Show Us Your WEI (2)

[RealGoneKid]

For the SSD you do not need special glasses on your nose - LOL. Btw: for games, the SSD will probably be of little interest because games typically do not read much from disk. But for the OS and the general operation, SSDs are brilliant.

So If I was to install my OS on an SSD and rou my games off a SATA internal there would be no speed loss? and I would gain nothing by loading my games onto it anyway?
I use loads of applications, my program files is huge, but if I just use the SSD for OS and the programs I use the most I will benefit?
If this is true then no one really needs a big SSD!
With a 320GB SSD OCZ Vertex 2 like you have costing nearly £700, This is great news, a 90-120GB SSD could be plenty.

 

[essenbe]

Actually it would be great if you could afford a 500GB SSD. But for most of us that will never happen. But, I love my 90GB Vertex2. I put all user files on a spinner. I only use the SSD for OS and the programs I use frequently. Programs I want, but do not get used very often, get installed on the spinner. I have 60GB free space on the SSD. Of course I don't have a great deal of programs but do not see any degradation in the speed of user files or programs on the spinner. They will be at least as fast as they are right now, I think faster. You can have a quick, responsive OS drive without a large SSD if you plan right.

 

[whs]

You are about right. Now there may be programs or games that have a lot of disk traffic. But I think those are rare and far apart. Those you may chose to install on the SSD.

I own only 60GB, 80GB and 90GB SSDs. The "larger" ones for the laptops. But I have a collection of external disks that supplement - now even Sata3. Some people installed 40GB SSDs (there is a nice little Intel) on Desktops and are happy with it.

I think you will get the full SSD experience with a 60GB SSD on desktops and 90GB on laptops. No need to spend more money - unless you are a real enthusiast. But then I would go for a Revo drive: Newegg.com - OCZ RevoDrive X2 OCZSSDPX-1RVDX0100 PCI-E 100GB PCI-Express x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

 

[essenbe]

WHS, what do you think of the Crucial real SSD's? I have SATA3 in my desktop and the Crucials are the only ones that will run at SATA3 speeds right now. Sata 3 seems to make very little difference even with sata3 spinners, so why not take advantage of it if you have it.

 

[steve-pressman]

@ RealGoneKid, just having a bit of fun

@ steve-pressman, what's your 930 clocked at to get 7.7? My 950 is at 3.5gig and I got 7.6

I think it is just over 4.01gig as we say here in good old blighty "like shite off a hot shovel"

Don't always use the overclock though, mostly for converting DVD or music files otherwise I use the stock setting which is still pretty dam quick.

Regards

Steve

 

[whs]

WHS, what do you think of the Crucial real SSD's? I have SATA3 in my desktop and the Crucials are the only ones that will run at SATA3 speeds right now. Sata 3 seems to make very little difference even with sata3 spinners, so why not take advantage of it if you have it.

Yeah, The C300 is mighty fast (on paper). But you have to realize that in real life those speeds never come to bear - especially for the OS that deals a lot with 4K records. Just look at the various Atto charts in this thread and you will see.

Besides, the C300 has the Marvell Controller that might give you problems - at least some guys say so.

I think the usefulness of Sata3 is highly overstated. Looks good on paper, but the devices are unable to feed it an any speeds that come even close to the capacity or exeeds Sata2. It is an investment into the future, if you want so,

 

[sygnus21]

@ RealGoneKid, just having a bit of fun

@ steve-pressman, what's your 930 clocked at to get 7.7? My 950 is at 3.5gig and I got 7.6

I think it is just over 4.01gig as we say here in good old blighty "like shite off a hot shovel"

Don't always use the overclock though, mostly for converting DVD or music files otherwise I use the stock setting which is still pretty dam quick.

Regards

Steve

Yeah I'm only at 3.5 may go to 3.8 but that's it. 3.5 works pretty good for me though.

Thanks.

 

[Qmass55]

@ RealGoneKid, just having a bit of fun

@ steve-pressman, what's your 930 clocked at to get 7.7? My 950 is at 3.5gig and I got 7.6

I think it is just over 4.01gig as we say here in good old blighty "like shite off a hot shovel"

Don't always use the overclock though, mostly for converting DVD or music files otherwise I use the stock setting which is still pretty dam quick.

Regards

Steve

Yeah I'm only at 3.5 may go to 3.8 but that's it. 3.5 works pretty good for me though.

Thanks.

I'm running i7 930, o/c'd to 3.5 and score 7.6 too, I got 7.7 at 4.0Ghz which doesn't seem right for a 500Mhz increase? I run at 3.5 because I don't really need the extra power now. I'd love to know why my kingston 128Gb SSD always drops from a rating of 7.1 to 7.0 when I over clock???

Edit, Ps what's your vcore? I get 3.5 at about 1.17v

 

[society misfit]

I'm running i7 930, o/c'd to 3.5 and score 7.6 too, I got 7.7 at 4.0Ghz which doesn't seem right for a 500Mhz increase? I run at 3.5 because I don't really need the extra power now. I'd love to know why my kingston 128Gb SSD always drops from a rating of 7.1 to 7.0 when I over clock???

Edit, Ps what's your vcore? I get 3.5 at about 1.17v

I'm not sure how Windows determines the score. At 4.7GHz I can only score 7.8 in the CPU test. Just re-ran it at 4.8GHz and didn't achieve anything higher. I can get up to 5GHz, I'll test later to see if it makes any difference.

It also doesn't take dual video cards into effect, I would have thought that 2 Radeons 6850 would have scored higher than 7.7

http://www.sevenforums.com/overclocking-case-mods/142415-i7-2600k-5ghz.html#post1222738

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/83699-show-us-your-wei-2-a-153.html#post1217484

 

[sygnus21]

@ Qmass55 - My v-core is set to 1.23xx (have to check bios for exact number). Make sure your memory is getting the full volts required for them. See these posts....

- http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/138554-new-rig-radeon-6950-trouble-2.html#post1191297
- http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/138554-new-rig-radeon-6950-trouble-2.html#post1191432

Anyway my memory is set to 1.640volts, timings are 8-8-8-20 1T. I get 7.9 on WEI.

@ society misfit - my single 6950 scores a 7.9 in WEI. It also might have something to do with the drivers. Point: Crossfire has always been problematic so the drivers you're using might not be the best for your Crossfire setup. Just a guess. And yeah, you probably are using the latest drivers!?

Anyway I think the video card is the only item under WEI that really heavily relies on drivers - they’re the only drivers you constantly upgrade that affects WEI.

 

[Qmass55]

@ Qmass55 - My v-core is set to 1.23xx (have to check bios for exact number). Make sure your memory is getting the full volts required for it. My memory is set to 1.640volts, timings are 8-8-8-20 1T. I get 7.9 on WEI there.

@ society misfit - my single 6950 scores a 7.9 in WEI. It also might have something to do with the drivers. Point: Crossfire has always been problematic so the drivers you're using might not be the best for your Crossfire setup. Just a guess. And yeah, you probably are using the latest drivers!?

Anyway I think the video card is the only item under WEI that really heavily relies on drivers - they’re the only drivers you constantly upgrade that affects WEI.

My mem's at 9 9 9 24 using XMP, it's 1866 but I'm runing it at a target of 16xx (cant remember either), I get better stability that way at lower qpi voltage and still attain 7.9 WEI. Vcore 1.175 qpi 1.25 cpu PLL 1.82 ICH 1.2 IOH 1.18

 

[sygnus21]

Again... what is the memory's voltage set to??? That's the issue. Also XMP tends to overvolt other stuff, that's why I like to "manually" set my memory setings. Again read the posts I linked to.

I have a i7-900 series X58 system myself.

 

[society misfit]

@ sygnus21 – I saw your score, very impressive. And nice card BTW!!!


As with the graphics WEI score, my score has been the same with and without Crossfire. I’ve ran the test with 3 different drivers on 2 different machines. I can only suspect that even though WEI detects the dual cards (at least the amount of Dedicated Graphics Memory) it doesn’t fully utilize the second (or 3rd,4th) card. Perhaps someone else with multiple cards can confirm.

I have also heard by many on these forums about the problems with dual cards, be it Crossfire or SLI. And to be quite frank, I really do not know what all the fuss is about! It had to be one of the easiest upgrades I’ve ever performed. Turn machine off, remove cover, insert card into slot, connect Crossfire bridge and power then turn the machine back on. The drivers activated Crossfire the second Windows booted. I never took the time to bench the difference between single and dual cards but I can say that the performance increase is substantial!! And given what I paid for my cards ($149 each!!) it was well worth it! Perhaps the issues that others are experiencing has to do with insufficient power, or a non-certified motherboard. Or maybe even a mix match of manufactures despite both AMD and Nvidia claims that can be done as long as the GPU is the same. Maybe with the these new breed of cards, Crossfire and SLI troubles are a thing of the past!

 

[sygnus21]

As for the scores, thanks

With regards to Crossfire/SLI as you noted this, and many other forums are rife with complaints about Crossfire/SLI setups. But they're not about the physical part of the setup, you're right - it's not hard to install two cards! It's the software part of the equation - games and drivers!!! That's the major issue! A quick search around the net will bear this out.

Yes, there are hardware issues as well, but again, the majority of issues are software related. This is the major reason I won't buy into a dual card setup.

My two cents.

 

[Qmass55]

Again... what is the memory's voltage set to??? That's the issue. Also XMP tends to overvolt other stuff, that's why I like to "manually" set my memory setings. Again read the posts I linked to.

I have a i7-900 series X58 system myself.

sorry, thought i put it down, 1.64v. xmp on my mobo does change a bunch of settings at first but it allows you to change them again

 

[sygnus21]

Well looks like your RAM is running at their full vols. Can't say why your SSD drive score drops.

 

[society misfit]

As for the scores, thanks

With regards to Crossfire/SLI as you noted this, and many other forums are rife with complaints about Crossfire/SLI setups. But they're not about the physical part of the setup, you're right - it's not hard to install two cards! It's the software part of the equation - games and drivers!!! That's the major issue! A quick search around the net will bear this out.

Yes, there are hardware issues as well, but again, the majority of issues are software related. This is the major reason I won't buy into a dual card setup.

My two cents.

Good point! I guess I was focusing more on the hardware side of multiple graphics cards. But I can say first hand that I’ve yet to experience any issues playing games with my Crossfire set up. Although I can only manage 15 FPS in Freecell. (Hmmm…might have to upgrade!). I like to keep a clean running machine. Perhaps that contributes to my good fortune. Anyways, what works for you may not work for me and vice versa. How bout we toast (cheers!!) and agree to disagree!

 

[sygnus21]

How bout we toast (cheers!!) and agree to disagree!

Agreed

 

[nitroman84]

New laptop Currently 4GB ram from factory, Crucial 8GB kit ordered today. Curious to see the numbers after upgrade.

Finally got the ram in the mail. Updated score... No huge change but I'll take it.

 

[Anusha]

Got 2nd Vertex 2 drive.

Next one out is the video card. Haven't decided on what is coming in.