Transferring Windows to a new Hard Drive

[severedsolo]

Buying a new hard drive next week, and obviously i dont want to wipe out my windows, so whats the best way to transfer it?

Clean Install then restore from system image?
or just transfer the system image straight over?

 

[Product FRED]

Use Norton/Symantec Ghost or Acronis TrueImage or a freeware alternativ to clone the harddrive.

 

[severedsolo]

thanks for the suggestion, but the hard drive is already cloned, thats what the system image is for, im just wondering whether it will accept a system image on a blank hard drive or whether windows needs to be installed first

 

[Product FRED]

Reading around, I saw that what you should do is go into System Restore with your 7 Installation disc and choose the image as the source. I've never done this personally but it makes sense. If I'm
wrong, let me know and I'll look around for you.

 

[severedsolo]

thanks PRODUCTfred i will see what happens, its not a big deal really but if i understand you right there is no reason for it not to take on a blank hard drive right? cheers +rep

 

[gregrocker]

Win7 Backup Imaging will reimage a new HD in most cases. You may need to initialize the HD when it is first plugged in.

Boot your Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD, select Recover Using a System Image, attempt to
apply image to new HD (plugged alone).

If this fails, plug both HD's and use cloning software to clone old HD to new one.

 

[severedsolo]

thanks gregrocker just what i needed, will it automatically partition it into system reserved and windows? or will i need to do that myself?

 

[jonemy]

I did mine using clonezilla (Clonezilla) - fast and free, will work over ethernet too. I've used Partition Master (another free tool that works quickly) on XP to resize the partition after cloning, they claim to work on Windows 7 as well.

 

[gregrocker]

You don't need to partition or format, just apply saved image to unformatted HD

 

[severedsolo]

sorry i know this is a very old thread now, but the new HDD is finally arriving tomorrow, and i cant find my damn windows disk.... but i have it backed up onto a recovery partition on the old hard drive.

if i plug old HDD into SATA port 1, and new unformatted HDD into SATA port 0, will Windows still boot? or will it look for the MBR on Disk0? im thinking this is probably the easiest way to get the system image onto the new HDD then i can pull the old HDD, i just need the windows boot manager from the old HDD so i can boot the recovery partition

 

[gregrocker]

I don't know what kind of Recovery partition you have on the old HDD, but if it is factory recovery it will likely not reimage to your new HDD.

What I would do instead is boot the old HDD, type Backup in Start Search box, then save a Win7 system image of both Win7 and 100mb Sys Reserved (which will be included anyway) to an external HDD or a primary partition you make.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html

When the image is finished saving, it will offer to make a Repair CD for you to use to boot to reimage the new HDD from the saved image.

The other option as mentioned in thread is to use cloning software included with most HDD purchases (at Support Downloads webpage for your model HDD), boot its CD to image the entire old HDD onto the new one.

 

[severedsolo]

thanks greg, its actually a decompressed home made recovery partition using the files straight from the Retail disk and booted from the BCD with EasyBCD's WinPE option, it acts just like the original DVD had been stuck in the drive.
I was trying to avoid burning a DVD if possible as that means a trip into town tomorrow just to buy some... but i guess it can't be helped, thanks for the help, i think the easiest way is as you said, make a recovery disk and do it like that, i was just trying to find a way around it. Never mind, thanks again!

edit: never mind! i found the disk for the Enterprise Trial! that will boot into WinRE right? will it still image a 64 bit OS image even tho the trial is 32 bit?

 

[gregrocker]

Hmm this is a tricky one. You have the install DVD bootable on your old HDD, while needing to boot it to recover using an image you haven' t yet made of that old HDD?

I find the home made Recov partiiton to be fascinating and would like to know exactly how you made it. I would say if you have confidence in it to attempt to boot it to use its Recovery console to Reimage the new HDD.

However, I know that when the 100mb Sys Reserved partition puts the Repair console available on Advanced Boot Tools by tapping F8 at Startup, I have been unable to get the "Recover Using a System Image" function to work without it prompting me to reboot using the Repair CD/DVD. You would think that it could load the imaging utility from HD into memory, but apparently it cannot, at least when I tried it the error said specifically it could not reimage from the HD but needed the DVD/CD.

You can try it if you want. If you need to mark your Recov partition Active to boot it, then you can always mark Win7 active if you need to get back into it, but you'll need a partition manager or your DVD/Repair CD or partition for that, too.

 

[severedsolo]

well i made the recovery partition as shown in this tutorial i made: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/58455-recovery-partition-create.html

the problem, as i see it, is if i have the old HDD plugged in at the same time, then the new install will put all of its boot files on the 100MB system reserved partition that already exists, and needs to exist to boot the recovery partition, when the old drive is pulled, windows will lose its boot files because it wont be able to find them on the 100MB partition (does that make sense?) if i simply try to restore the image without installing windows first using this method, then won't it just reimage the windows install that already exists?

as far as reimaging goes, on the 2 occasions i have needed to reimage (and yes i have an image, its just the problem outlined above which is a head scratcher) i have booted into the recovery partition from the dual boot menu, and just clicked "repair my computer" that seems to have done the job as its looking for the imaging utility on the recovery partition (which is of course just a clone of the DVD)

dont know if you saw the edit in my last post... will a 32 bit Disk (i have the windows 7 enterprise trial i burnt ages ago) reimage a 64 bit OS?

if neccessary, i suppose i could wipe windows from the old drive, install the enterprise trial on the new drive and then use easyBCD to boot the recovery partition like that, and then do a fresh install followed by a reimage

 

[gregrocker]

I have been looking for the Recov Partition tutorial so am glad to find it. Thanks.

I am confused by your repeated reference to doing "a fresh install followed by a reimage." There is no reason to do a fresh install if you are going to reimage. You should reimage to unallocated space anyway. You have the stored image and a bootable DVD Recov partition so you have what is needed to reimage from your old HD to the new one.

To answer your question, if the boot files are somehow placed on wrong HD's active partition or not reimaged correctly, then it is easy enough to fix by marking Win7 or Sys Reserved active on new HDD, unplug old HD, boot the Repair CD or Win7 DVD Repair console, click through to recovery tools list to run Startup Repair repeatedly to write the MBR to new Win7.

But if you have the image file stored and can make the Recov partition reimage to the new HDD, then you're good without having to do that. Otherwise make a Repair CD if you don't have a Win7 DVD.

I don't think you can install or repair anything 64 bit with a 32 bit disk, but i could be wrong.

 

[severedsolo]

right... i think i have this sorted now.... plan of action will be as follows:

New HDD on Sata port 0 and Old one one SATA port 1
1. boot from windows 7 enterprise trial disk
2. use the WinRE to format and delete the old system reserved partition and C drive
3. Install Windows 7 Enterprise Trial to get a working OS
4. Make a new recovery partition on new HDD by transferring contents of the old one and using Easy to add it to the boot menu
5. Unplug old HDD to avoid MBR conflicts
6. Use Recovery Partition to reinstall the 64 bit Windows
7. Reimage HDD once 64 bit windows is installed
Sound good?
thanks for all your help on this greg i really appreciate it

 

[gregrocker]

If you have a stored Win7 System image, then I am unclear why you can't just boot the DVD or Repair CD and reimage it directly to the new HD?

Are you lacking a 64 bit DVD/Repair CD?

 

[severedsolo]

in a word yes. its here somewhere, but i can't find it, and to be honest, i really cannot be bothered to spend an hour going into town during tourist season to buy some more blank DVD's on my day off.

if necessary i will do so, but i thought this would be a nice way to avoid it, although i do realise that it will probably take more time but at least i dont have to deal with all the tourists lol

so does the method i posted above look like it will work?

 

[gregrocker]

It sounds like a lot of working around, but should be fun.

Let me know how it works.

How do you think the Recov Partition will reimage the full HD while the WINRe placed on Advanced Boot Menu (F8) will not without rebooting DVD/CD? Does it load into memory?

 

[severedsolo]

yes, effectively, when you boot into the Recovery Partition, it acts exactly as if you had put the DVD in. so all the necessary files will load into memory including the WinRE as far as windows is concerned, the Recov Partition is the DVD. i have reimaged a couple of times like this, and not had any problems