What don't you like about Windows 7?

[CrazyAssCanuck]

greetings from New York

welcome aboard Canuck. btw, were you refering to the 'common tasks' menu?

if thats the one on the right pane that use to have the folder tree but now has 'favourites', 'libraries', and so on... looks very useful, i just need to tweak it to my liking.

Cheers

 

[gzt7d8]

Let's get negative.

Ok this is as negative as I can get...I don't like the fact that they didn't give out free copies to ALL the testers of Windows 7. I feel that we've been discriminated.

Other than that....sorry nothing else to report other than October 22nd is a LONG way away.


gs

 

[Nosmo]

My only complaint is the way MS has implemented security.
I am the ADMIN and I expect to be able to open any file or folder.
Can I do that?
Not easily....
Why not?
If anyone reading this has gone through the complicated procedure to give the admin the permission and ownership of folder ( Example: "Documents and Settings" ) they will understand my frustration.

Also windows will not remember their size.

 

[ExNavy11]

I still take issue with UAC. I find it useless and un-beneficial.

I have yet to hear from anyone who said, "thank God that UAC popped up to ask me if I wanted that program to run....it was a virus"

I have however heard....sarcastically: " Gee thank God that UAC popped up to ask me if I wanted to run a program that I clicked on to open" :sarc:

I have had a virus or two. And I sure as hell didnt see the UAC pop up to ask me if I wanted xxxx to run. So someone please explain to me the function of the UAC.

I see NO purpose in the UAC popping up to ask me if I want to run a program that I clicked on.

 

[logicearth]

My only complaint is the way MS has implemented security.
I am the ADMIN and I expect to be able to open any file or folder.

You are not the Administrator, you are a user in the administrator group, but not the administrator. It is done this way so if an application is had a security hole it will not have full rights to destroy your computer.

If anyone reading this has gone through the complicated procedure to give the admin the permission and ownership of folder ( Example: "Documents and Settings" ) they will understand my frustration.

"Documents and Settings" ??? What?! Document and Settings folder is just there for backwards compatibility. Reading the contents of that folder is denied so when applications scan your system it won't pull duplicate files from it. (It is a junction after all.) The real location is the Users directory.

Learn of the new system before you complain about it...seriously.

 

[logicearth]

I see NO purpose in the UAC popping up to ask me if I want to run a program that I clicked on.

It allows you not to run as the all powerful Administrator user, so for example. Running IE in its protective sandbox which is only available when UAC is on, If there was an exploit some where in its code base, that exploit would be useless because IE has no super user privileges. But if UAC is off IE would run with the same privileges your user account has, meaning it will have all the power to do anything on your system. This of course goes for every application.

Now per your virus example...if you installed the virus yourself then, no it is not going to stop it because UAC is not an anti-virus. It just allows you to only run as administrator when you really need to, not all the time.

BTW, viruses rarely ever get on a computer that wasn't helped by being installed from the user, usually its riding piggy back on a legitimate application and executed under its context. By then the installing application was given super admin rights allowing the virus to do whatever.

 

[ExNavy11]

It allows you not to run as the all powerful Administrator user, so for example. Running IE in its protective sandbox which is only available when UAC is on, If there was an exploit some where in its code base, that exploit would be useless because IE has no super user privileges. But if UAC is off IE would run with the same privileges your user account has, meaning it will have all the power to do anything on your system. This of course goes for every application.

Now per your virus example...if you installed the virus yourself then, no it is not going to stop it because UAC is not an anti-virus. It just allows you to only run as administrator when you really need to, not all the time.

BTW, viruses rarely ever get on a computer that wasn't helped by being installed from the user, usually its riding piggy back on a legitimate application and executed under its context. By then the installing application was given super admin rights allowing the virus to do whatever.

Okay, thanks for soem explanation.

However, if I have the UAC on, and I mark a program under "properties" to run as Admin, I should not have to see the UAC pop up every time I open the program. It is beyond annoying.

 

[logicearth]

Okay, thanks for soem explanation.

However, if I have the UAC on, and I mark a program under "properties" to run as Admin, I should not have to see the UAC pop up every time I open the program. It is beyond annoying.

But you are not running as Administrator, so UAC has to make go about running that application under the Administrator's context. But in order to make sure that it was not done by a malicious program (i.e. an exploit in some application) it ask if the human user (aka. you) initiated this request.

 

[ExNavy11]

But you are not running as Administrator, so UAC has to make go about running that application under the Administrator's context. But in order to make sure that it was not done by a malicious program (i.e. an exploit in some application) it ask if the human user (aka. you) initiated this request.

That is what frustrates me. Why am I not Administrator? And why cant the computer realize that it is ME clicking on the program to open it?

 

[Antman]

That is what frustrates me. Why am I not Administrator? And why cant the computer realize that it is ME clicking on the program to open it?

This "feature" guarantees that malware cannot impersonate an officer. It forces a non-fraternization policy. As the CO, you can issue a general order to override, but your enlisted programs and OS will not have the protection afforded by the chain of command. Sailor.

 

[oidicle]

That is what frustrates me. Why am I not Administrator? And why cant the computer realize that it is ME clicking on the program to open it?

Dude if you really want to be the all mighty powerful Admin then you can just use the built-in administrator account, it's easier to to do that right after installing windows, instead of doing it much later, in order to avoid the hassle of moving all your files to the new account and also to avoid losing some application settings...

Just remember that with great power comes great responsibility. lol... you're more vulnerable this way.....

 

[ben07]

Hi oidicle, how does one use the built-in administrator account? I'm the only one using both my PC (both W7 Pro RTM x64) and during installation, I left the password "blank", am I not automatically the default Admin every time Windows starts? I was never prompted to select any pix or prompted to enter any password to start Windows.

Thanks.

P/s I wonder if this the reason why the following is not working for me:

From the Start/Search box, Run box or console window type: GPEDIT.MSC to bring up the Group Policy Object editor. Navigate to User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Attachment Manager. Here you will find a couple of policies related to this feature, but to disable it you'll want to ENABLE the policy called " "Do not preserve zone information in file attachments.

Maybe I need to invoke the "built-in administrator account" first? , but I'm the only admin here, lol...it's confusing.....

 

[logicearth]

The Administrator account is disabled by default, you have to first enable it in Computer Management > Local Users and Groups > Users > Administrator Properties. Would also be wise to give that account a password if you do enable it.

As to why a computer cannot determine if a human user activated an administrative application I could not tell you. But every OS I've seen asks the user so it seems like it cannot be reliably done. But you should be glad how Microsoft implemented UAC where you only need to click a button. While on *nix/Mac OS X you have to type in a password.

 

[digital2020]

windows 7 it's faster and easily like win xp .
it's very nice same win vista
i don't now about any problems for this windows

 

[Barman58]

The Administrator account is disabled by default, you have to first enable it in Computer Management > Local Users and Groups > Users > Administrator Properties. Would also be wise to give that account a password if you do enable it.

As to why a computer cannot determine if a human user activated an administrative application I could not tell you. But every OS I've seen asks the user so it seems like it cannot be reliably done. But you should be glad how Microsoft implemented UAC where you only need to click a button. While on *nix/Mac OS X you have to type in a password.

Basically the problem for an operating system to determine if a real user has pressed a key or not, is that although there is a physical action involved in pressing the key or mouse, by the time it gets to the OS it's just a digital flag - which may be spoofed by software.

he UAC goes a bit further than most systems in that the UAC prompt is totally isolated from the rest of the system and can only be activated by the user (that's the theory, that is at the moment still valid I believe )

 

[Steve Vogt]

Negative: As stated before, the compatibility of software.
Positive: The customization of the taskbar and the tray.

I would rate Windows 7 - 8/10.
I would rate Windows Vista - 5/10.
I would rate Windows XP - 9/10.

Once Windows 7 is synced with software vendors, I might have to say it is a 10/10 for me. I absolutely love it so far.

Cheers!

 

[zigzag3143]

Hey Steve

Welcome to seven forums. wait until general availabilty for win 7. you are going to love it

 

[ratePV]

Hey Steve

Welcome to seven forums. wait until general availabilty for win 7. you are going to love it

I just can't wait when all of my programs are windows 7 certified!

 

[oidicle]

Hi oidicle, how does one use the built-in administrator account? I'm the only one using both my PC (both W7 Pro RTM x64) and during installation, I left the password "blank", am I not automatically the default Admin every time Windows starts? I was never prompted to select any pix or prompted to enter any password to start Windows.

Thanks.

P/s I wonder if this the reason why the following is not working for me:

From the Start/Search box, Run box or console window type: GPEDIT.MSC to bring up the Group Policy Object editor. Navigate to User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Attachment Manager. Here you will find a couple of policies related to this feature, but to disable it you'll want to ENABLE the policy called " "Do not preserve zone information in file attachments.

Maybe I need to invoke the "built-in administrator account" first? , but I'm the only admin here, lol...it's confusing.....

Hey there Ben, here's a thread created by Brink, on the tutorials section: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/507-built-administrator-account-enable-disable.html

 

[ben07]

Hey there Ben, here's a thread created by Brink, on the tutorials section: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/507-built-administrator-account-enable-disable.html

Thanks for the link, oidicle, it's good reading and learning for newbie like myself who just hoop from XP SP3 x86 to Windows 7 X64

Best regards.