W7 Network map tree with "?" between laptop and wireless router

#14a:

So, out of the blue, the map isn't drawn correctly. Next time you see it, before refreshing or disconnecting, see if you still actually have a valid connection by loading a web page or something.

Is your machine set up to automatically connect to only one network (your own)?

Also verify against your ipconfig/all output.
 

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Update #16 & #17

Update #16
INACTIVITY: 8 hours
INTERNET ON WAKE UP: connected
NETWORK MAP: no issue


Update #17
INACTIVITY: 8 hours
INTERNET ON WAKE UP: connected
NETWORK MAP: no issue
 

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Sorry for not keeping up w/ updates. To be honest I am not actually sure how many I missed. Suffice it to say, I have not had any issues to report. So um, yeah. I'm losing interest, I do that easily. A.A.D.D. -> Almost Attention Deficit Disorder
I am happy to answer any questions, if anyone has any, as to my laptop's performance during the update hiatus.
 

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So, compiling the data you've gathered, essentially you got the "?" only one time out of all those checks after resetting the power saver feature of the NIC? And that was under a slightly different circumstance...
 

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So, compiling the data you've gathered, essentially you got the "?" only one time out of all those checks after resetting the power saver feature of the NIC? And that was under a slightly different circumstance...

yuppers.
 

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Anyone have any problem with my marking this thread solved?:sarc:
 

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Well, it's up to you. Are you satisfied with the results you've observed?

Did you ever try reversing the change to see if you could make the "?" appear again?
 

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possible solution to question mark on network map

I just may have found the answer to this issue. While doing some research on this problem earlier, I came across a thread on the Cisco website which talks about configuration of network adapters. I have a small office set up with a six station network where each machine is connected into one central network switch and then to a gateway. I have been having a problem with the damned "? on the map" issue for months now and I've seen every kind of configuration you can imagine... sometimes some machines will show up, then other times they won't show up, sometimes a connection is solid, sometimes it's broken by the ? Usually, the machines that are not in the network map will show up at the bottom of the window where it says that they "cannot be placed into the map" even though they are obviously recognized on the network. Now to the fix that has worked for me...

keep in mind i am describing the fix as it applies to a "Local Area Connection" using a Realtek PCIe Family Controller. I am only a novice at this stuff and this is my own opinion. I do not accept any liability for changes that you make in your system. I do think that you will find similar control buttons in a "Wireless Network Connection" as well, as the steps I will describe here all look pretty similar to ones i've seen on other types of network adapters previously.

In the settings of your network adapter ( network and sharing Center> Change adapter settings>double click the active connection>click properties>click configure button>from the tabs along the top of the window select the 2nd one named "advanced">go down to the property named "Priority and VLAN". The usual default setting is to show "Priority and VLAN" as enabled. Change this setting to "Priority enabled" (ie essentially, the VLAN will become disabled.) Select "OK" and then find your way back out to the top. I have since changed all of my machines to this setting and it instantly corrected the network mapping problem and no more question marks since!

Now for the theory behind this explanation: With this setting (VLAN) disabled, all machines have equal status with the network switch (or your router) and there is no control over load balancing across the network. It's kindof like the wild west, in that its every man for himself. Every computer piles out whatever data it has to send, and the router or switch deals with it as it comes. The VLAN setting, meaning "virtual LAN," allows the system to automatically create virtual sub-networks based on historical patterns of information flow among the devices on your network. This helps to minimize bottlenecks from within the network. While this is important on a large network with many busy machines, on a small office or home network it really is unnecessary, as you're very unlikely to have large data flows on multiple machines simultaneously. This also helps to explain why the network map problem seems to change over time, as many people have commented that the map changes, and looks right sometimes and wrong at others. This suggests to me that they are seeing examples of the virtual LAN function at work, changing the configurations and pathways depending upon activity on the network...

I hope that this solution works as well for you as it did for me!
 

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Welcome to the forum cutedrdave!

You've certainly provided some interesting info. I'm going to have to remember this next time I run across a system that displays the infamous "?" in the map.
 

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I have the problem also. The one with the ? appears only occasionally, sometimes when I start from hibernate in the morning and sometimes when I continue from just leaving it on while I go out.

The only way for the ? to go away is to click on the network icon > disconnect from the network > then reconnect again. Nothing else works. Any idea where this ? comes from ?
 
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sorry, guys, I take it back!!!

I came into the office today and found the network maps were up to their old tricks again! Question mark appearing between machine and switch, and some machines appearing at the bottom of the window with the caption "the following discovered device cannot be placed on the map".

back to the drawing board! :cry:

I still have the theory that somewhere in network land, there is some kind of "data traffic cop" that is manipulating data flow and causing these discrepancies...

Windows does love to keep us guessing!
 

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sorry, guys, I take it back!!!

Quite alright. It happens.

I still have the theory that somewhere in network land, there is some kind of "data traffic cop" that is manipulating data flow and causing these discrepancies...

Maybe so, but why is it that whenever the "?" appears, it's always between the machine being used to view the map and the router/device it's connected to? Seems like, if any "?" was in the map, it would be associated with other machines on the network. Wouldn't that make more sense?
 

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Hi All,
Thanks for the Sevenforums. I have been trying to get my son's laptop to use my printer for about a week.
I have followed the discussion with interest. I have resolved the Homegroup issue, I think. However I am also getting the "?" in the network map. If it doesn't affect the functionality, I will learn to live with it. Thanks again for all the helpful suggestions.
I am unable to tell which one fixed my connectivity / HomeGroup issue, but it looks OK at present
 

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How to show full Win 7 network map without big question mark

As to precisely why Win 7 shows an incomplete network map with a big question mark I think, but do not know for certain (someone with greater expertise may tell us all why) when clicking on "see full map" in "View your basic network information and set up connections" my best guess is that Win 7 has loaded incompletely. What I do know for sure is that restarting Win 7 fixes the issue and shows the complete map without the question mark. This must be done each time after each boot up, from the system in Hibernate, which, I think is the likely cause, since my copy of Win 7 Home Premium clearly has the ability to do so after reboot. I'd be curious to see any additional related information that enables us to zero in on the precise underlying cause like whether booting up from other states of Sleep, Hybrid Sleep, or from scratch. Hope this helps.
 

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HA, ancient topic but then I've only just gotten around to the joys of W7.
I've had some success in overcoming the minor irritation of the question mark on the network map by changing my static IP address from the low 200s to the low 100s.
Hope this helps somebody.
 

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