Upgrading CPU - Help please!

[nbkp]

Hi there,

ATM I have a very old and out-dated proccessor. It is a AMD Athlon 3800+ single core. I have been thinking on upgrading but no too sure what to get.

My mobo specs are here: Motherboard Specifications, M2N68-LA (Narra) Compaq Presario SR5019UK Desktop PC - HP technical support (Germany - English)

It says upto a 5600 dual core, but in brackets it had 89w twp. So... Could I get a 6000+ that only requires 89w?

More nooby questions! ;D

Not sure about updating BIOS, as the website says nothing about it supporting W7, and the changelog says nothing about supporting newer CPU's.

One more

Can someone reccommend me a CPU cooler for less than £30 or $50? I won't be doing too much overclocking, but my stock coooler is crap.

 

[nbkp]

Bumping.. Help please!

 

[Fumz]

Hi there,

ATM I have a very old and out-dated proccessor. It is a AMD Athlon 3800+ single core. I have been thinking on upgrading but no too sure what to get.

My mobo specs are here: Motherboard Specifications, M2N68-LA (Narra) Compaq Presario SR5019UK Desktop PC - HP technical support (Germany - English)

It says upto a 5600 dual core, but in brackets it had 89w twp. So... Could I get a 6000+ that only requires 89w?

More nooby questions! ;D

Not sure about updating BIOS, as the website says nothing about it supporting W7, and the changelog says nothing about supporting newer CPU's.

One more

Can someone reccommend me a CPU cooler for less than £30 or $50? I won't be doing too much overclocking, but my stock coooler is crap.

It's not that you'll be doing much overclocking, it's that you won't be doing any overclocking. HP seems pretty strict about adhering to 89TW, so if you attempt to go above that, which is what's going to happen if you overclock, bad things will no doubt happen.

AMD 6000+ has a thermal power rating of 125 watts, so that's out of the question.

 

[nbkp]

Hi there,

ATM I have a very old and out-dated proccessor. It is a AMD Athlon 3800+ single core. I have been thinking on upgrading but no too sure what to get.

My mobo specs are here: Motherboard Specifications, M2N68-LA (Narra) Compaq Presario SR5019UK Desktop PC - HP technical support (Germany - English)

It says upto a 5600 dual core, but in brackets it had 89w twp. So... Could I get a 6000+ that only requires 89w?

More nooby questions! ;D

Not sure about updating BIOS, as the website says nothing about it supporting W7, and the changelog says nothing about supporting newer CPU's.

One more

Can someone reccommend me a CPU cooler for less than £30 or $50? I won't be doing too much overclocking, but my stock coooler is crap.

It's not that you'll be doing much overclocking, it's that you won't be doing any overclocking. HP seems pretty strict about adhering to 89TW, so if you attempt to go above that, which is what's going to happen if you overclock, bad things will no doubt happen.

AMD 6000+ has a thermal power rating of 125 watts, so that's out of the question.

I'm not bothered if I can't do any overcolcking.

There is a model that is only 89w

 

[Pikey]

That's a board made by ASUS .. here's a link to the ASUS support forums that might help ..

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum-

I recently did a similar upgrade , different mobo though .. ASUS M2NE SLI and the 6000+ (89W) works very well with it .. Win 7 found it , Adjusted 'something' , asked me to re-boot and that was that .. no re-install needed which was quite a nice surprise!

Here's the chip details .. AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ - ADV6000IAA5DO (ADV6000DOBOX) ..

I bought a new cooler too which seems to do the business .. Arctic Cooling

 

[bobkn]

I have no idea whether that system can support newer CPUs. Asus has BIOS updates available for various M2N68 motherboards, but the -LA is an OEM product, and Asus does not support it. You may have to hunt around the Web to see if anyone has had success; like most appliance PC makers, HP may not provide information about configurations they don't sell. (That's one reason I bought my first - and last - appliance PC in 1995.)

As for coolers, I recently saw a review:

Thermaltake Contac29 Cooler Review | KitGuru

It doesn't outperform an $80 cooler, but it costs $30:

Newegg.com - Thermaltake Contac 29 120mm CPU Cooler

If it fits in your PC case, it looks like a bargain.

 

[nbkp]

Thanks for all the repls!

I think I might as well just geta 5600, as the 6000 isn't too much better, and better safe than sorry.

I just have a few more questions still.

All of the CPU fans I can find have 4 pins, whilst my mobo has only 3. But then I saw this (Motherboard (CPU) 3 Pin Fan Connector Connector Pinout - AllPinouts). Are them diagrams what they appear to be? xD

 

[Solarstarshines]

I have a 4 pin motherboard cpu fan and i infact questioned that too with the heatsink i purchased it said made for my board and the diagram did show 4 pin connect but hell i tryed it with the three left one open and still worked i do monitor it with a flashlight since i have a see through case just to make sure it is running i have 2 fans on my heat sink even though i need one but it keeps me running very cool coolermaste dual fan heatsink dual coper pipes

 

[Wishmaster]

The 5600+ is a good CPU. It will still be a significant upgrade from your current one

 

[stormy13]

List of 89W AM2 CPU's,

AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom™, AMD Athlon™ FX, AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon™, and AMD Sempron™ Processor

and if you do get one don't be surprised if it doesn't work. HP likes to lock the bios to whatever CPU the board shipped with. If it doesn't work and you don't have the latest bios for your computer from HP (it may be an Asus motherboard, but the Asus bios will not work on it), it may allow the new CPU to work.

They would much rather sell you a new computer than allow a simple CPU upgrade that the board can support.

 

[nbkp]

Thanks for the help people!

I recently ordered a 5600+ and may order an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 pro.

stormy13@ You've made me panick now xD. I found the BIOS update, but it doesn't say anything about W7 compatibility.

 

[stormy13]

Not trying to panic you, more like forewarn. There have been a couple of others here that tries the same thing with a HP/Compaq/Dell/etc, and like yours lists the range of CPU's that that model of computer supported and/or came with. Here is one of them,

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/86882-need-processor-installation-advice-please.html

So like I said don't be surprised if it doesn't work despite the fact that by all rights it should. HP does some strange things with their bioses, and will go so far as to lock out the faster CPU for no other reason than because they can.

 

[nbkp]

Not trying to panic you, more like forewarn. There have been a couple of others here that tries the same thing with a HP/Compaq/Dell/etc, and like yours lists the range of CPU's that that model of computer supported and/or came with. Here is one of them,

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/86882-need-processor-installation-advice-please.html

So like I said don't be surprised if it doesn't work despite the fact that by all rights it should. HP does some strange things with their bioses, and will go so far as to lock out the faster CPU for no other reason than because they can.

On the last post, the guy said he did a live chat with someone from HP, and he/she said that the CPU wasn't supported by the mobo.

But I get your point

One more; would it be ok to download and install a BIOS update that is compatible with Vista but says NOTHING about W7?

 

[stormy13]

That comment from the HP live chat was pure CYA on his part. There is nothing special about the black edition CPU's from AMD, the only difference between them and the non BE ones is the BE has an unlocked multiplier.

As for the bios, I wouldn't worry about that. If it is OK for Vista it will be OK for 7.

 

[Krispy1]

honestly ur better off spending a bit more and getting a new motherboard

i have one of these Newegg.ca - ASRock K10N78M-PRO AM3/AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

amazing price for something that will support the new phenom II x6 out of the box. also it supports ddr2 533mhz-1066 meaning u will be able to use your existing ram.

 

[kpo6969]

Not trying to panic you, more like forewarn. There have been a couple of others here that tries the same thing with a HP/Compaq/Dell/etc, and like yours lists the range of CPU's that that model of computer supported and/or came with. Here is one of them,

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/86882-need-processor-installation-advice-please.html

So like I said don't be surprised if it doesn't work despite the fact that by all rights it should. HP does some strange things with their bioses, and will go so far as to lock out the faster CPU for no other reason than because they can.

+1
I had a Dell E521 that listed up to a 5600 but I found an 89w 6000 (when they 1st came out), took 6 months to find it. Bios wouldn't accept it and Dell had dumped amd by that time so I was out of luck.

 

[nbkp]

honestly ur better off spending a bit more and getting a new motherboard

i have one of these Newegg.ca - ASRock K10N78M-PRO AM3/AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8200 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

amazing price for something that will support the new phenom II x6 out of the box. also it supports ddr2 533mhz-1066 meaning u will be able to use your existing ram.

That's a hard job for a 13 year old :/

 

[Tweek]

Can someone reccommend me a CPU cooler for less than £30 or $50? I won't be doing too much overclocking, but my stock coooler is crap.

iXtrema Silenx 12CM, Hands down, None other.... Period... It's Phenomenal!