So, whats happened to the GTX 470/480

PC Perspective - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 Review - GF100 and Fermi tackle gaming

A very well written, balanced review. I particularly liked this line near the end that shows the value of competition in the market.


One more thought worth considering. Do you remember the initial price of the GTX 280 graphics card, the first GT200 offering? $649. That was in a time when NVIDIA was unconstrained by pricing as they were the performance leader and dominated in the market. Now, thanks to AMD and the pressure they have been placing on NVIDIA with the Radeon HD 5000-series of cards, NVIDIA was forced to release this generation at a much lower price when we ARE 100% SURE the cost of making them has not gone down. Even NVIDIA fans need to be happy that AMD is around it would seem.
 

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If your looking for 5870 performance with a cheaper initial price tag, the 470 is for you, though in the long run the 100W difference in power consumption will cost you approximately an additional 35$ per year though. Plus the heat issue may be a large factor with those who don't have high airflow cases.
 

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After reading the reviews tonight, the GTX 480 is really disappointing from my perspective. Since I have a GTX 295 Co-Op card, there's no point in considering this for an upgrade. In fact, in many tests my 295 beat the 480. If NVIDIA wants enthusiasts to upgrade to their latest, then they better do something much more impressive than this. :(

And the 5970 is faster than my 295, but my 295 can beats or match it with some games.

It looks like I'll have to either wait for the dual-GPU version of the 400 series or wait for ATI's next generation before upgrading. But that is a good thing since I get more life out of my 295. :)

So for us with a 285, 295, 5870, or 5970, the GTX 480 isn't worth it from the posted benchmarks at various hardware sites (unless you play only DX11 games, which are few and far in-between). I wonder what the card could do with 512 cores instead of the 480 cores with 32 disabled? Probably a little better at least. It's a shame they have such a poor design to get reliable fab for the Fermi.

I'm not a loyal fan of either, as I go with whatever has the best product in my opinion at the time (had both ATI and NVIDIA cards in the past). ATI is still looking like the current champ with the 5970 (though that card is long and expensive, and runs hotter than my 295 Co-Op card).
 

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hm... not bad on the benches i've seen....still way behind the 5970 though.... it is ahead of the 5870 in most games.... even if it did take them six+ extra months :party: hm.... lets see now just to wait for the new ati card :D
 

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PizzaMan, don't compare a single GPU card to a card that has two GPUs. The GeForce GTX480 IS the fastest mono GPU card. Not by a big margin, but it is. The card has early problems such has overheating and noisy but I'm pretty sure that nVidia partners will be able to make a decent card without being too noisy and overheating.

Anyway, the day that this GPU will be on a double GPU card, it'll kick the Radeon 5970's posterior.
 

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I wouldn't say it's "way behind", there's a few benchmarks where the GTX480 can keep up with the 5970, but yea, I'd still expect the 5970 to out perform the GTX480.

What we have isn't what we were promised a year ago, it's not a 512 core monster, and the performance that were were promised isn't at 50% like it was suppost to be, but there's still an impressive card there. The GF100 core does have a lot of potential, and just in the GTX480, it's nowhere being used to what it's fully capable of. Now The high end cards are out, the low end versions will be out around summer, and whatever dual GPU variant will be put out, but Nvidia can also go back and re-work the GF100 core now to bring out whatever improvements can be done to it.
 

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Anyway, the day that this GPU will be on a double GPU card, it'll kick the Radeon 5970's posterior.


I don't know about the ability for them to make a dual GPU variant of this. As it is it's using a 6x8 connection for one GPU, with two I'd expect an 8x8x8 to power it, no one would have a power supply powerful enough to use it!

On the PCPer article I linked to, they were able to run two 480's in SLI, the total power draw was near 800W!

As it is, running a system with that kind of power draw would cost $200 a year in power, with conservative estimates!
 

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I don't know about the ability for them to make a dual GPU variant of this.

Between the power draw and heat issues, I wouldn't expect a '495' anytime soon.

When they do release a dual GPU card, I'd expect it to be based on 2 of the lower specced cards, similar to the frankenbuild of the 295, or the 5970.
 

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Anyway, the day that this GPU will be on a double GPU card, it'll kick the Radeon 5970's posterior.


I don't know about the ability for them to make a dual GPU variant of this. As it is it's using a 6x8 connection for one GPU, with two I'd expect an 8x8x8 to power it, no one would have a power supply powerful enough to use it!

On the PCPer article I linked to, they were able to run two 480's in SLI, the total power draw was near 800W!

As it is, running a system with that kind of power draw would cost $200 a year in power, with conservative estimates!

That's why I said "the day that". I know that this baby needs a s*load of power and heats a lot. I know that it's not possible. because of that ;)

800W for a SLI, this is crazy indeed.
 

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800W for a SLI, this is crazy indeed.

Never mind SLI, don't forget you're going to need to of them if you want to run Nvidia's equivalent of Eyefinity.
 

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800W for a SLI, this is crazy indeed.

Never mind SLI, don't forget you're going to need two of them if you want to run Nvidia's equivalent of Eyefinity.

I know what is Eyefinity but... there is only a minority of people who will have 3 or more monitors y'know. So, for most people, one single card will be enough.
 

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It does seem to scale very well in terms of SLI.

I guess they didn't test much with it incase they melted lol.
 

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The one thing that I find scary about these cards is that in almost ever review they managed to get the cards up into the mid 90's, and seen mentioned the card is OK up to 105°C 9 I can remember an old AGP 6600 GT I had that would run that high due to the bridge chip, but its threshold was 120°C), won't take much in the way of dust or summer heat to start pushing them close to the threshold.

Guess for those that are looking at getting one, I can see lots of cleaning and AC for the computer room.

I guess they didn't test much with it incase they melted lol.

Well you could cook your bacon on one, and use the other two as a waffle iron. :p
 

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The GTX 480 Waffle Iron, I think you've found the perfect addition to every gamers pad!
 

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Anyway, the day that this GPU will be on a double GPU card, it'll kick the Radeon 5970's posterior.


I don't know about the ability for them to make a dual GPU variant of this. As it is it's using a 6x8 connection for one GPU, with two I'd expect an 8x8x8 to power it, no one would have a power supply powerful enough to use it!

On the PCPer article I linked to, they were able to run two 480's in SLI, the total power draw was near 800W!

As it is, running a system with that kind of power draw would cost $200 a year in power, with conservative estimates!

Yeh but Nvidia like to avoid mentioning "the power and heat thang" as long as their cards run (just) faster than an equivalent ATi chipped card which runs on far less power.

Says one Nvidia card plugged in - needs minimum decent 600W Power supply!
 

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