Snow Leopard v. Windows 7

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With Windows 7 and Snow leopard each nearing their respective release dates, the hype for the two operating systems is reaching its peak. Let’s go over what each OS is bringing to the table in terms of features, market, and performance.
I’ll start with a short description of what both operating systems mean for each company.
Windows 7: A product that’s turned a lot of heads, especially those who believed that Microsoft was dead and done after the lackluster reception that Vista received. The product has received quite a positive welcoming by the internet community with the leaked betas, and MS can only hope that attitude towards W7 remains steady through October 22nd.
OS 10.6: The refinement of an operating system that many believe is already the most advanced OS on the market. Apple is looking towards the 64-bit processing world with this release with x64 optimization being its leading feature. This OS is meant not only to add more speed and utility to the everyday user’s experience, but it also takes a big step towards using Macs in the business world with its Microsoft Exchange support. With the Mac community growing every day, Apple hopes to refine and revise its technology to allow simplicity of use more and more each day.
Now for the comparison of features.
Windows 7: A brand new taskbar that is reminiscent of the Dock present in OS X. It allows you to drag and drop programs to the taskbar so that you can launch from anywhere at anytime, without having to dig through explorer. That being said, even Explorer, the name for the Windows file catalog, has been updated for search speeds. The indexed-searches are much faster than those indexed in Windows Vista, allowing for a more convenient and easy to use Explorer. Along with these two features, W7 also receives enhanced performance with multi-core processors, advanced touch/handwriting recognition, a new version of Windows Media Center, support for virtual HDDs and more.
OS 10.6: Almost all programs have been rewritten to include full 64-bit optimization, providing a more streamlined experience throughout the entire operating system. Grand Central Dispatch is a new technology in 10.6 that follows suit with the “theme” of 64-bit improvement. This is what allocates the tasks across the multiple cores as well as what allows programmers to finally optimize their Mac programs for the 64-bit computer. Another new technology, OpenCL, allows developers to open up the use of the graphics card to much more than just Photoshop and Aperture. It strengthens the current use of the card and also makes way for more many more usages down the road. Along with these features also come Quicktime X (an enhnanced, streamlined Quicktime client), a more speedy Finder, new looks for Exposé and Stacks, faster backup/bootup time and more.
Both operating systems show a movement towards each others target market. Windows 7 features more user-centric capabilities that allow the operating system to be more customizable (the ability to disable multiple features is a great example of this) than any other Windows release to date. I see W7 as what Vista could and should have been – I believe it’s finally a legitimate successor to Windows XP. OS 10.6 seems to be just what Apple needs to reach out to businesses, which is a great move. Snow Leopard should keep the Mac market growing, as its new technology will allow more gaming capabilities through OpenCL and hopefully garner more third-party developers for the growing Macintosh userbase.
Apple’s looking towards the future and Microsoft’s fixing its past. Both operating systems appear to be on an even playing field, and I for one am anxious to see how both of these milestone releases are received

http://windows7news.com/2009/06/22/windows-7-and-os-x-comparison/

After reading that...
Windows 7 is still better!
 

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I call it the craptop.
Just to clear things up, OS X Snow Leopard 'can' work on a 32-bit Intel Processor and 'can' use 32-bit kext's, yes?
 

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I don't know. Apple is just focused on the money.
 

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I call it the craptop.
Good read. Makes me even more excited for Windows 7 to be completed! OS X has underwhelmed me each time I've used it.
 

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To each his own :) Use what works. I know enough about Windows therefore I am sticking with it. I may give OS X a shot when they dont have that stupid requirement of running on Mac only hardware ( and yes I know there are ways to circumvent that silly requirement but I could not be bothered )
 

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To each his own :) Use what works. I know enough about Windows therefore I am sticking with it. I may give OS X a shot when they dont have that stupid requirement of running on Mac only hardware ( and yes I know there are ways to circumvent that silly requirement but I could not be bothered )

If you have the right parts that are compatible (and intel CPU), one product: EFI-X.

That is all. =P
 

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What's EFI-X?
 

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I call it the craptop.
You can install OSx86 without that stupidly expensive EFI-X dongle. There are a number of hacked installers on the internet that will work on most computers if you can find your hardware kexts (equivalent to windows drivers).

I'm looking forward to both Snow Leopard more than 7 to be perfectly honest. I think MS isn't fixing a lot of core problems with their platform and 7 is a warmed-over Vista. I didn't mind Vista, but Apple ever since the intel transition is gaining a leg up. Snow Leopard is fixing the few little niggles I have (Put Back from Trash took them this long! And driving down folders in stacks is a no brainer) and I've found better alternatives to all my software on the OS X platform.

7 is now relegated to being booted up every few months for a video game or two, though I don't find it nearly as bad as Windows once was.
 

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I had OS X on this craptop, but they never made functional drivers for the WiFi...
 

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I call it the craptop.
What's EFI-X?

To answer your first question, EFI-X is a USB dongle that connects to your motherboard on a desktop computer only. You set your BIOS to boot from USB Device and it will boot from the EFI-X which will trick your motherboard into thinking it has a EFI BIOS which is required to boot the retail copy of OS X.

Currently you require a desktop/Intel CPU for this device, they are working on a version for AMD and laptops.

If you want anymore info on this you can PM me about it as I'd rather not clog the thread with advertisements. =P

I had OS X on this craptop, but they never made functional drivers for the WiFi...

I used iDeneb OS X 10.5.7 on this laptop, everything works fine aside from the graphics which only work at 1024x768 (native is 1280x800).
 

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You can't compare animals and numbers
 

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I don't really think that all this comparisons will change a thing. Personally, I like what has everything I need and just gives me a smooth and nice feel. To me that's windows. I find Windows elegant but when I hear people saying Windows UI is boring, I get shocked.

So, in the end, it is your own decision. Even if a million people said Windows ain't good and no one says OS X sucks, I still will stick to Windows cause it gives me that nice feeling. The same goes to those who like OS X.

Another good thing about both OS on a level playing field is that neither of them can slacken. They both have to start working equally hard and we consumers obviously benefit from that. That means neither can slacken or afford to lose out.

One thing I like about Microsoft is it's never give up attitude. It has failed in it's Operating System, Security Products, Web Browsers and Web Search in the past. But it never gave up. And now it has made a legendary comeback. It's web browser even though not excellent yet, finally met with standards. Bing, MSE and Windows 7 have all got excellent reviews and finally, Microsoft has shown us why it is regarded as one of the best in the software industries.
You can't compare animals and numbers

Lol! :) Want to see me compare them?
 
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WTF would you care about OS X, it is stale, supports little to nothing in terms of standard software, has NO GAMING capabilities, and it is just gay. Get off your apple bandwagon. Better OS...HARDLY, it is just as vulnerable as MS. The only difference is the user. Apple is crippled and won't allow stupid people do stupid things...but they are still there in Apple, just hidden!!!!!!!!! I work on both, trust me, W7 is more usable...unless all you do is surf on safari, draw pictures, and play with Garage Band. Seriously, how is that so awesome...on windows you can do whatever you can think of.
 

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WTF would you care about OS X, it is stale, supports little to nothing in terms of standard software, has NO GAMING capabilities, and it is just gay. Get off your apple bandwagon. Better OS...HARDLY, it is just as vulnerable as MS. The only difference is the user. Apple is crippled and won't allow stupid people do stupid things...but they are still there in Apple, just hidden!!!!!!!!! I work on both, trust me, W7 is more usable...unless all you do is surf on safari, draw pictures, and play with Garage Band. Seriously, how is that so awesome...on windows you can do whatever you can think of.

On Linux you can do whatever you want? whats your point exactly? Everyone has their needs and OS X apparently meets the needs of quite a few people.
 

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WTF would you care about OS X, it is stale, supports little to nothing in terms of standard software, has NO GAMING capabilities, and it is just gay. Get off your apple bandwagon. Better OS...HARDLY, it is just as vulnerable as MS. The only difference is the user. Apple is crippled and won't allow stupid people do stupid things...but they are still there in Apple, just hidden!!!!!!!!! I work on both, trust me, W7 is more usable...unless all you do is surf on safari, draw pictures, and play with Garage Band. Seriously, how is that so awesome...on windows you can do whatever you can think of.

I'm not sure what it is people always claims is locked away from users. OS X is UNIX certified and you can dive in however much you want to. In fact, OS X include all the powerful *NIX commands, and you can do pretty amazing things by just tying together some scripts. Most people don't care about games. At least not enough to influence OS choice. People have jobs and families and responsibilities that take up precious time, and are willing to pay a company to not be a giant screwup like most PC OEMs so they can spend less of their time fiddling with an appliance (because that's all a computer is).

I personally know several researchers and scientists from top universities who use the Mac platform exclusively for their research purposes. My university's CS department is pretty huge on OS X. And none of my software is exclusive to the windows platform. The amazing thing about Apple is how they can take an immensely powerful platform and keep it out of your way until you need it.
 

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I know we're going OT here, but I tried the iDeneb thing (and another which I've forhotten) to get OSX dual-booting on my PC. It just messed up my system completely by corrupting boot sectors etc. so I had to completely remove the drive it was on and re-install Windows to get my system back.
Also, can you get graphic drivers that give all resolutions? (I'm on 1900x1200)
I appreciate that some people get this working OK. Is there a fool-proof guide to getting this to work somewhere?
 

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I know we're going OT here, but I tried the iDeneb thing (and another which I've forhotten) to get OSX dual-booting on my PC. It just messed up my system completely by corrupting boot sectors etc. so I had to completely remove the drive it was on and re-install Windows to get my system back.
Also, can you get graphic drivers that give all resolutions? (I'm on 1900x1200)
I appreciate that some people get this working OK. Is there a fool-proof guide to getting this to work somewhere?

If you want help with things related to hackintosh's PM me then please, also you should check Insanelymac's HCL to see if your hardware is compatible with OS X or not.

HCL 10.5.6 - OSx86
 

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Nice read. But I have to say... OS X Has always failed in Comparison to Windows 7. Heck, Even Vista.

I've used OSx86 on this Machine and gotten it running fine. It's a Amazingly simple OS in the surface, But underneath, There's no Substance.

Even though you hear people say Macs are better for IMage and Video editing, I have to say, Photoshop is better on Windows. Heck, CS4 is not even available in 64-bit on Mac.
And Movie Maker 6 pwns iMovie. (If you want me to help you get WMM6 on 7, PM me)

Windows 7 and Snow leopard are both just Improving on the Prior release, But Microsoft has done way more Improving than Apple. (and Vista was already Better than Leopard IMO)

I say all that even though I like OS X, I wish Apple would make it useful, But Windows just pwns it so much...
 

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What do you mean there's no substance? I can't think of anything that one can do that the other can't. Windows enjoys better app support, Macs enjoy a cleaner UI, UNIX core, great bundled software and the benefits of having a single company optimize the OS and hardware. Choose whatever is the most important to you.

I just really don't see how anybody claims OS X is some stripped down OS. Apple has been working on the Mac longer than MS has.

For anybody curious, Ars Technica did a good article on how the Windows vs Mac paradigm of apps vs windows has shaped their UI differences, and how Windows has traditionally been stuck with a mess of different model of document management: Paradigms lost: The Windows 7 Taskbar versus the OS X Dock - Ars Technica

Though, with Snow Leopard's dock expose, the dock fixes some of the problems Ars raises with it (namely, the inability to handle 30-40 documents very well in pre-snow leopard expose).
 

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Honestly the only reason I install OS X/Linux is to have something different to tinker with, Linux and OS X are not something I'd use as my Main OS ever.
 

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