Validating Windows 7

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Hello,

I'm new on here. I run a W10 machine so I've been frequenting TenForums for a good while where I've had some great help. However I do have a situation which involves W7 and I'm wondering if anyone could possibly help...

Going through a large collection of old discs a few weeks ago I came across a Windows 7 disc – with the key. Whilst this was not an original MS disc I assumed someone had (legitimately?) copied it just in case their original MS disc got lost or damaged. I’ve no recollection of where it came from. At a previous place of work all staff members were entitled to a copy of the current MS OS for use on their office/lab pc's. I seem to remember they were also allowed a second copy for installing on a home machine (possibly for a nominal sum) as lots of staff members worked at home, writing reports etc etc. I’d sort of assumed that this is where the W7 disc originated from and never given it any more thought. I recently went on one of the MS sites to try and find out more about the OS/key and got the following information:

W7 Home Premium SP1 COEM GGK which doesn’t mean much to me…

Now my daughter has an old HP laptop with Vista installed and so I installed the W7 on the laptop merely as an exercise really to see if it would run. I duly pasted the key when asked and the software activated without any problems.

Seeing that updating the laptop had gone so well I thought I'd try it with an old Dell Dimension running XP which I have here which is hardly ever used – I just can’t get myself to bin it. I created a dual boot, keeping the old XP and installed W7 on the second partition and everything appeared to go well. However when I pasted the key to activate W7 it was refused with the error – 0xC004C008 – ‘The product Key you typed cannot be used to activate Windows on this computer’. I re-installed W7 a second time but the end result is the same – it won’t validate. Is this because it's was previously validated when I installed it on the laptop? I appreciate that it should not be possible to run multiple copies of the software but I seem to remember that this 'was' possible with the software we got at work, though presumably it should only have been used on two machines.

Now whether I can keep W7 on the old Dell or not is pretty irrelevant – it would be nice if I could – but I’m curious as to why it installed and activated on the laptop without any problems but refused to activate on the Dell. Incidentally W7 appears to run perfectly on the Dell, lots of updates were downloaded and installed, including drivers. I have an ‘elderly’ monitor with a square screen so I needed to play around with the screen res but other than that the Dell is happy with W7, a bit slow maybe…

As an aside. On the screen where I validate the software it gives a Product ID. Now I assumed this referred to the actual software but it’s different on the Dell to the laptop, and when I re-installed it’s different again. A simple reason I’m sure but it just goes to confirm that my computer knowledge is pretty basic!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DELL Optiplex 5050
OS
Windows 10 1909 64 bit

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Toshiba satellite C650D
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    CPU
    AMD V120
    Memory
    4GB
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Antivirus
    MSE
    Browser
    IE11, Edge, Firefox
    Other Info
    I also have W7 Pro on my System Two, and several W7 Hyper-V VMs. My other machines run Windows 10/11. Their specs are in my Ten Forums & Eleven Forum profiles.
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Thinkpad T430
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    CPU
    Intel i5-3320M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
    Other Info
    Antivirus: MSE
Thanks Bree…

I’d already visited one of those links before but found the information rather confusing.

From reading the links I assumed that the W7 disc was a system builder disc and the fact that it installed and activated on the old HP Vista laptop without any problems would seem to confirm that. What I couldn't understand was why it couldn't be activated on the old Dell XP machine. I upgraded to a new Dell W10 machine some time ago so it's all pretty irrelevant, I was merely curious - and intrigued why the OS activated on one machine and not on the other…

Thanks again for your input.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DELL Optiplex 5050
OS
Windows 10 1909 64 bit
It is possible that that disk has some high-level security that makes it not able to be installed twice.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett-Packard Presario C700 Notebook PC F.08
OS
Windows 7 Home 32 bit
CPU
1.47 gigahertz Intel Pentium Dual T2310
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 30D9 83.19
Memory
2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated
Sound Card
Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Built-in
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
WDC WD3200BEKT-00PVMT0 [Hard drive] (320.07 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WX11AC050066, rev 01.01A01, SMART Status: Healthy
Internet Speed
15mbps
Antivirus
Windows defender
Browser
Google chrome
It is possible that that disk has some high-level security that makes it not able to be installed twice.
Excellent question! In the old days, many but not all 5.25" or 3.5" Installs wrote back onto said Floppy during the allowed number of Installs, once allowed reached, no more installs. If we're talking about DVDs, the only thing I can think of: somehow the Install right then, or eventually, "called home" and registered the install to said computer.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
...the only thing I can think of: somehow the Install right then, or eventually, "called home" and registered the install to said computer...
that being said I would say that DVD is corrupt and useless. (sorry)
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett-Packard Presario C700 Notebook PC F.08
OS
Windows 7 Home 32 bit
CPU
1.47 gigahertz Intel Pentium Dual T2310
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 30D9 83.19
Memory
2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated
Sound Card
Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Built-in
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
WDC WD3200BEKT-00PVMT0 [Hard drive] (320.07 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WX11AC050066, rev 01.01A01, SMART Status: Healthy
Internet Speed
15mbps
Antivirus
Windows defender
Browser
Google chrome
Hi

The code is reporting allready in use, therefor you cannot use it on a second machine.

As to what type of licence MS deems it as, run the Mgadiag tool from here
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=56062

seventh line down
Windows Product ID Type: X
5 = retail and therefor transferable

Roy
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
medionl/Aspire 6930G/acer x55a
OS
W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
CPU
E5300 dual core
Motherboard
medion MS7366
Memory
3gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 7100 Nforce 630i
Monitor(s) Displays
avixc
Internet Speed
n (isp resticted to 72)
Antivirus
mse/pands
Browser
palemoon
Other Info
Belkin Fd7050 n USB using Railink RT2870 drivers, more upto date
The one at work installs on multiple computers because it has a VLK--Volume License Key, made just for that purpose.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
It's not useless. If you ever have to reinstall Win7 on the laptop, the DVD is perfectly good, with the original product key.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP p6-2020t
OS
Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU
G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
25" HPLV2311
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1200
Hard Drives
1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Case
HP
Cooling
PSU
Antivirus
Glasswire
Browser
Waterfox; Firefox; Chrome for work
Other Info
Firewall--Glasswire
Similar specs in Gateway DX4200
Verizon FIOS Wired network

1 other Win7 computer-- has SSD
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