Solved Video crash after startup

Pipepro

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I built my PC a couple months ago. I bought a barebones kit so I have a new MB (Asus A55BM-E) , Processor (X64 Family AMD A4-6300 APU), and 4GB Kingston DDR3 memory. I used my last OS Windows 7 Pro 32 bit, and tried to use an older Radeon 4670 Video card. I was getting a BSOD (Driver issue) while using that card, so I bought a new Radeon R7 200 series card.
PC ran fine for a few weeks then I have a problem after startup in the morning Video pixelates and I have to power down with power button. Always takes 2 attempts to start, to get to Start windows normally screen. Then the rest of the day no matter how many times I power off and power back on it works normally.
When this problem started I of course updated all my drivers, flashed the bios, and updated everything. While in the Device Manager I notice a warning icon for an unknown device. I don't have anything except a slave HD plugged into the MB. Properties tell me driver is not installed and an ID of
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_780B&SUBSYS_85271043&REV_14
I could not find a driver for this unknown device and I purchased driver tuner and they could not find a driver for this.
I then disconnected my cable to the video card and tried to use the onboard radeon graphics, doesn't work. I did not take new video card out before trying onboard, that could be the issue there. I went into my bios and could not find where to designate video card over onboard.
My thoughts are that there is a bad Video driver somewhere and I don't know how to root it out. Also this unknown device has me scratching my head.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Looks like a Chipset Driver is needed ... What is the Model Number of your Motherboard ?....
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
W530-3630QM1
OS
windows 7 home 64bit
CPU
INTEL-CORE I7
Memory
16GB
Hard Drives
750GB
Browser
Chrome
Asus A55BM-E
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Yessir the chipset application repaired the Unknown Device, now I won't know till tomorrow if the video crash works. Thank You I will report tomorrow.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Most welcome :)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
W530-3630QM1
OS
windows 7 home 64bit
CPU
INTEL-CORE I7
Memory
16GB
Hard Drives
750GB
Browser
Chrome
Are you sure your power supply is properly sized? And is the PSUs of good quality, and 80 PLUS certified to ensure maximum efficiency across the FULL spectrum of expected loads?

Note the GPU is often the most power hungry devices in our system - often way more hungry than the CPUs.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
BrightWorks Systems B4
OS
Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-860 Quad
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Memory
Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD HE 1Tb
PSU
Corsair TX-750W
Case
Ultra M998
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
MS Wireless Comfort 5000
Mouse
MS Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Cable and pretty darn fast
Itaregid, the power supply came with the bundle and seems adequate.
I still have the video pixilation problem. I don't understand how after it happens the first time in the morning that I probably stop and start PC 3 more times during the day without the problem. This may sound funny but this problem started after a Adobe Flash update.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Itaregid, the power supply came with the bundle and seems adequate.
Actually, that gives me even more concern. It is not uncommon for some retailers to "toss in" any old PSU to make the sale and that is a mistake. The PSU is arguably the most critical component your computer. Without good, clean, and stable power, EVERYTHING else subject to undue stress. What's more is a PSU can "seem" adequate but not be. Having an "adequate" wattage "rating" does NOT ensure all 3 voltages, and the necessary current, especially on the critical 12V rail (essential for stable graphics processing, and more) is adequate, or stable, or clean (no excessive unwanted AC anomalies like ripple and other anomalies that affect computer stability).

A power on light, or fans spinning does NOT indicate the PSU is working properly.

Note the only way to verify a PSU is good is to have it professionally tested, or swap in a known good one. Also note that a failing or faulty PSU does not always result in the computer not working, but instead OFTEN results in peculiar behaviors, like unexpected shutdowns, scrambled/pixelated graphics, freezes, failures to boot, BSODs, and sudden reboots. Most shops will test a PSU for a nominal fee, but swapping in another is easier, IMO.

Problems first thing in the morning are often heat related. Only instead of shutting down when heated up, a device starts working correctly after warming up. This may be due to a microfracture or some other gap that closes and then make electrical contact as the matter expands during warming.

When troubleshooting electronics, you always should start at the wall. Is it plugged in? Turned on? Am I supplying good power? What is the brand and size of the PSU?

This may sound funny but this problem started after a Adobe Flash update.
Then consider running the Adobe FlashPlayer Uninstaller to rid the system of Flash and see what happens. Then you can install the latest version from here.

I built my PC a couple months ago.
Then it should still be under warranty.

I used my last OS Windows 7 Pro 32 bit
As a side note, you may need to look at your EULA or installation disk. Please note a common misunderstanding among many users is they assume they can use their old Windows license (or installation disk) on a new computer, or with their upgraded motherboard. The fact is the vast majority of Windows licenses are NOT legally transferable. Only the "boxed" full Retail license can be transferred to a new computer (or upgraded motherboard). It is illegal to use an OEM/System Builders license that came with or was purchased for one computer on another computer. A disk “branded” with a computer maker’s brand name, or is labeled with “OEM", "OEM/System Builder”, “Upgrade”, “Academic Edition”, or "For Distribution with a new PC only", is not transferable to a new PC (or upgraded motherboard) under any circumstances. These OEM licenses are inextricably tied to the "original equipment". And most importantly, as users, we agreed to the terms of the end-user licensing agreement (EULA) when we decided to continue to use the software on the original computer. And that makes it legally binding.

With that in mind, if you need to buy a new license I recommend 64-bit Windows 7 or Windows 8 (to take advantage of the full 4Gb of RAM, and to support more RAM in the future. Alternatively, you can use one of the many free Linux alternatives.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
BrightWorks Systems B4
OS
Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-860 Quad
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Memory
Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD HE 1Tb
PSU
Corsair TX-750W
Case
Ultra M998
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
MS Wireless Comfort 5000
Mouse
MS Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Cable and pretty darn fast
Due to the problem only happening minutes into full boot, I next will try this evening uninstalling flash player, then boot tomorrow morning and go from there, reinstalling after I give the error enough time to sort out the problem, I also thought about looking at TCP View (right after boot) to see if anything pops up out of the ordinary and the problem happens again.
Everytime in the past I have questioned what old video drivers to delete before adding OEM drivers for a video card, possibility the older 4670 card drivers could be a culprit here. Thank You for your time so far and I will report back.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Well it wasn't the flash player. What would be the best freeware display driver cleaner? Itaregid, I am stuck with the components I have because the only warranty would be for me to send them back to the vendor as not working ie Power supply (450watt) Mobo (Asus) Video card (Radeon) processor (AMD).
With Flash Player uninstalled it did work longer this morning before it pixelated. But the crazy thing is why doesn't it do it the rest of the day?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Do you know the brand name and model of the PSU. 450W is fine, if a quality supply.

But the crazy thing is why doesn't it do it the rest of the day?
I provided one possible reason,
Itaregid said:
Problems first thing in the morning are often heat related. Only instead of shutting down when heated up, a device starts working correctly after warming up. This may be due to a microfracture or some other gap that closes and then make electrical contact as the matter expands during warming.
In other words, it has nothing to do with "time" but rather cooler ambient (room) temps in the morning combined with the fact the hardware has cooled down completely too.

Have you tried the normal way to uninstall your video drivers? Either through Control Panel (if listed) or Device Manager, uninstall, then exit Windows and shutdown the computer. Then unplug the computer from the wall for about 10 - 15 seconds (or, if you power supply has one, set the master power switch on the back of the PSU to off), the power back and reload drivers.

If that does not work, you can try RevoUninstaller.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
BrightWorks Systems B4
OS
Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-860 Quad
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Memory
Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD HE 1Tb
PSU
Corsair TX-750W
Case
Ultra M998
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
MS Wireless Comfort 5000
Mouse
MS Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Cable and pretty darn fast
Video Card new drivers worked so far
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made
OS
Windows 7
CPU
AMD Phenom II x3 720 2.80Ghz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4670
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
Ultra
Good news!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
BrightWorks Systems B4
OS
Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-860 Quad
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Memory
Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD HE 1Tb
PSU
Corsair TX-750W
Case
Ultra M998
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
MS Wireless Comfort 5000
Mouse
MS Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Cable and pretty darn fast
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