The Last Days of Windows 7

[Dave76]

You conveniently omitted ... ME.

So you're trying to say "Don't forget about ME"
:roflmao:

Actually, I left several out, just checking if anyone has .... ah.... been counting.

I did use ME and didn't have any problems with it, well no more problems than usual for windows in them days, nothing too serious.

 

[panais]

Any news for windows 7 sp2?

 

[Maguscreed]

I'm considering going Linux. Windows is making me feel dumb.

I'm sorry man, but that has to be one of the most backwards things I have ever seen.

...and I'm from the internet.

What is backwards about going Linux ? It's more complex but quite powerful. The difference is the user base for linux is less then 5% compared to Windows and OSX. Learning Linux is complex, but can be powerful to have.

Basically if windows is making you feel dumb linux is going to make you feel down right retarded.
The reason for linux's tiny user base is simply because it's not so awesome as a home use operating system. It's arguably the best server os ever created. After spending nearly 3 months trying to create a stable wireless connection using multiple linux releases I pretty much just gave up myself. ...and believe me it wasn't for lack of trying.
The answer you get from the linux community and it's users is always the same though.
'you're using the wrong distro'
'you didn't follow instructions'
'it must be you because linux is perfect'

....no thanks the mac community is pretty much the same as well I wind up with windows for two honest reasons.
1 - I like to play games on my computer occasionally.
2 - the community is actually reasonable and can be worked with.

I'll wish you luck diving into linux just don't expect an enormous amount of support from the community if you ever run into a problem. A solid understanding of linux takes years to develop.

 

[Ravi5kumar]

I want my desktop back!!

I don't want any tablet shit OS. I will stick with my beautiful Windows 7 and my dual booted Ubuntu 11.10. Seriously Xp and 7 are the best and most lovable products of Microsoft. If they implement the Metro UI on windows 8 then it will go down as what VISTA did!!!

 

[MilesAhead]

I'm considering going Linux. Windows is making me feel dumb.

I'm sorry man, but that has to be one of the most backwards things I have ever seen.

...and I'm from the internet.

What is backwards about going Linux ? It's more complex but quite powerful. The difference is the user base for linux is less then 5% compared to Windows and OSX. Learning Linux is complex, but can be powerful to have.

There was a saying, "Use another distro, you learn that distro. Use Slackware, you learn Linux. For those who enjoy absorbing learning curve, you can find it here:

Slackware

Of course even with Slackware I suspect the good old days of having to download the X libraries and configure them yourself are gone. I bet it comes up to a window manager after installation. Still, it's probably the distro closest to the metal.

I did Slackware through release 3.0(the first good solid 2.x kernels. Never ever had a hardware lockup running Slackware 3.0) but that was enough for me. Went to Mandrake(now Mandriva) and did stuff the easy way.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Linux ...

...
The reason for linux's tiny user base is simply because it's not so awesome as a home use operating system. It's arguably the best server os ever created. After spending nearly 3 months trying to create a stable wireless connection using multiple linux releases I pretty much just gave up myself. ...and believe me it wasn't for lack of trying.
The answer you get from the linux community and it's users is always the same though.
'you're using the wrong distro'
'you didn't follow instructions'
'it must be you because linux is perfect'

Have you seen this video?

Mea culpa: coming clean about my n00b Linux mistakes
Mea culpa: coming clean about my n00b Linux mistakes | ZDNet
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It's the first video in that article.

 

[Maguscreed]

lol linux is free and full of love, I would give you rep for that if I could...

 

[lehnerus2000]

It's funny, because it's true

lol linux is free and full of love, I would give you rep for that if I could...

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Homer said it best, "It's funny 'cause it's true."
It's funny 'cause it's true - YouTube

 

[MilesAhead]

...
The reason for linux's tiny user base is simply because it's not so awesome as a home use operating system. It's arguably the best server os ever created. After spending nearly 3 months trying to create a stable wireless connection using multiple linux releases I pretty much just gave up myself.
...

I disagree. I never messed around with wireless on Windows, Linux, VMS, Dos or any other OS. For me the frustrating part was the text editors. If you come from Dos/Windows it's just never comfortable using unix type editors. Only if I was subjected to forced total immersion would I get acclimated. Once I got to Mandrake 9.1 programs installed easily. Use apt-get and run the install. Stuff worked.. unlike RedHat 6 and earlier.

Just too frustrating having to think about the editing process rather than about what I wanted to type. All those AbiWord and all the rest, no matter the key bindings, just don't have a Dos/Windows editor feel.

It's a shame kylix never went anywhere because the editor in that IDE was the only place I could forget about how I was entering code and just think about the code I was writing.

Most of the hassle was getting stuff to interact with Windows. Learn how to do Samba just so you can get files off a Windows partition etc..

Once Mandrake 9.1 was out, the regular meat and potatoes was automatic. Boot up, the network card is running with your broadband. Select packages you want, they download and set up. When you reboot you come up to a Window Manager, click the browser it goes on the web. So you might have to enter some server and password info to get your email going. That's about it.

It's not running programs. That's all point and double-click. It's entering text that's the bitch. Stuff like Emacs I had to keep reading the help on how to use the help as the key bindings are totally unnatural. X-Emacs was a little better as you could fall back on the menus, but still you had to think about it.

 

[Maguscreed]

if anyone was wondering this is the video we were referencing above.

 

[Ravi5kumar]

I only use windows for games, otherwise I am fully dependent on my lovable linux distribution ubuntu 11.10 for my works. In our home we use linux as our primary operating system.

 

[lehnerus2000]

The video is funny by itself, but it makes more sense if you read the guy's 2 articles, about what happened to him.

I don't like Unity (Ubuntu 11.10) or Metro (Windows 8).

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to use Windows 8 with Metro, because of the job I want to do (after I have upgraded my qualifications).
At least after the Registry hack it is basically W7.

 

[cluberti]

It'll be interesting to see if this hack lives beyond the DP build and into the betas - there are rumors it will be killed before Win8 releases, although there are also rumors that making the desktop the starting point will also be possible (disabling UAC also seems to disable metro). I'm curious indeed as to what will happen.

 

[fseal]

Ok, there is NO WAY that buisness will put up with the metro UI. Microsoft has to know that. Therefore there is NO WAY that you will not be able to choose between the UIs. Even if at worst case "Home" and below ("Home", "Tablet", "Starter" etc) get metro and "Professional" and above get the standard desktop...

 

[Maguscreed]

If they listen to the users at all they will leave the normal desktop option.
Otherwise they are going to kill a massive amount of potential sales.

 

[Barman58]

The current available build is for developers who are working on the Metro Interface which means that the Desktop interface is very underdeveloped, at this stage, the UI is normally one of the last items to be included in a Beta Build program. Apart from one or two new style system apps it is still basically Windows 7.

As we get closer to the official Beta I'm certain that the Desktop UI will be selectable and further developed. As the interface will be designed for multitouch, the iconisation will be a part of the desktop UI, as it is with win7, (the reason for the loose spacing on the taskbar is to allow for touch access).

I am holding off judgement on the OS until at least the official BETA

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Aw, Maguscreed, you're not a failure. *hugs*





Sorry, just kidding - I couldn't resist.

Hey wheres the hugs fro the rest of us thats discrimination you know! :roflmao:

 

[msdos622wasfun]

What I'm wondering is if the release of Windows 8 is going to make me think I need a tablet. I look at the iPad now, and I guess I think it's cool, but then I think, gee, isn't that what I have a laptop for? And my laptop kind of does more, doesn't it? Maybe by then I will finally start to see the light and the usefulness of that form factor, and ways I could integrate it into my life, but right now, I'm not sure that I do.

 

[Maguscreed]

I just don't want anything I can't directly connect to my external media devices.
That's my basic reason for not jumping on the tablet bandwagon.

 

[jeepmann4x4]

If Win 8 is another Vista - we'll be keeping Win 7

...it just works; if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

I agree. This very well may turn out to be the new Vista. I'll wait and see what happens.

I ran it a while ago in v-box I didnt care for it then but I'll check it out every so often to see what has changed,got fixed..ect. We wont really know if we like it till it comes out, and we put it on the right platform.