Upgaded to Win7 - do i have to keep my XP system/disks

[autolycus]

I seem to have upgraded sucessfully - a clean install over my 32 bit XP SP3 using Windows & Professional x64 Upgrade disk.

I back up the system regularly using macrium reflect, so i should be OK in the case of a serious problem.

However, if i had to do a clean install after some unforseen catastrophe, how would i go about it? I mean would i do better to keep my old XP on its old SSD (i cloned it before the upgrade) or if not, would i have to keep the XP system disks so i could clean install that first before i used the Upgrade disk? Either way it seems a bit of a pain, but i can see no way around it. Can anyone here, please?

 

[AddRAM]

You would just do another clean install with your upgrade disc. You don`t have to have XP installed.

Did you actually do a clean install ? Did you boot from the disc or were you in XP ?

 

[whs]

With an upgrade W7 you may have to go back to XP in case a reinstall is required. I would keep everything of XP that is the most convenient for that case.

But you can also do a clean install with the upgrade disc.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html

 

[Berton]

Usually Yes. The EULA specifies that. The need is for proving ownership of a previous version when installing or needing to reinstall.

The Microsoft Software License Terms contain information about the terms and conditions of using Microsoft software. The license terms differ depending on the edition of Windows 7.
To find out which edition of Windows 7 is running on your computer

• Click the Start button
  
  , right-click Computer, and then click Properties.
  The edition of Windows 7 you are running is displayed under Windows edition near the top of the window.

To read the license terms

1. Click the Start button
   
   , and then, in the Start menu, click Computer.
2. Under Hard Disk Drives, double-click the drive where Windows is installed. This is often the drive labeled (C.
3. Double-click the Windows folder, double-click the System32 folder, double-click the en-US folder, double-click the Licenses folder, and then double-click the _Default folder.
4. Double-click the folder that corresponds to the edition of Windows 7 that's installed on your computer, and then double-click license.
   The license will open in a new window.

This is the relevant item in the license:
[FONT=&quot]"15. UPGRADES. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from."[/FONT]
This was always stressed at the Microsoft seminars I attended, save the qualifying version disc and Product Key.

 

[AddRAM]

Question, I thought the only way to upgrade from XP was to do a clean install, yes ?

 

[Berton]

Yes, has to be a clean install. But the upgrade offered is more for pricing, cheaper for those already running a version of Windows which is why one needs to keep the evidence needed.

 

[autolycus]

Thanks for the replies. I guess i can ditch my XP installation but i'd better not flog my XP disk.

Just to comment on the last post, according to the tutorial by brink, either a clean or custom install is possible. I booted from the upgrade disk and used the custom install option and it worked fine.

 

[NoelDP]

Doing it that way almost certainly means that you're not going to be able to activate , since the activation 'excape' won't have been triggered as it would have been by starting from inside XP.
Please check that the system is activated, because if not, you'll have to use one of the methods in Brink's Tutorial to get it activated - and that's best done before installing updates. (e.g. the double-install method would mean installing updates and drivers a second time!)

 

[RolandJS]

Save everything, ditch nothing. Remember one of many Murphy's Laws: if it was discarded, it now is needed

 

[autolycus]

Doing it that way almost certainly means that you're not going to be able to activate , since the activation 'excape' won't have been triggered as it would have been by starting from inside XP.
Please check that the system is activated, because if not, you'll have to use one of the methods in Brink's Tutorial to get it activated - and that's best done before installing updates. (e.g. the double-install method would mean installing updates and drivers a second time!)

Now i'm confused. The current win7 installation activated smoothly, but you seem to be saying that i won't be able to activate it if i need to reinstall it at some stage without having winXP installed first. This seems 100% at odds with all the other advice (as does RolandJS's) - unless i'm misunderstanding you?

 

[NoelDP]

Let's have a look at your MGADiag report, just in case.

we need to see a full copy of the report produced by the MGADiag tool
(download and save to desktop - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 )
Once saved, run the tool.
Click on the Continue button, which will produce the report.
To copy the report to your response, click on the Copy button in the tool (ignore any error messages at this point), and then paste (using either r-click/Paste, or Ctrl+V ) into your response.


Please also state the Version and Edition of Windows quoted on your COA sticker (if you have one) on the case of your machine (or inside the battery compartment), but do NOT quote the Key on the sticker!
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Hardware.aspx

 

[autolycus]

Hi - assuming we are just tallking about the Win7 installation, the COA sticker on the side of the DVD case reads WIN PRO 7 ENGLISH ROW VUP DVD; the MGADiag report reads:

Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data-->

Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-RW2F6-7X2G3-39386
Windows Product Key Hash: nw4uC7satchth7k3W5/D1bt55Ak=
Windows Product ID: 00371-154-8009837-85563
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
ID: {D9DC7FA2-C268-45EE-B111-74A9EC677230}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
Architecture: 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.150202-1526
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/A

Vista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

OGA Data-->
Office Status: 114 Blocked VLK 2
Microsoft Office XP Professional with FrontPage - 114 Blocked VLK 2
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

File Scan Data-->

Other data-->
Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{D9DC7FA2-C268-45EE-B111-74A9EC677230}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-39386</PKey><PID>00371-154-8009837-85563</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-393690300-86648224-1846557622</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>System manufacturer</Manufacturer><Model>System Product Name</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Phoenix Technologies, LTD</Manufacturer><Version>ASUS P5N32-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 1903</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20091117000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>74F93407018400FA</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>114</Result><Products><Product GUID="{90280409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}"><LegitResult>114</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office XP Professional with FrontPage</Name><Ver>10</Ver><Val>39476F84C4B4004</Val><Hash>4iCnywwNW1w4s9ukTIwGMGxyGic=</Hash><Pid>54185-640-0000025-17116</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product></Products><Applications><App Id="15" Version="10" Result="114"/><App Id="16" Version="10" Result="114"/><App Id="17" Version="10" Result="114"/><App Id="18" Version="10" Result="114"/><App Id="1A" Version="10" Result="114"/><App Id="1B" Version="10" Result="114"/></Applications></Office></Software></GenuineResults>

Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
Extended PID: 00371-00170-154-800983-01-2057-7601.0000-0882015
Installation ID: 000343746230532823092561978105609162915265616252249166
Processor Certificate URL: SpcService Web Service
Machine Certificate URL: RacService Web Service
Use License URL: UseLicenseService Web Service
Product Key Certificate URL: PkcService Web Service
Partial Product Key: 39386
License Status: Licensed
Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
Trusted time: 15/04/2015 12:55:51

Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: 0x00000000
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: 3:29:2015 18:42
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEAAgABAAEAAQACAAAAAgABAAEAonboWzIokgCsO3pgirjczWI9vmtCYPoezDE=

OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/A

OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC Nvidia ASUSACPI
FACP Nvidia ASUSACPI
HPET Nvidia ASUSACPI
MCFG Nvidia ASUSACPI
SSDT Nvidia ASUSACPI

In case it's relevant to the overall question this is the 64 bit Win7 upgrade of an XP 32 bit system.

 

[NoelDP]

Thanks for the detail! (it'll help me elsewhere)
That does look fine - I'd just been concerned because most Upgrades will cause problems after booting from the DVD, as far as activation is involved.
Yours looks OK, but in 'legal' terms, you are required to keep your original XP disk and paperwork handy to prove your entitlement to the upgrade should you be audited (yeah - read the small print!). There is VERY little chance of that ever happening, but...

(Oh - by the way, your Office installation is counterfeit!)

 

[autolycus]

Whoops!

Anyway, thanks for the reassurance. I doubt the XP disk would fetch a huge amount so i'll probably hang on to it anyway. But at least i won't have to install it again.