"Threshold" to be Called Windows 9, Ship in April 2015

[whs]

These were your typical Vista bashers.

 

[Layback Bear]

I never used Vista. I understand it was the basic format for Windows 7.
Windows 7 was just a big SP-2 Update for Vista and then renamed.
Just my thoughts for a non-Vista user.

 

[michaelst]

I wonder if they will able to do the same commecial for Windows 8?

 

[whs]

I wonder if they will able to do the same commecial for Windows 8?

It was not really a 'commercial' - it was was an attempt to put egg on people's faces.

But I am sure they could do something similar for 8.1 - whether it helps remains to be seen.

 

[MilesAhead]

I never used Vista. I understand it was the basic format for Windows 7.
Windows 7 was just a big SP-2 Update for Vista and then renamed.
Just my thoughts for a non-Vista user.

There may be something to the theory they released Vista before it was ready, like a sacrificial lamb. The idea being that any Windows release would be compared to XP. By injecting the dead dog Vista, in the interregnum, Windows 7 would be compared to Vista. Tough to lose because W7 is Vista only fixed with some eye candy and window placement gimmicks added. In fact it almost seemed like Vista Pre SP1 was deliberately detuned with slow file copy to boot.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I had hope for Win 9 until I saw who was selected to replace Ballsmore.

 

[whs]

There may be something to the theory they released Vista before it was ready, like a sacrificial lamb

Nah, I don't think so. They just did a bad job controlling the device manufacturers drivers - because the drivers were 80% of the problems. And they also did not advise the OEMs to ship systems with at least 2GB of RAM - or the OEMs ignored that. Many devices did not even have Vista drivers - like a router I bought. I spent 3 hours on the phone to get that going. But that was not the problem of Vista.

I have seen OPs coming on forums with Vista Ultimate on 512MB machines. No wonder those systems were crawling. The wife came home one day with a 1GB laptop. First thing I did is upgrade it to 2GB which was the maximum the board allowed.

 

[ThrashZone]

These were your typical Vista bashers.

I wasn't there

 

[Jonguy30]

Is it just me or are windows releases becoming more frequent?

It is just you.

Yeah, about my earlier comment. Maybe I'm getting old, but I'm still only 18. I only thought about the xp to vista release, didn't look at the older releases. And time does go faster when one gets older. It's like Windows 8 and 8.1 just was released and now Windows 9 is announced. I also remember the time vista was released, people were not happy, lol.

 

[LMiller7]

Note that in my previous post I mentioned "major" releases, which by all normal standards Windows 8.1 was not. Microsoft has not announced a date for the release of Windows 9. April 2015 (which is more than a year away) is only a guess which may be wide of the mark.

When you look at the big picture the big gap between XP and Vista was highly unusual and outside the general pattern.

 

[Dallas 7]

They need to release two versions.
Windows 9 Desktop and Windows 9 Touch
Until this happens, anything else will be crap.

It can even be one version with a choice of UI. But expecting one UI to work well with both desktop and touch is unrealistic.

I agree completely. I'm prepared to hold onto W7 as long as I can till they come out with a good OS. I hope it'll be W9.
It's going to have to go a ways to beat W7 though.

 

[Iforgot]

I don't see a reason up upgrade (or go for a later o/s) unless there's a feature or specific reason to do do so.

NT built in VB > XP > built in DotNet (notyet)

Vista > all processors started by default (or nearly all)
Win7 > streamlined (worked out how to started the processors as needed)
Win8 > really cut back (more interested in pay per use)
Win8.1 > don't care win8.2 > still don't care.

Look at the kernel versions between all these...
Besides the pretty(or not so) graphics.

 

[sixwheeler2011]

hear we go again another operating system that wilkl be a big flop just like Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, not interested in either

I wonder how many said that when Microsoft announced Windows 7?

Win 8 & 8.1 were not flops, their problem was in the marketing, and start screen. other wise great OS.

 

[sixwheeler2011]

hear we go again another operating system that wilkl be a big flop just like Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, not interested in either

I wonder how many said that when Microsoft announced Windows 7?

And not only Windows 7.

12 years later it is often forgotten that when XP was introduced it was far from being an overwhelming success. It was in fact much criticized by industry "experts", some of whom no doubt expected it to be a flop. See this article by Ed Bott for more:
Remembering Windows XP's early days | ZDNet

Yes wait for OS's to take hold before "Flop" is a statement case in point here.

 

[LMiller7]

Over the years there have been many predictions of which operating systems will succeed and which ones will fail. I care little for these predictions because I have lived long enough to see many expert predictions that have been very wrong. Pick any of the most successful operating systems and there were experts who predicted it would be a flop. Only time will tell. Until then it is all just guesses.

 

[whs]

I have been around operating systems since their birth in the early 60's. In fact I wrote part of one of the very first OS in 64 - IBM /360 BPS.

When I use this Kinder-UI of 8.1 on my desktop it feels like walking around in one of my wife's skirts in Scotland. It does the job but it sure feels funny.

If I want a tablet UI, I use my Nexus. At least Android can do the job in 256MB of RAM and the UI feels natural for that device. Try to use that on your desktop - it's a mess. I run Andoid x86 in VMware Player. It is no fun.

 

[whs]

Over the years there have been many predictions of which operating systems will succeed and which ones will fail. I care little for these predictions because I have lived long enough to see many expert predictions that have been very wrong. Pick any of the most successful operating systems and there were experts who predicted it would be a flop. Only time will tell. Until then it is all just guesses.

Well, time is telling. It has been 18 months since RTM of 8.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

hear we go again another operating system that wilkl be a big flop just like Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, not interested in either

I wonder how many said that when Microsoft announced Windows 7?

Win 8 & 8.1 were not flops, their problem was in the marketing, and start screen. other wise great OS.

:roflmao: Sales say something else, even if you don't adjust for all machines that were sold, then had Win 8-8.1 replaced with Win 7 or the machines with Win 8-8.1 that were returned. It doesn't matter how great you may feel something may be; if it doesn't sell, it's a flop.

 

[aritra2116]

Ballmer has been replaced by a guy called Satya Nadella. Hope he does something better.

 

[Dallas 7]

I wonder how many said that when Microsoft announced Windows 7?

Win 8 & 8.1 were not flops, their problem was in the marketing, and start screen. other wise great OS.

:roflmao: Sales say something else, even if you don't adjust for all machines that were sold, then had Win 8-8.1 replaced with Win 7 or the machines with Win 8-8.1 that were returned. It doesn't matter how great you may feel something may be; if it doesn't sell, it's a flop.

I agree. It was designed and optimized for tablets, so it might be great for tablets, but not for desktops. W7 is great for desktops because that's what it was designed for.