all the help.

This is not that hard. We have helped many recently bail out of XP and move their WIn7 over into that space. This one isn't more complicated, just the decision whether to copy Win7 over onto deleted unallocated space where the first partition was, or move it so it takes up all of the disk space at the same time. I agree with Dave that moving it is best, but it is also risky and can fail so it would be best if you make a backup image of your disk to save on one of your other drives so you can quickly reimage if it fails.

Then if the other guys think these steps are sound, it should work:

Make an image backup to another drive using Win7 Backup imaging.

Use PW to delete the first partition.

Right click on Win7 partition>Modify>Convert to Primary, Mark Active, rightclick Move/resize>use slider to take up all space on disk. Apply all steps.

Boot into Win7 installer Repair MY Computer and run Startup Repair 3 times.